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jjpiloto1
24th May 2010, 23:54
Hi to all
I have an upcoming interview with Qatar in Miami, any info would be greatly appreciated , the Sim is in a A323 , I flew Boeing all my career ......any :ouch:to share?

Thanks

169west
25th May 2010, 11:56
hey JJ

when did you sent your application?thanks

jjpiloto1
25th May 2010, 12:29
Around five weeks ago.....

Dehavillandman
25th May 2010, 15:25
are they paying for your hotel, airfare? how much time did you have when you applied?

169west
25th May 2010, 15:54
I think you have good TR and tons of flight time! are you appalling as DEC?

safelife
25th May 2010, 16:02
DEC are always appalling.

Valdemort
26th May 2010, 11:16
QR doesn't pay anything out of Doha ...

theaviator2005
26th May 2010, 14:46
Just finished an interview in Qatar this week.

First thing was the Written, fairly straightforward a few things that i did not remember from my former ATPL day's. I.e that 1 hp = 30ft slipped my mind.

Most of the questions fairly easy,

human performance questions not a problem (like how many hours after diving bellow 30fr u needa wait till flying again)

Weather questions was just Taf's, whats the weather at destination and cloud base.

Performance questions mainly Speed questions!!!

holding entry (given a fix with righthand turns how u gonna enter from the direction you are coming from? parallel.

All in all fairly easy but a few questions that would make u think!!! but i wouldnt sweat it.

Interview for us was all the same, no aircraft questions only CRM questions and your knowledge about the company. Again wouldnt sweat this either.

Now, i been flying private jets the last 4 years, and we were going to an A330 sim.

I got in the sim at 1.30AM really tired after a long day (getting up at 6AM to get ready for the interview)

Never flown with flyby wire and by far the hardest thing i tried before. Not that i think it is a hard system but you are so used to the yoke that you move the Sidestick lige if it was the yoke and it SCREWS U THE FxXXX up.

I am pretty sure i failed the Sim, i did a well to say the least a ****TY JOB.
was tired and kept my focus on that damn stick. So i lost my scan of the rest of the instruments, Busted altitude, airspeed and i have for the past 3 years flown the Proline 21 so trying to figure out the information on the screens was hard in itself.

Takeoff to 1500ft. intercept a radial, and yes i do know how to intercept a damn radial but last nigh i was totally blank as i kept my focus on that sidestick.

If i was a chief-pilot i sure wouldn't have hired me after last nights sim and i guess the only person i can blame is myself. Just sucks that it comes down to a Airbus sim to get a job or not specially when the job i went for was not even an Airbus position.

Would have preferred the 777 sim but they had us in the A-330 sim and call it unfair or what ever, didn't find it 100% fair to put guy's with corporate experience in a A330 sim at 1.30Am in the morning after being up for over 18 hrs. But thats what happened.

Anyways you never know whats gonna happen in this business and at least i can only get positively surprised should they call and still offer me a position but i highly doubt it. My only advise is to take it easy and hope that you get some rest before the Sim and that you keep ur head calm and do not concentrate so much on the sidestick as to the rest of your scan. And i do needa say and a few of the other guy's did fairly well in the Sim but a few of us FXXXX-up

Good luck hope it helpes ;-)

cf680c2b
26th May 2010, 17:52
theaviator2005

That was a nice post. I hope you get the job.

I sometimes wonder how these management types think. If they want an accurate assessment a Pilot's capabilities then put him/her in an environment that will not handicap the person. If they are going to put a yoke person in a sidestick than they should provide atleast a thirty minute practice session before starting the actual ride.

I know, I know.......wishful thinking!

Sqwak7700
26th May 2010, 18:07
theaviator2005:

You know, an interview not only gives the prospective employer to get to know you, but it also gives the employee a chance to see if they want to be employed there.

I don't work for Qatar, but it would certainly perk my ears up if they asked me to put in an 18hr duty day on my interview. You should consider yourself lucky of experiencing such frivolous regard for rest and duty times before making a life change like joining a new company and moving your family to the sand pit.

Just my 2 cents.

theaviator2005
26th May 2010, 22:43
Ya i hear u guy's as i talked to a few of the other guy's about the whole interview, i wasn't even sure if i should take a position here, i been in the middle east for 3 years before so i kinda know the deal, but hey always worth giving it a shot and see what it's about. Again just funny how it all comes down to a sim-session late at night when everything else went well.... Not worth letting stuff like that bug you though as i know what i am good at. Never failed a sim-ride, initial or re-current so not really bothered if a company are basing it all on stuff like this. But after now having had the chance to try it out at least its worth for others to know what they may expect. So again i had a few Pm's about what questions they had and so on, the other post on pprune have alot of questions and they are about the same as what u gonna be asked.

I studied the Ace handbook but really if u just skim through the book ur well on ur way, really wouldnt swet the written test, just get ur sleep ;-) ull need it.

Also the package they send us for the A-330 sim with all the callouts for flap settings and stuff i learned it all by heart but when it came down to it they changed it and said we should just call out what we normally did on our own aircraft, so that was a bit confusing.

Again good luck

SAM I AM
27th May 2010, 14:57
Hi every one I have an interview with Qatar airways next month any one knows how can i get the written test? and tell me how is it like !!

thx

SAM I AM
27th May 2010, 14:59
Hey man i just joined but would love to know if u got the job with QR !! and how was the interveiw.

Thx

169west
27th May 2010, 18:03
just by invitation! SO consider yourself lucky! What kind of TR you have in your ATP?thanks

ClearedForOption
27th May 2010, 18:57
I too got the invitation for the Miami interviews... I did read every post (all 1500) from the other Qatar Airways threads.

And... I too am looking for any other advice that anyone would care to impart. (Aside from all the doom and gloom, of course... please. After some of the places I've worked here in the states, it's par for the course.)

This will be my first 'sidestick' ride also, but I'll memorize the profiles and just do my best if I make it that far.

So, if anyone has any other insight...

From reading the other threads, it seems to go between a mentality of 'meat in the seat' to 'how current are you in shuttle landing.' I would guess, with the market being what it is that the standards are a little to the later.

As for the written test... yeah, I know I have to study. (and I shall) But, I'm from the U.S. - I'm an 'FAA' guy, in other words I don't start my stopwatch abeam the numbers. Overall, as a group, we are lacking in the theory compared to someone who took the 7,000 page JAA ATPL textbook(s) course. So, other than the questions I've gleaned from other threads, does anyone remember any questions from the test. (how many tests are being used, where to focus my study of the theory, such as performance and air law for instance, or is completely random) Or, do you remember if the questions are straight out of the ATPL books... i.e. if I try and study backwards from the example questions, would that help?

I can take the schedules and 'abuse' - what job doesn't come with it's challenges. I'd actually really like to work for Qatar Airways. (I even liked working for the companies I worked at in the past, I wouldn't do the job if it still wasn't the greatest job on the earth, once the door is shut)

What else should I, or can I do, to be successful?

Thanks everyone for the advice and look forward to meeting everyone else in Miami. (and thanks to everyone in the community who posted their experiences so far...)

loc22550
27th May 2010, 19:57
Regarding your Sidestick ride on the 320 or 330:
One GOLDEN rule:The less you touch it(the stick) the better it is!:ok:

Paper Lad
27th May 2010, 22:40
loc 22550 has it, with the side stick, finger and thumb only (don't grip it like you would your c@ck) and remember to put the armrest down to support your elbow.

No good posting any of the questions here 'cos as soon as they appear they will be deleted from the exam. Ace The Tech Pilot is good but the best is getting hold of a briefing for the Cathay Pacific interviews.

Unless you are a real academic hotshot don't expect the written test to be easy, despite the posts above. Or maybe I'm just a thickie:8;), still, managed to muddle my way through.

See you in the desert fellas

Paper Lad
28th May 2010, 09:36
Book available called: Preparing For Your Cathay Pacific Interview.

They have something in the order of 70 test papers to chose from and you will find that your interview group will be given different papers. No cheating boys;).

gopher121
28th May 2010, 09:59
Is there somebody with no Jet experience got an invitation?
I have 1500 hrs on multi-crew light turboprop , do you think I have a chance.

Thanks

cf680c2b
28th May 2010, 16:10
gopher121, good questions.

Maybe some of the guys who have been invited to the Miami interview can share what their quals are. That should give you an idea of what kind of experience they are looking for.

Mastergringomann
29th May 2010, 18:46
Hi! Could you tell me the dates that the interview will be?
Thanks

ClearedForOption
29th May 2010, 21:25
Thanks everyone so far for the advice.

PL - I do have the CX book, I will add that to my study regime. Thank you.

My quals: ~3000 TT, ATP with a Corp. Jet Type. Most of my time is SIC on CL-65 and BE-1900, I too have airline experience with multiple airlines. Along with the normal instructor time and piston time.

Iver
30th May 2010, 14:50
How long is the training bond for at QR? Minimum of 2 or 3 years? Sounds like most newhires will get the A320/A319.

atpcliff
30th May 2010, 17:10
Hi!

Newhires going to multiple airframes.

1st I heard of interviews outside of Doha. QR, Emirates getting more and more desperate, along with many of the contract/expat-hiring companies.

cliff
LFW

Capt Krunch
30th May 2010, 19:10
atpcliff
1st I heard of interviews outside of Doha. QR, Emirates getting more and more desperate
Thats a funny thing to say.. you dont really think just because it's the first you have heard of QA having a road show that it's never been done here before, do you?:confused:

QA has been doing road shows for years now, mainly concentrating on Asian / European areas with American / Canadian road shows only once or twice a year. The reason for coming to the US and Canada is obvious, many of the pilots in these areas are out of work and Desperate.
it's a well known fact that enticing someone to come to this part of the world to live and work is not easy, but it's much easier when you have no other choice, isn't it. QA and other carriers hunt where the hunting is good.. thats just the way it is.

Poisoned by Compromise
Krunch

SAM I AM
30th May 2010, 23:09
Hey man when is yor interveiw in Miami ?? mine will be on jun 16th but i still can't find anything to study for the written test i am kinda lost too :bored:
so plzzzz if u know anything about it let me know.

thx

SAM I AM
30th May 2010, 23:20
from what i keep reading about the written test it sounds like its impossible to pass it without studying for it but study from where i have no idea makeing me start thinking about not going to the interview OMG any help guys plz

cf680c2b
31st May 2010, 06:07
Capt Krunch, I think this is more than a road show. I believe they are doing the full interview plus the sim in Mia. I don't know if they've done that before.

Capt Krunch
31st May 2010, 06:53
cf680c2b

sorry, I generalized with regards to the word 'road show'.

Yes, they have done this on many occasions in the past. recently in Canada, as well as a few times in the UK, Singapore on a few occasions. Not to mention many other destinations as well. To be honest, this is nothing new.
it's mainly dependent on the overall cost and availability of resources. It's much easier than having an endless stream of candidates coming to Qatar as there are many other factors that come into play. Hotel availability (the country of often fully booked) QA Sim availability as well as issuance of Visitor Visa, and thats also not to mention space availability on our flights as most run quite full.

Poisoned by Compromise
Krunch

filejw
31st May 2010, 12:14
For the guys a few post up. I am a boeing mostly have but 2500 hrs in Airbus A/C . Just forget you are using the side stick and just stay with your scan. Also just use one or two fingers and very lightly at that to move the stick..good luck.

KRUGERFLAP
2nd Jun 2010, 16:56
They already did interview / SIM in Miami as well .It was in 2007.

FlyinAsia
3rd Jun 2010, 12:23
Just finished (June 2) the screening at QR in Doha. They have a new "Pilot Assessor", a Yank, first name Carl. Former ABex, now over 65 and looking to hang on to fly a ferry flight once in a while.

Real bad news. Very condescending, mocks your answers, stops you in the middle of them. Did not ask a single question that I had seen on the forums here. All TMAT, and he is looking for somthing specific, not sure just what because he tanked 2 of the 3 of us that interviewed with him. (The other interviewers passed both of theirs.)

Good luck if Carl shows up in Miami, or you get him in Doha.

cf680c2b
4th Jun 2010, 16:16
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Don't worry boys, if Carl says no, big rival down south has no choice but to say yes:ok:.

FlyinAsia
5th Jun 2010, 07:14
Carl asked me,
TMAT that you had a disagreement with another crew member, what you did, and how it turned out. (Not sure what he was looking for, he interrupted me numerous times during my answer with, "you're missing my point", and "I need more detail", then said, "let me read the question one more time" in a very condescending tone.)
TMAT that you heard something by actively listening, that no one else heard.
How do you do Team Building?
TMAT you had something occur that was completely outside your control.
TMAT you were not the team leader, but took it upon yourself to lead a team to do a task. (When I finished my answer, he actually rolled his eyes, and said, "well, I guess that was good enough.")
TMAT you had a disagreement with another crew member that turned out you were wrong, and what you did about it. (Again, no clue what he was looking for, kept interrupting me on that one as well.)

Hope that helps, and really hope you don't draw Carl for your interview.

extreme P
8th Jun 2010, 19:51
from what i keep reading about the written test it sounds like its impossible to pass it without studying for it but study from where i have no idea makeing me start thinking about not going to the interview OMG any help guys plz

Sounds like the Cathay Pacific interview "gouge" might be of assistance?

skycraft
10th Jun 2010, 15:02
Hello everyone,

I have a question about the sim evaluation in Miami. The sim briefing they send you has B777 and A330 information. However, the sim evaluation is on the A320. Will it be ok to just review the A330 stuff for the A320 sim eval.


thanks.

DeBee
10th Jun 2010, 18:03
Yes! They fix the weights. Good luck

Paper Lad
11th Jun 2010, 00:00
Skycraft,

Learn the 330 profiles as given, they work just great for the 320.....well, they did for me:ok:. The assessors will be looking for good CRM/two crew work and a steady improvement of performance throughout the detail, and be ready to deal with a 'minor' in flight emergency, I got APU fire.

Other than take off, setting around 50% N1 works for just about everything. It will all be raw data.

Good luck dude.

PL

skycraft
11th Jun 2010, 14:29
Thank you Paper Lad and Debee

Flyer1015
26th Jun 2010, 04:40
To everyone getting interviews at MIA, do you all have the ATPL? Anyone get an interview with Comm-ME-Inst and ATP Written?

butterfly68
26th Jun 2010, 10:33
Does anyone know if Qatar does interviews in other places than Miami in the next future? :confused:

ForeverYoung
26th Jun 2010, 22:29
Laid off twice in last two years...need work:ugh:...interview next week in Miami!:eek:
10,000 total time...
4000 PIC jet and turboprop...

I don't know what to believe from reading these threads...the guys I've met from QR seem satisfied with the job.

wilax
26th Jun 2010, 23:00
I just got back last week on 8 guy 5 fail the exam,be prepare!!!!

ForeverYoung
29th Jun 2010, 18:58
Interview is three phases. Each phase must be passed to advance to the next. In my group 2 failed the written and one the interview.

50 question knowledge exam taken from JAA ATPL subjects. Recommend aviationtire.com for practice tests.

Interview:

HR questions are typical. What do you know about Qatar Airways? Tell us about your career up to this point. Will your family be accompanying you to Qatar? What airplane do you want to fly? What do you bring to Qatar Airways?

Technical questions prefaced by we want to get to know more about you. All questions were of the kind "tell me about a time or describe a situation when..."

Examples: Tell me about a time when you made a decision that was unpopular.
Describe a time when as a member of a team the outcome of the project was disappointing. Describe a time when you had to think on your feet to avoid a difficult situation. Describe a situation where you were not in control and how did you cope with it.

Simulator is the final phase. I can't tell you about that part because I didn't make it past the interview.

A word of advice. If you have a family, it is clear they expect your family to accompany you to Qatar. The interviewer became noticeably agitated when I told him I was planning not to have my my family accompany me, at least initially. He said if we hire you there is a 99.9% chance you will be a first officer on the A320, not the 777, when will you see your family? My answer was they can travel to Qatar from time to time for a visit. They clearly did not like my answers on this line of questioning, especially when I said that persons in the military are often separated from their families for extended periods, so we'll manage.

When I answered this question the interview was clearly over. http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/wbored.gif But from what I read in this forum, why would I subject my family to 30 days a month in Doha when I will only be there for 8? http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/confused.gif My family should not have to suffer because of where I choose to work.

Mine was an honest answer. His response was quite telling. Clearly they want a captive workforce. That way it will be be impossible for the unhappy pilot to get off the airplane in London with no intention of returning when his family is still in Doha. http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/censored.gif

Going in I had my doubts about this company.

Capt Krunch
30th Jun 2010, 04:33
Philosophy here.

you come to Qatar to work.. full stop.. your under the sponsorship (work visa) of the airline and they can control whether you can come or go from this country. Your expected to be fully dedicated to the airlines operations and available when they need you. your family, friends and anything else is secondary. You come to Qatar, you live in Qatar. commuting is not an option. (hence the max 3 days off unpublished rule)

Having said that. In QA that would be the perfect pilot. Yes they can control whether you come or go via mandatory Exit Permits required to leave the country. But there is a option to purchase a Multi-Exit Permit from the company. the only thing is that they can still have it cancelled with just a simple phone call. (you have to be really bad for that to happen)

On occasion the airline does take away your day off and change it to a duty day or completely rearrange your roster with little or no notice and there is nothing you can do about it. depends on the fleet depends on how much that happens. In some cases you can loose your annual leave days as well, doesn't happen that often but it does and has happened.(you still have the days stored but they are removed for operational reasons). remember you come here to work for the airline.
you can request a day OFF for your kids / wife birthday, anniversary or anything similar.. whether it be honored or not is just chance and there is no personal humanity, so get used to it. Thats just the way it is here.

if your single, dont mind bouncing around in a aircraft from day to day. or blindly sitting in Qatar for days of standby with no where to go. If you like working in a place where the only this constant is that nothing is ever constant. then this airline is for YOU.

Poisoned by Compromise
Krunch

airwjo
30th Jun 2010, 09:56
wow wow wow

very very well said

i can recommend to all guys reading this forum - think about the statement from capt krunch.

all true and exactly at the point.
:}

airwjo
30th Jun 2010, 10:04
amendment to capt krunch's statement about rostering:

rostering is a mafia and nothing else - talked to a guy, who called jeppesen personally about the bidding system; they told him, he got 100% of his bits, on his roster was not even 40% - and yes, they change your roster, how they like it and believe me - you will be legal for your flight.

about the leave - if they cancel your leave for operational reasons, your days will be still there, but you have to fight for it or to get the money at least

good luck

Benashy7
30th Jun 2010, 18:38
Hi Guys,

Do you know where to find info on Europen 'Roadshows'? Can't find anything on the website...

Thanks.

atpcliff
5th Jul 2010, 02:46
Hi!

Minimums:
My buddy showed me that QR has just lowered their requirements:

First Officers
Minimum of 1,000 hours in one of the following categories:
- Multi Crew, Multi Engine Jet Aircraft
- Command Turbo-Prop above 20,000kg MTOW
- High Performance Military Jets
Valid ICAO ATPL or Frozen ATPL
Valid Instrument Rating
Valid Class 1 Medical.
ICAO English Proficiency Minimum level 4.
Age below 50 years at date of joining
Experience Commensurate With Age

I applied about a year ago, when I met the minimums. After 2 or 3 months, they raised them and I did not meet them. Now I meet them again, so I will re-apply.

Test studying:
JAA ATPL Test | AviationTire.com (http://www.aviationtire.com/atplsubject.cfm)
...another website said there were about 24,000 qestions in the JAA test bank!

cliff
LFW

Abeo
5th Jul 2010, 03:48
atpcliff, the QR quizz questions are JAA based, they have nothing to do with the JAA exams' questions. Studying the JAA question bank will achieve close to nothing and confuse you, as they go much deeper into their subject. Study "Ace the technical pilot interview", it covers what you will be asked.

atpcliff
5th Jul 2010, 05:57
thanx for that info...

skycraft
12th Jul 2010, 22:22
Has anyone interviewd in Miami heard from QR. Does anyone know how long it takes to get a response? Is it usually in the form of an email or a phone call?

Thank you.

sandpitwantabe
13th Jul 2010, 18:36
I wish you all the best of luck with your interviews, however think twice beofre taking a job here, read all the comments about life in Qatar and life working for QR. Take a few pills go to dark room and lie down, when you feel you have no desire to work for QR anymore then you are well again.:ugh: