View Full Version : Help wanted; I've got no dong.


Lon More
10th Jul 2010, 08:54
I have one of those simple, battery powered front door bells with a solenoid that should go ding-dong. Despite changing the batteries it only "dings" but doesn't "dong" on the return stroke. Any suggestions, preferably useful, but then, this is JB,



tezzer
10th Jul 2010, 08:57
Thought this was going to be a request for money for someone stuck in Vietnam.

superspotter
10th Jul 2010, 08:59
Buy a new one.

Capetonian
10th Jul 2010, 08:59
Try pulling out the spring to make it stronger, that worked when my ding stopped donging. Otherwise a new bell would set you back ..... a fiver or so?

UniFoxOs
10th Jul 2010, 09:04
As it relies on the spring to return it for the dong, and the springs are not that powerful, it is usually dust clogging up where the "hammer" slides. Try checking that first. If it moves freely then do as Capetonian said and increase the spring power.

Cheers
UFO

tony draper
10th Jul 2010, 09:07
That's true only the ding is powered by electrical energy the dong relies on the potential energy stored in the spring.
:rolleyes:

Lon More
10th Jul 2010, 09:13
Thanks, will give the spring a tug.

Reason i asked was not just because I'm a tight-fisted Scot but because the house is going on the market.

ShyTorque
10th Jul 2010, 09:16
You need to lubricate your dinger. It should then slide in and out smoothly and be more effective as a donger.

This was the sort of answer you were hoping for, I'm sure.

Wholigan
10th Jul 2010, 09:41
Oh dear ShyTorque. If one were able to search for just the word "dinger" in here, one would find that a certain group of mods and members use the word as a substitute for the word "finger", after a minor incident with a hunting knife (very sharp one) in Norway by a certain someone.

Thus your post will be read with a rather large amount of giggling when thinking about the fact that:


It should then slide in and out smoothly and be more effective


:E;):E

Lon More
10th Jul 2010, 09:49
Any suggestions on the best lubricant then ST?

G-CPTN
10th Jul 2010, 09:50
Sounds like you've lost a few turns from the solenoid.

The spring does, in fact, provide the dong, but the strength of the ding is necessary to compress the spring so that it reacts and actuates the dong.

Of course, it might just be fluff in the space within the solenoid that surrounds the metal core . . .

Have you, perhaps, fitted digital batteries in place of the original analogue ones?

Some devices have alternative settings to permit two buttons to provide indication as to which doorway is being signalled.

It might also be corrosion within the bell-push creating resistance which is reducing the power of your ding.

tony draper
10th Jul 2010, 09:59
Next door have one of those solenoid donger thingies, bloody useless ,they never hear it, fortunately one's motion detector system picks up anyone approaching either door and one informs them on the intercom they have a visitor.
:)

rh200
10th Jul 2010, 10:34
shytorque

I'm feeling somewhat relieved that I was not the only one thinking the thread was going to be on a certin angle before opening it.

chuks
10th Jul 2010, 10:52
A new one: "You seem to have lost a few turns on your solenoid," should go right up there with "You seem to be a few sandwiches short of a picnic/a few Bricks shy of a full load, Your lights are on but no one is home," and a few others that have become worn out through over-use.

Thanks!

I have a dong or two left over from my time in Saigon. It is always good to keep one or two in reserve. Think of John Wayne Bobbit...

Mac the Knife
10th Jul 2010, 10:56
Come down to Cape Town and I'll make you a nice new one!

:ok:

Mac

mixture
10th Jul 2010, 10:57
Reason i asked was not just because I'm a tight-fisted Scot but because the house is going on the market.

And you reckon the lack of a "dong" on the return stroke of your bell is going to be a deal breaker ?

tony draper
10th Jul 2010, 11:01
Always surprized me reading ads for 150k plus houses sales blurb saying the dwelling had a burglar alarm fitted,yer a sixty quid burglar alarm would really seal the deal for me.
:)

green granite
10th Jul 2010, 11:03
Always surprized me reading ads for 150k plus houses sales blurb saying the dwelling had a burglar alarm fitted,yer a sixty quid burglar alarm would really seal the deal for me.

Agreed Mr D, all it says is "This is a high crime area"

henrybluebottle
10th Jul 2010, 11:06
I had the same problem when I didn't have a heavy duty battery installed.

Cron
10th Jul 2010, 11:10
Lon, if you do a quick search on the 'Net you will find that you are not the only person suddenly suffering that 50% door bell problem.

We are experiencing a minor Maunder Minimum at the moment and this not only shifts the Earth's magnetic lines of force by small amounts, it also intensifies them at certain points.

It sounds like your bell unit is aligned with an intensification location and the power in the spring is not enough to overcome the magnetic influence.

Moving the bell to the highest part of the house may work but in any event when the sunspot activity subsides the bell should return to normal.

Cron.

OFSO
10th Jul 2010, 11:16
Unscrew 'bell' from wall, rotate through 90 so plunger is vertical with 'ding' uppermost, rescrew on wall. Gravity will do the rest.

Alternatively, move to Uranus.

tony draper
10th Jul 2010, 11:33
Hmmm a elegant engineering solution Mr OFSO, however this may also necessitate the removal of the spring because the solenoid may not be energetic enough to overcome the compression resistance of said spring and gravity at the same time.
:)

corsair
10th Jul 2010, 11:41
Well at one point I had neither a ding or a dong but I traced the problem to the button which was a bit corroded. A quick clean and a twiddle or two and now all is good.

G-CPTN
10th Jul 2010, 11:47
What you need is a Leslie Phillips (http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/interview-leslie-phillips-oh-leslie-you-really-are-a-gorgeous-beast-1289756.html).

(You could even get a "Well, hallo o o . . . " included if you were lucky.)

Storminnorm
10th Jul 2010, 11:58
Had to buy some new batteries for my Ding Dong.
They've only been in there for twelve years.
Nothing lasts like it used to.
Problem is, the damn thing makes me jump now if
anyone rings it.

ShyTorque
10th Jul 2010, 12:12
Any suggestions on the best lubricant then ST?

I suggest that good old cure-all, WD40.

And as someone else suggested, any fluff should be removed. Especially if it's blue. ;)

Lon More
10th Jul 2010, 13:57
And as someone else suggested, any fluff should be removed. Especially if it's blue.

I'll get my fluffer on to it.

cavortingcheetah
10th Jul 2010, 14:03
_________________________________________________________________
When awful darkness and silence reign
Over the great Gromboolian plain,
Through the long, long wintry nights;--
When the angry breakers roar
As they beat on the rocky shore;--
When Storm-clouds brood on the towering heights
Of the Hills of the Chankly Bore:--

Then, through the vast and gloomy dark,
There moves what seems a fiery spark,
A lonely spark with silvery rays
Piercing the coal-black night,--
A Meteor strange and bright:--
Hither and thither the vision strays,
A single lurid light.

Slowly it wanders,--pauses,--creeeps,--
Anon it sparkles,--flashes and leaps;
And ever as onward it gleaming goes
A light on the Bong-tree stems it throws.
And those who watch at that midnight hour
From Hall or Terrace, or lofty Tower,
Cry, as the wild light passes along,--
'The Dong!--the Dong!
'The wandering Dong through the forest goes!
'The Dong! the Dong!
'The Dong with a luminous Nose!'

Long years ago
The Dong was happy and gay,
Till he fell in love with a Jumbly Girl
Who came to those shores one day,
For the Jumblies came in a sieve, they did,--
Landing at eve near the Zemmery Fidd
Where the Oblong Oysters grow,
And the rocks are smooth and gray.
And all the woods and the valleys rang
With the Chorus they daily and nightly sang,--
'Far and few, far and few,
Are the lands where the Jumblies live;
Their heads are green, and their hands are blue
And they went to sea in a sieve.'

Happily, happily passed those days!
While the cheerful Jumblies staid;
They danced in circlets all night long,
To the plaintive pipe of the lively Dong,
In moonlight, shine, or shade.
For day and night he was always there
By the side of the Jumbly Girl so fair,
With her sky-blue hands, and her sea-green hair.
Till the morning came of that hateful day
When the Jumblies sailed in their sieve away,
And the Dong was left on the cruel shore
Gazing--gazing for evermore,--
Ever keeping his weary eyes on
That pea-green sail on the far horizon,--
Singing the Jumbly Chorus still
As he sate all day on the grassy hill,--
'Far and few, far and few,
Are the lands where the Jumblies live;
Their heads are green, and their hands are blue
And they went to sea in a sieve.'

But when the sun was low in the West,
The Dong arose and said;--
--'What little sense I once possessed
'Has quite gone out of my head!'--
And since that day he wanders still
By lake or forest, marsh and hill,
Singing--'O somewhere, in valley or plain
'Might I find my Jumbly Girl again!
'For ever I'll seek by lake and shore
'Till I find my Jumbly Girl once more!'

Playing a pipe with silvery squeaks,
Since then his Jumbly Girl he seeks,
And because by night he could not see,
He gathered the bark of the Twangum Tree
On the flowery plain that grows.
And he wove him a wondrous Nose,--
A Nose as strange as a Nose could be!
Of vast proportions and painted red,
And tied with cords to the back of his head.
--In a hollow rounded space it ended
With a luminous Lamp within suspended,
All fenced about
With a bandage stout
To prevent the wind from blowing it out;--
And with holes all round to send the light,
In gleaming rays on the dismal night.

And now each night, and all night long,
Over those plains still roams the Dong;
And above the wall of the Chimp and Snipe
You may hear the sqeak of his plaintive pipe
While ever he seeks, but seeks in vain
To meet with his Jumbly Girl again;
Lonely and wild--all night he goes,--
The Dong with a luminous Nose!
And all who watch at the midnight hour,
From Hall or Terrace, or lofty Tower,
Cry, as they trace the Meteor bright,
Moving along through the dreary night,--
'This is the hour when forth he goes,
'The Dong with a luminous Nose!
'Yonder--over the plain he goes,
'He goes!
'He goes;
'The Dong with a luminous Nose!'

________________________________________________________________


Why on earth don't you invest in a Lurch?
Edward Lear wrote the poem, of course, not I!

MagnusP
10th Jul 2010, 14:11
Alternatively, move to Uranus.

There was no need for that.

BOAC
10th Jul 2010, 18:51
After some surprising hits for 'Fix your dong' I came up with this (http://ezinearticles.com/?Doorbell-Repair-For-Ding-Dongs&id=814081) (genuine -shock/horror) one.

Pugilistic Animus
10th Jul 2010, 21:59
Oh ...at first I thought you'd gone and married Lorena...:}

Juliet Sierra Papa
10th Jul 2010, 23:01
If you can hear the Ding then you already know that someone is there. If you really need to hear the Dong then I suggest you try some of the remedies mentioned. Try lubing the Dong bit, if you're not sure then take a walk next door and ask for a little help with some Dong lubrication.

PS. Wait while next door Hubby has gone to work before asking for help.

:uhoh:

OFSO
11th Jul 2010, 08:09
Quote:
Alternatively, move to Uranus.
There was no need for that.

OK; Magnus, move UP Uranus. No sticking dongs in the outer planets.....http://www.esa.int/esaCP/SEM44DZOFBG_index_0.html (http://www.esa.int/esaCP/SEM44DZOFBG_index_0.html)

Back to the serious bit. Has anyone noticed there are 220v ac dingdongs as well as 12v dc dindongs ? Unless you are an ex-GPO apprentice and hence immune to electrical shocks, might be an idea to disconnect the dingdong before stretching the spring, rewiring the solenoid, installing a small LHC, etc.....

Rollingthunder
11th Jul 2010, 08:29
Dingle, dangle, dongle, get one of those big chain thingies that ring a large brass bell inside....or a dongle....attach to laptop and email your presence to occupant.

Lon More
11th Jul 2010, 11:13
take a walk next door and ask for a little help with some Dong lubrication.


No chance!!!! The next door neighbour would win first prize in all aspects of a Dale Winton look-alike contest, :uhoh:

Storminnorm
11th Jul 2010, 11:31
I'm very disappointed. My doorbell is only 6 Volts.

Lon More
11th Jul 2010, 11:34
with 4 x U2, Norm so is mine . And it has terrible taste in music

Cacophonix
11th Jul 2010, 11:35
Is a dong a bit like a ding-a-ling? I suppose one could consult Chuck Berry or even Anita Ward.?

kPYese-Hl8M

first prize in all aspects of a Dale Winton look-alike contestThat's why they call it campanology I guess. ;)

BombayDuck
11th Jul 2010, 11:38
Lon More - Where did you get it from? The international anti-weapons-proliferation teams will want to have a word with you (http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/dprk/missile/nd-1.htm)...

Storminnorm
11th Jul 2010, 11:59
I never taught mine to sing Lon.
Most remiss of me.
All it says is Ding Dong.

Rossian
11th Jul 2010, 15:26
...after all this good advice - have you fixed the bloody thing or not? And who's advice did you take?

The Ancient Mariner

Lon More
11th Jul 2010, 15:56
I've given it a good tug, tickled it with a feather duster and smeared some Vaseline on it.




Now it just gives a gentle sigh!

G-CPTN
11th Jul 2010, 16:17
IMO, vaseline is a mistake, as it will clog the gap between the solenoid and the core . . .

frostbite
11th Jul 2010, 18:07
I'm not certain Lon was talking about his doorbell there.

larssnowpharter
11th Jul 2010, 18:19
Vaseline Not recoomended for use in said mode. Non water soluble. :ugh:

Can result in permanent sealing between moving surfaces with ageing.

angels
12th Jul 2010, 11:29
How about knockers? :ooh:

Storminnorm
12th Jul 2010, 11:32
:ok:Plenty of them on Pprune.:ok:

MagnusP
12th Jul 2010, 12:15
I thought this thread was about missing pages in the Beijing telephone directory.

ShyTorque
12th Jul 2010, 16:21
You could be Wong...

critter592
13th Jul 2010, 00:19
If there's no spring in your Ding, then it is no surprise that there's something wrong with your Dong. :}