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ORAC
29th Jan 2010, 08:13
AWST (Ares): PAK FA Flies (http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/blogs/defense/index.jsp?plckController=Blog&plckBlogPage=BlogViewPost&newspaperUserId=27ec4a53-dcc8-42d0-bd3a-01329aef79a7&plckPostId=Blog%3a27ec4a53-dcc8-42d0-bd3a-01329aef79a7Post%3acb2debc4-be2a-48db-8887-abc86f08ebc3&plckScript=blogScript&plckElementId=blogDest)

http://sitelife.aviationweek.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/7/10/4765a4ec-492b-4c58-aa00-d2edc2f1234f.Large.jpg

Maxim Pyadushkin writes

Russia’s fifth generation fighter, Sukhoi’s T-50 prototype, was flown for the first time from Komsomolsk-on-Amur on Russia’s Far East at 11.19 local time on Friday, January 29. After the 47 minutes flight the aircraft landed at the airfield of Sukhoi’s KnAAPO facility which assembles PAK FA prototypes. The T-50 is intended to meet the Russian air force’s PAK FA requirement for a next-generation fighter.

The first prototype was flown by Sukhoi test pilot Sergey Bogdan. He says it was easy and comfortable to control, and the aircraft performed well on all stages of the flight test program. “During the flight we have conducted the initial evaluation of the aircraft’s controls, performance of the engine and main systems. The aircraft also retrieved and extracted a landing gear”, said Bogdan.

The T-50 design reflects a greater emphasis on low-observable shaping than Moscow's previous fifth-generation effort, MiG’s 1.42 program. Sukhoi started the development of PAK FA in the early 2000s. The first flight was initially scheduled for mid-2009. Three prototypes one of which was delivered to Moscow and is being used for static tests. In December another PAK FA prototype started taxi trials at KnAAPO facility. The third aircraft is believed to be used as a complex full-scale stand intended for ground testing.

Sukhoi doesn’t reveal technical parameters of the new fighter. Nevertheless it’s known that PAK FA prototypes will be powered by a pair of NPO Saturn 117S engines. These engines, a further modification of AL-31F, rated at up to 14.5 ton thrust are now also installed at the new Su-35 multirole fighters. The T-50’s avionics suite is being developed by Ramenskoe Design Bureau. The company’s head Givi Djanjgava earlier explained that the suite includes six-processor computer, visualization tools and flight instrument system.

According to Sukhoi, PAK FA avionics integrates ‘electronic pilot” function and AESA radar being developed by Tikhomorov NIIP design bureau. NIIP’s full-scale phased array antenna was unveiled at Moscow MAKS in August 2009. At that time Anatoly Sinany, Tikhomirov’s chief designer, explained that T-50’s radar antenna will have 1,500 T/R modules, produced by Iztok company from Fryazino, near Moscow. The new avionics will give T-50 network-centric capabilities, enable it to exchange real-time data within the air group and with ground command posts.

But the first PAK FA prototype is likely to fly without radar as it’s just passing bench tests. The first radar for the aircraft is expected to be ready in mid-2010.

Sukhoi also reports that the new fighter implies composite materials and innovation technologies that together with the aerodynamic shape of the fuselage and reduced engine’s signature ensure its low radar, optical and IR visibility.

The new aircraft is expected to enter in service in 2015 and will be supplied to the Russian Air Force along with Su-35 fighters. Commenting the start of PAK FA flight trials, Sukhoi head Mikhail Pogosyan also mentioned that India will join the program on later stages.

Sqwark2000
29th Jan 2010, 08:49
I thought Korea was producing a jet trainer with the designation T-50??

Flyingblind
29th Jan 2010, 09:00
So son of Flanker/YF23/F16XL lives!

Well done the Red corner.

Interesting times in 10 years or so when platform/system maturity allow for exports.

YouTube - Pak Fa First Flight (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPHzCqSJ5xY)

YouTube - ?????? (100129-110006).avi (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XqwDEU0fus&feature=player_embedded)

TEEEJ
29th Jan 2010, 11:06
The T-50 is an internal company designation. It has nothing to do with function of type, ie T for Trainer.

I believe that there are some deviations but basically as detailed on Wiki

Sukhoi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi)

'Sukhoi prototype designations are based on wing layout planform. Straight and swept wings are assigned the "S" prefix, while delta winged designs(including tailed-delta) have "T" for a designation prefix.'

For example the Su-27 was developed by Sukhoi as the T-10

Sukhoi Su-27 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi_Su-27)

The Su-47 was developed by Sukhoi as the S-32/37

Sukhoi Su-47 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi_Su-47)

The South Korean T-50

T-50 Golden Eagle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-50_Golden_Eagle)

TJ

Kerosene Kraut
29th Jan 2010, 11:15
These guys call it the PAK-FA.

Suchoi PAK-FA startet zum Erstflug - FLUG REVUE (http://www.flugrevue.de/de/militaer/fluggeraet-hersteller/suchoi-pak-fa-startet-zum-erstflug.18960.htm)

Okay like AWST, just noticed.

frostbite
29th Jan 2010, 14:23
More at New Russian stealth fighter makes first flight - Yahoo! News UK (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/22/20100129/tpl-uk-russia-fighter-81f3b62.html)

Rubicks13
29th Jan 2010, 15:27
Wow, this thing looks like a beast.

T-50 first flight video. (http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/blogs/defense/index.jsp?plckController=Blog&plckBlogPage=BlogViewPost&newspaperUserId=27ec4a53-dcc8-42d0-bd3a-01329aef79a7&plckPostId=Blog%3a27ec4a53-dcc8-42d0-bd3a-01329aef79a7Post%3a62cdc149-8332-4a4c-ac21-1eed722ff3ea&plckScript=blogScript&plckElementId=blogDest)

For a nice analysis - click here (http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/blogs/defense/index.jsp?plckController=Blog&plckBlogPage=BlogViewPost&newspaperUserId=27ec4a53-dcc8-42d0-bd3a-01329aef79a7&plckPostId=Blog%3a27ec4a53-dcc8-42d0-bd3a-01329aef79a7Post%3a021e786e-04be-426b-ad32-dcbb54b90d00&plckScript=blogScript&plckElementId=blogDest).

CUBE

TEEEJ
29th Jan 2010, 16:00
Close-up image showing possibly two internal weapon bays.

http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=181159&d=1264762555

TJ

beamender99
29th Jan 2010, 16:06
BBC News - Russia tests stealth fighter jet built by Sukhoi (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8486812.stm)

Wholigan
29th Jan 2010, 16:28
For goodness sake look before you start new threads!!!!!

Two-Tone-Blue
29th Jan 2010, 16:47
A good start ... ;)

The aircraft also retrieved and extracted a landing gear”, said Bogdan.

Morf
29th Jan 2010, 16:59
It looks like the YF-23 to me

Jackonicko
29th Jan 2010, 17:02
http://s005.radikal.ru/i209/1001/75/91147bc00acd.gif

Sukhoi T-50 'Flaptor'

cornish-stormrider
29th Jan 2010, 17:06
So how did we get the designs comrade?

Weelllll, tovarisch, we hacked into lockheed martin and stole all the plans we could find. We then got drunk and put together the bits we thought were sexy.

This is the result?

Da.

Well done, have 50 roubles..

ab33t
29th Jan 2010, 17:12
It looks like a few planes put togther

Saintsman
29th Jan 2010, 17:41
I wonder how the cost pans out compared to Dave?

HAWK21M
29th Jan 2010, 17:52
Any details on the countries involved in this project?
....

Two-Tone-Blue
29th Jan 2010, 17:57
Sadly, the beast is likely to be robust, serviceable and attract global overseas sales.

Unlike embargoed US kit or over-priced UK kit.

Sad, especially when you remember when the World bought Hunters and Canberras. :{

glad rag
29th Jan 2010, 19:50
This is going to shock the yanks, losing technical superiority, thinks this beast will eat f35's for breakfast stealth or no stealth.:cool:

PPLWannabe
29th Jan 2010, 20:13
More to the point, interesting timing from our red friends just as people are talking about scrapping the Typhoons...

The RAF couldn't get a better publicity tool if it tried, but will they use it?

wessex19
29th Jan 2010, 20:22
gladrag, the russians finally put a bird in the air and the americans are losing technical superiority!!!!haha stick to reading comics mate

MudRat_02
29th Jan 2010, 20:34
So how did we get the designs comrade?

Weelllll, tovarisch, we hacked into lockheed martin and stole all the plans we could find. We then got drunk and put together the bits we thought were sexy.

This is the result?

Da.

Well done, have 50 roubles..

It looks like it has alot more similarities to the Su series it is to replace than any current US design, in fact there really isn't many similarities it shares with any of them (except some superficial commonalities with th YF-23). But if it helps the masses cope with a threat to their air superiority, then sure: it was the brainchild of a bottle of vodka and some stolen plans :}

West Coast
29th Jan 2010, 23:57
Expect a PR offensive begging the DoD to buy more F22's.

Skittles
30th Jan 2010, 00:46
It is very sexy.

Do we have any published specifications on this thing yet? Of course the Russians do tend to be a little.....liberal.....with their specs.

aseanaero
30th Jan 2010, 01:28
It's funny how our perceptions of Russian technology have changed over the years , when Migs started arriving in the Australian warbird market I heard a lot of comments from engineers saying that in important structural areas the workmanship and design was first class but other less important areas the finish was agricultural , the Russians build tough and effective aircraft.

However for export customers buying new Su-27s or whatever the technical and spares support is lacking and expensive resulting in a lot of aircraft sitting on the ground waiting for parts.

SWBKCB
30th Jan 2010, 07:06
A clear runway with all that snow around. That's the technology we need...

Arty Fufkin
30th Jan 2010, 08:38
I thought that these days it is all about helicopters, AT and "boots on the ground."

Shame nobody told the russians.

tonker
30th Jan 2010, 09:34
I'll wait and see it crash at an airshow before worrying about it too much.

JFZ90
30th Jan 2010, 09:39
It looks really good - better looking than a Raptor.

The fins look very small in proportion to the overall a/c. As commented, some similarities to YF23. Looks a bit like they've had a half hearted attempt at Stealth though - looks like they stuck to the expensive equations at the front, then ran out of cash so it goes more Su-27 round the back.

Impressive stuff; makes Typhoon look a bit 1980s unfortunately.

sitigeltfel
30th Jan 2010, 09:52
Stealthy? Pah!

This is stealthy :}

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee201/sitigeltfel/StealthFighter.jpg

Coldwing
30th Jan 2010, 17:06
Let's be prepared for a 6th generation fighter jet, this time by USA.

(S37/Su47 is also 5th generation, MiG 1.41 maybe too)

dat581
30th Jan 2010, 23:21
I wonder what stability is like after the loss of an engine at max thrust with those tiny little fins?

Gnd
31st Jan 2010, 07:42
Are we going to buy these as they are probably cheaper, have the in-commers been shown the vid?
:rolleyes:

Tourist
31st Jan 2010, 12:51
dat581
If you read the articles as to why it only requires such small fins, your question will be answered.