Melb School's?

[VH-YYY]

Looking to start my training, I live in Eltham so Essendon is closest.
Who is a better outfit out of Pearsons or Interair?
Rates / Ac / Instructors?
Any Other Places I Should Look At And Why?

Thanks Heaps,

Gaz

[Wanderin_dave]

Lilydale is closer to Eltham than YMEN and that's where i'd be looking even if it was further :ok:

[archangel7]

try perasons mate, they have been doing it for much longer and they have newer aircraft.

[eocvictim]

I've heard conflicting things about pearsons but nothing flash. I dont know anyone who's dealt with interair but never heard anything good about them either. Either make the extra 15 min treck down to MB and look at MFS/MFT/Royal vic/Peter Bini or go to Lilydale. Make sure you speak with the CFI because he gets paid if you fly there or not and wont care if its not for you.

[ReverseFlight]

Don't let your residence dictate your training location.

I know one very experienced ME IFR instructor who also lives in Eltham and guess where he teaches ? Not EN, not LIL, not CEM. He drives all the way to the mecca, MB. Go figure. :)

[eocvictim]

The much larger pay check would probably help make his decision.

[VH-XXX]

He drives all the way to the mecca, MB

Obviously your idea of a "mecca" varies somewhat to mine :rolleyes:

[VH-YYY]

Hey!
I Dropped into MFS on the weekend very very nice, very welcoming and helpful! Great fleet! 10 planes oldest is only 4 years! only i had a go in only had 600hrs on it!
Very good crew down there! i should of been to YMMB ages ago!!!!! :ok::ok:

[eocvictim]

Good choice :ok:

[ckaine]

What the heck is going on with MFS' Website.....??

Moorabbin Flying Services (http://www.mfs.com.au)

Do a google search and you'll see what I mean.

[ReverseFlight]

Simple - the MFS website has been so popular that some online Viagra-selling pharmacy has hijacked it. :E

[eocvictim]

Sounds like they know their demographic :E

[ALMOSTaPPL]

Essendon would be expensive and don't go to Lil, I was not happy there so I am looking at Mecca too. Can anybody offer me a good school there?

[ALMOSTaPPL]

There is a big turn over of Junior instructors so with each new instructor they want you to re-do everything again! I want to find a school at Moorabbin that has a good rating and with an older instructor (a lot older than 22) who isn't chasing the hours to go to a bigger airline company. I thought Lil would have been good as qantas captain of >15000 hrs directed me here but I have been disappointed with the service.

[AirBumps]

I had a similiar problem at YLIL several years ago when I was looking for places to do my PPL. Lilydale was very close to home, and seemed convienent but had very junior instructors (at that time) who seemed much more interested in building their own hours rather than actually teaching me to fly. I also remember that they had a policy whereby once you had a PPL (or CPL if I understand correctly) you had to do a 3 hour 'check flight' with one of their instructors every 3 months if you wanted to hire one of their aircraft. C'mon please. Evern one of the instructors told me that that was just money grabbing....

The A/C where cheaper per hour than most you'll find at MB, however the qualitity of training aircraft at MOST MB schools is better, IMHO.

AB

[Track5milefinal]

There is a big turn over of Junior instructors so with each new instructor they want you to re-do everything again!


Pure flying school incompetency, you should have an achievement folder which the instructor will fill in post flight, therefore if an instructor change happens to take place (which happens!) the new instructor can leave where the previous left off.


I want to find a school at Moorabbin that has a good rating and with an older instructor (a lot older than 22)


Those days are long gone!


I thought Lil would have been good as qantas captain of >15000 hrs directed me here but I have been disappointed with the service.


If you are not happy go straight to the top and have a word to the CFI and if things don't change move on to another training provider, you can lose thousands of $$$

:ok:T5

[ReverseFlight]

I want to find a school at Moorabbin that has a good rating and with an older instructor (a lot older than 22)

This is not the sole criteria. My advice is to go for instructors who had a previous career doing something else or who actively does something unrelated as a second job. The more the proportion of instructors fulfilling these criteria, the better the flight school. :D

[AirBumps]

Perhaps they've changed. This would have been back back in 2007/2008. I actually went in there a few times after I had got my PPL since it was so close to home. I figured that since ther rates where reasonable and it was nearby, what better place to fly. Problem was that asside from their Archer III I was very disappointed with their aircraft, and then this whole check flight thing came up.

I did one to start with, thinking that its fair enough if I'm going to be hiring their aircraft that the know I can fly one, but but then when I went back in several months later (after doing more flying from MB) they told me I was no longer current with them, and would need to do another one. Pigs arse I thought.

Its a shame really, because its such a nice location and has so much potential.

[eocvictim]

Perhaps they've changed. This would have been back back in 2007/2008. I actually went in there a few times after I had got my PPL since it was so close to home. I figured that since ther rates where reasonable and it was nearby, what better place to fly. Problem was that asside from their Archer III I was very disappointed with their aircraft, and then this whole check flight thing came up.

I did one to start with, thinking that its fair enough if I'm going to be hiring their aircraft that the know I can fly one, but but then when I went back in several months later (after doing more flying from MB) they told me I was no longer current with them, and would need to do another one. Pigs arse I thought.

Its a shame really, because its such a nice location and has so much potential.

Hate to be the one to inform you but its the same at most (all I have encountered) schools; its usually an insurance requirement. Most schools at MB and all the schools at JT wont hire out aircraft without a check; even with 250hrs within the previous 3 months they've said no. The only reason I'm able to hire at MB or LIL without a check is because I've worked at both and friends with 4 or 5 CFI's and ATO's.

[AirBumps]

Really? Granted I only flew from the one school whilst doing my PPL at MB, but I didn't realise that most schools had this sort of policy.

I can understand wanting an initial check done of course, regardless of how many hours you've got. That makes sense for the school and insurance. I just would have thought once you had been seen to be compentent by an instructor, you wouldn't have to re-prove your competence each 90 days (assuming of course your maintaining your legal requirments for currency).

After gaining my PPL I flew from that school consistantly 5 or six times a month for 10 months without a check from one of their instructors.

Oh well, maybe I got lucky.

[AirBumps]

Hey Bumps, your mate got his mug on telly last night http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/badteeth.gif Word is he's gunning for his own T.V. show http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/badteeth.gif
Yeah, whats worse is that it made the papers over here on the otherside of the world! I spoke with him yesterday, little prick was loving every minute of it!

[JimletG1000]

Just did a Google search then on the MFS website, seems to be all fixed. New one looks nice.

Moorabbin Flying Services (http://www.mfs.com.au)

[d.shaw15]

I am currently taking part in the First Officer Ready program conducted by Altara and ANSETT Aviation Training. The flying aspect is done at YMEN with Pearsons AViation, very thorogh and very good mob.

Look into it, you come out with CPL, ATPL, Command Instrument, IREX and a type rating of your choice and about 200 hours all set up for direct airline entry.

Oh and by the way, it only takes around 12months, beats the heck out of any uni course, who wants to sit around for 4 years when you could be employed in 1.

[Blank]

Really? you think that after 12 months you will be employable with an airline in aus?.... Sad these programs all promise, atttract to many people stuck in a fantasy land. Best school in melbs is the one that you feel comfy with enjoy your flying don't get so stuck up on future this future that. you will only end up like countless others struggling to get a GFPT because your head is way too far up in the clouds....

[Di_Vosh]

d.shaw,

I'm curious about this "course" that you're doing.

Look into it, you come out with CPL, ATPL, Command Instrument, IREX and a type rating of your choice

Presumably the ATPL is the theory subjects only. By "type rating" do you mean PA31, Baron, or 737/A320?

I'm just asking because you seem to think that with 200 hours you will be

all set up for direct airline entry.

You do realise that this wont be in Australia?

DIVOSH!

[VH-XXX]

I'd sign up tomorrow if I thought I could walk away with an ATPL in 12 months! How do you get up the 1,500 hours in 12 months? This magical course must cost a couple of hundred $k.