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MUFC_fan
1st Feb 2010, 14:27
Better flight management could cut aviation emissions by up to 95% : Heathrow Airport News Stories (http://uk-airport-news.info/heathrow-airport-news-010210.html)

Praised as one of the best Universities on the planet, they seem to have come up with something that many people on here could have told them a long time ago...

However, 95% seems VERY steep!

Our government invest £millions in Universities every year, maybe they should now take notice...

Groundloop
1st Feb 2010, 16:21
Everyone in the industry has known this for years - except the 95% cut claim is WAY WAY over the top! As an example, there was a trial on the Pacific with United, QANTAS and ANZ where every possible ATM trick was used - immediate take-off clearance, direct routings, in flight re-routings to use best winds and priority approaches and the savings were about 5%!!!

Things are gradually moving that way with developments such as the Single European Sky (SESAR). One enormous source of savings would be if the Americans introduced a slot system such as used in Europe instead of the current free-for-all where everyone timetables an 08.00 departure and then queue up on the taxiway burning fuel for up to an hour!

lplsprog
2nd Feb 2010, 07:52
Why do people concentrate on aviation for being the biggest polluter. Nobody has ever questioned why sea travel has never been included in the pollution figures as a great amount of co2 is pumped out by ships all over the world but they never get mentioned. :confused:

Groundloop
2nd Feb 2010, 12:11
The article linked to in the first post is a classic example of misquoting!

The original paper can be found here:-

http://www.smithschool.ox.ac.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0012/11028/Air_Chapter.pdf

The figure given for possible savings for better ATM in Europe (ie SESAR) is 12%.

The 95% figure is combining ALL possible souces of savings - aerodynamics, blended wing bodies, new engine technology, new fuel technology etc.

pottwiddler
2nd Feb 2010, 22:41
the cement industry make a lot of CO2 as a result of manufacture, about 5% of all global man-made CO2 emissions, whereas air transport is 2%.