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Centaurus
6th Aug 2010, 03:46
Appreciate any references/details and ATSB Incident report number of a Cessna Conquest 2 that suffered severe airframe damage when it penetrated a CB between Gove (?) and Darwin somewhere around 2003? The aircraft went into an unusual attitude. The incident may have been written up in Flight Safety Australia.

betaman
6th Aug 2010, 05:48
Centaurus

The aircraft belonged to Anindilyakwa Air (I think that's correct spelling) VH-KUZ Cessna 441 Conquest enroute Groote Eylandt to Darwin.

I saw the aircraft the next morning it wasn't hard to miss there was a crowd about three deep having a gawk at the "new modifications" to the horizontal stabiliser, aft fuselage & remodelled nose. I think the young fellow flying it was very fortunate not to have pulled the wings & or tail off the aircraft, considering the Conquest's history with tail problems.:eek:

The other surprising thing was that they didn't write the aircraft off & managed to get it flying again.:eek:

Unfortunately it was before camera phones so I don't have any pics but I think there were some pics floating around on the net. I am sure there would be some ex Anindilyakwa boys & girls who would have more details.

PS I think it was around late 1999 or early 2000ish. Did a quick check of the ATSB data base nothing there!

PLovett
6th Aug 2010, 07:10
I remember the aircraft being flight tested in Darwin about September/October 2000 following the rebuild. I was told the incident was in the previous wet season, I think.

Capt Fathom
6th Aug 2010, 07:46
There were photos posted of the aftermath on pprune!

heated ice detector
6th Aug 2010, 08:10
The story Iwas told, w/x radar u/s fly into big Cu, half roll, A/h shows lots of brown, reef on control column, complete loop, ASI needle sticks past VNE, Rippled wings, missing elev horn, wrinkled rear fuselage, I saw it as it taxied past, lucky Lad, I think he works at NJS now

beaver_rotate
6th Aug 2010, 09:05
Photos please....... NJS intials?

betaman
6th Aug 2010, 09:22
A/h shows lots of brown,


I would imagine his underwear would have been showing lots of brown too!:eek:

I know mine would have been in the same circumstances.:yuk:

maverick22
6th Aug 2010, 10:15
NJS = National Jet Systems (now Cobham)

eternity
7th Aug 2010, 10:57
betman,


Might have been KUZ back then but I'm pretty sure its now getting around as JLT out of Cairns

nig&nog
7th Aug 2010, 12:15
Yes he is now flying for Cobham and doing a bloody good job, and did a good job then as well to get home.
nog not nig

pithblot
5th Apr 2013, 01:15
There were photos doing the rounds on the net; and I think Capt. Fathom is right, they were on Pprune. Can someone post them please?

Mr Milk
5th Apr 2013, 03:38
I reckon the photos were in flight safety or a simlar magazine.
It certainly was VH-KUZ which is now VH-JLT with chartair out of darwin.

I remember thinking those onboard had the luckiest day of their lives.

Dog One
7th Apr 2013, 22:54
Understand that a Brasilia on the same track diverted nearly 80nm north to get around the weather that night. One also wonders if there is any ongoing special maintenance inspections on the airframe?

compressor stall
7th Apr 2013, 23:13
Pretty sure I have the pictures on an old laptop that's no longer working. Hard drive is ok though, so all not lost. Just need the time - and knowledge - to recover a toshiba sat pro hard drive.

Oodnadatta
8th Apr 2013, 01:38
http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y467/Oldace20000/VH-KUZ-01_zpscb9ae12e.jpg

http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y467/Oldace20000/VH-KUZ-02_zps84181e7b.jpg

http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y467/Oldace20000/VH-KUZ-07_zpsacd2c686.jpg

http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y467/Oldace20000/VH-KUZ-06_zpsc5b25ca7.jpg

http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y467/Oldace20000/VH-KUZ-08_zps3a76c378.jpg

http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y467/Oldace20000/VH-KUZ-04_zps30ab2399.jpg

http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y467/Oldace20000/VH-KUZ-03_zpscaa5d075.jpg

http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y467/Oldace20000/VH-KUZ-05_zps141b5598.jpg

pithblot
8th Apr 2013, 12:08
Thanks gents. Oodnadatta, Compressor Stall.

Sobering stuff.

BEACH KING
8th Apr 2013, 12:25
Faaarrrk!!!:eek::eek::eek:
Moral of the story? Stay the hell away from thunderstorms!

Horatio Leafblower
8th Apr 2013, 12:33
People are funny creatures.

These photos of an incredible escape are more poiniant a warning to many of us than this:

...https://www.atsb.gov.au/publications/investigation_reports/2005/aair/aair200506266.aspx

Same size aeroplane (ish) and a terrifying outcome.

Mandatory reading, and something to think about for those who think the BARS requirement for WX radar is stupid :ugh:

gaunty
8th Apr 2013, 13:49
Horatio my friend.

I agree.

Why or is what the rationale for NOT having serviceable radar in high performance aircraft or any aircraft that operates in those or any area prone to CBs escapes me entirely. What chance of "seeing" the danger without one. Your MEL will allow you to get home but under very strict conditions.

A very lucky young man who hopefully was fully chastened.

The other question of course is did the structural damage result from the turbulence or the pilot handling being more aggressive than may have been necessary.

It used to be a requirement, but many idiots in the "industry" convinced CASA it was uneconomic. I.E they couldn't afford it. Really. Another massive CASA contribution to the safety of flight in our nation.

It's a testament to the structural integrity of that type. May I suggest and I will almost certainly start a row that if it had been a KingAir without a Saunders strap or similar there is a very high probability it would have been a smoking hole.

Betamax, "considering the Conquests history with tail problems" ??

beaver_rotate
9th Apr 2013, 00:02
No (what I am guessing) ACCIDENT report on the ATSB website?

No doubt it was reported with wings of that angle.

As a side, why do some incidents/accidents not get a mention the ATSB website does anyone know? The site has a database back to 1967 I think.

Thank you..