View Full Version : Any ideas how this works?

Noah Zark.
3rd Apr 2010, 20:00

tony draper
3rd Apr 2010, 20:32
Yer clever stuff,seems to be a form of entertainment and indeed entertainer that has died out here, Magicians used to feature large on the Telly in the past,Sunday Night at the London Palladium and such.
I watched that David Blaine in a telly documentary years ago before he become famous and a complete loon doing street magic,just completely baffling,logic tells us there is no such thing as magic and we know it is a trick of some kind,but how the hell do they do these things.

Um... lifting...
3rd Apr 2010, 20:51
Well, they get a table with an opening in the middle, so the performer can be surrounded by his audience...

...oh, you meant the sleight-of-hand... no bloody idea... and if one had, one surely wouldn't reveal it... magician never reveals his secrets... one gathers it's in the code... read it in the ROE for the Professional Prestidigitators Rumour Network.

Noah Zark.
3rd Apr 2010, 21:21
.........or this?


3rd Apr 2010, 21:26
I reckon his ring is a powerful magnet, which would explain the coin dropping as he pulls his hand away, & perhaps there's a trick coin which flips into itself to become one.

I've no idea how he positions the hole in the table without it being seen though.

3rd Apr 2010, 21:29
Magic tricks are sleight of hand, manipulated natural forces, deception, distraction or mechanically enhanced, like double sided coins, secret compartments etc.

The real trick is the practiced hand of the performer - that was what made Tommy Cooper so great; he could do it right enough, he just chose to cock it up for the laughs. That and his funny bones.

Um... lifting...
3rd Apr 2010, 21:32
Some say that second one has a removable section of glass (somewhat smaller than the obscuring paper) that the helper inside removes during the shoe-removing distraction and then re-installs after the trick and before the final reveal.

One prefers to continue to be fooled... for entertainment's sake.

tony draper
3rd Apr 2010, 21:43
Paul Daniels might have been a short arsed tosser but he was also a brilliant magician,watched him once, right in front of the camera he takes a folded brown pape bag out of his pocket,twere a bit smaller than the ones the cousins take home their shopping in, he hands it to a guy from the audience sitting up on the stage and tells him to unfold it and hold it out,bloke does this and Daniels sticks in his hand in it and pulls out a full pint of beer,:eek:and it was beer, not a coloured glass,how the ****!! comeon!!you cant keep a pint of beer up yer sleeve.

3rd Apr 2010, 21:48
Paul Daniels might have been a short arsed tosser

He still is.:rolleyes:

tony draper
3rd Apr 2010, 21:58
Yer, but the poor buggah is reduced to doing adverts now.:)

3rd Apr 2010, 22:11
magician never reveals his secrets... one gathers it's in the code... read it in the ROE for the Professional Prestidigitators Rumour Network.

Always found it amusing when people say this - haha if this were true, then the trick would eventually become obsolete because nobody would know how to do it! But yet it continues on for centuries and centuries... Somebody had to pass it on. :ok:

Um... lifting...
3rd Apr 2010, 22:22
No... they won't reveal it except to holders of a Commercial Prestidigitator's Licence (CPL) or higher. Of course they reveal it to someone, just not the unwashed masses.

3rd Apr 2010, 22:23
'Cept Penn & Teller of course...

Um... lifting...
3rd Apr 2010, 22:24
Without the unwashed masses, where would P & T be?:ok:

3rd Apr 2010, 22:26
Wthout the unwashed masses, where would any entertainer be?:}

Um... lifting...
3rd Apr 2010, 22:30
Unwashed and alone, one supposes...;)

3rd Apr 2010, 22:30
I imagine that extensive practice is required - if you see someone shuffling cards in a casino and someone doing dexterity (slight of hand) tricks like the three cups (I wowed my almost three-year-old grandson with the latter trick recently) then you can appreciate that some skill is essential.

3rd Apr 2010, 22:42
Here's an example of one of the old-time masters Mr. Draper was talking about: the great Slydini.

Pure, coordinated, graceful hand movements. Looks so simple, but must be incredibly difficult to master.

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4th Apr 2010, 09:22
The pause button is a wonderful thing and assisted me to prove my suspicion re the trick at about 3.00 where I suspected that he had a trick coin on top of the table that looked like two coins, but snapped back into a single unit when bumped from below, and a fourth coin, the third coin in fact, in the hand below the table whiich he simply conceals, then the hand is faster than the eye, but not the you tube.

boring and too simple to be bothered further, anyhow 'Bones'starts soon and i need to focus on important things.


Noah Zark.
4th Apr 2010, 09:42
I reckon his ring is a powerful magnet,


tony draper
4th Apr 2010, 09:50
On the other hand he could be a multi dimentional being from the planet Throndel, solid matter dont mean sh!it to them.

4th Apr 2010, 12:03
Shell coin, I reckon. Even if it is, the co-ordination is fantastic.

4th Apr 2010, 13:40
Had a mate that was into all this Magic mallarky.
He died a couple of years ago and his Mrs gave all
his stuff to the Magic Circle.
Mind you, the Undertaker moaned that every time they
put him in his box, and put the lid on, he'd disappear!!!

Pugilistic Animus
5th Apr 2010, 15:53
quantum mechanical tunneling of course:}

Noah Zark.
5th Apr 2010, 23:07
By the way, with regards to the first post, answers along the lines of "There's a chink in the glass" are not acceptable! :}

6th Apr 2010, 06:35
Somewhere in the back of my mind was this question 'why is he sitting in the middle of a circular table?' but at first I forgot to ask myself what that would bring that an ordinary square one wouldn't.

Then it dawned (Rising Sun pun, sorry) that the table turns, like a CD in a CD player - and there is a hole in the glass. Which also accounts for the stuff with the coins, as well as his arm going through it.

That's my theory, anyway.

6th Apr 2010, 08:02
While back I was watching some evening 'magazine' type program on the box and they had a magician on performing a trick where he took sheets of paper, crumpled them up into balls then made them dissappear. Presenter was totally baffled as to where they were going but the rest of the world could see - the magician was simply distracting the presenter with one hand and while he was distracted throwing them over his shoulder with the other. The screen showed the presenter sat with a large pile of 'vanished' paper behind him.

Quite fascinating in its simplicity and effectiveness.

6th Apr 2010, 09:21
More of Lu Chen here. (

He is a Taiwanese magician/illusionist. The link shows some of his street magic. He is very good.

HarleyD, I agree with you regarding the coin but watch to the end of the clip and explain the hand through the glass.