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Pilot.Pete
30th Nov 2009, 17:59
What a show I was on the edge of my sofa.
I've spoken to a few pilots who fly from Norwich and none of then knew anything about it.
So

Was it a set up?

PP

silverknapper
30th Nov 2009, 18:02
Have a look on private flying mate, it's all on there. but yeah, a massive setup. Gutted!

anonythemouse
1st Dec 2009, 07:48
It's an entertainment show!
:ok:

FLY 7
1st Dec 2009, 07:53
Top Gear stunt goes to ground at Stratton Strawless - Norfolk Video News - EDP24 (http://www.edp24.co.uk/content/edp24/news/video/story.aspx?brand=EDPOnline&category=Video&itemid=NOED05%20Oct%202009%2015:02:41:300&tBrand=EDPOnline&tCategory=Video)

Flyting
1st Dec 2009, 12:08
Project Free TV - Zshare video (http://www.free-tv-video-online.info/player/zshare.php?id=69186176fe1a2d3b)

Pilot.Pete
1st Dec 2009, 20:59
Cracking TV even 2nd time round.

22clipper
1st Dec 2009, 22:11
Nothing special there, that's how all lighter-than-air craft land!

peterprobe
1st Dec 2009, 23:02
fecking funny, top show. Having flown a zep years ago ( yes i am ashamed to say that) it was a balloon in wolfs clothing. But not a bad idea hahaha

pvmw
2nd Dec 2009, 20:21
Have a look on private flying mate, it's all on there. but yeah, a massive setup. Gutted!
The entire programme is a con. I used to enjoy it, but they've run out of ideas - its time it was put down. Part of the same episode was about lancias. The missive below is circulating on t'net about the test of the "Stratos". I think it demonstrates the integrity(!!) of Top Gear these days. May flies, I wonder if he ever visits this place:-


The Hawk HF saga:

I was there at the top gear studio all day and saw everything outside the studio first hand. Because of my personal view of the programme I refused the offer of participating inside the studio. I was informed after the recording of what was said and shown by my friends from Noble Motorsport who were also there on the day.

We know that Nico volunteered his car at very short notice to the people at Top Gear who has asked for an Alitalia. Nico made it abundantly clear in his many emails to them that the car had been standing and had been rallied over the last few years and was a little 'distressed'. They arranged transportation for the car to be collected from Edinburgh and delivered to the studios where it was filmed with sticking brakes and showing the Stig getting out of the car after it had broken down. But they omitted to report that they had blown the engine. Then they transported the car back to Nico in Edinburgh declaring only trouble with the brakes and still not admitting to an engine problem and a broken door where they had pushed it so far back it had broken the check strap and cracked the fibre glass edge!

This is the point where I came in. I was asked by Nico if I could collect the car from him and put a new engine in which the BBC would pay for (after liaising with the BBC they agreed to pay for a new engine and my transportation from Edinburgh to Dunsfold via my workshop). Due to the short timeframe in which I had to work on the car I had to drop everything to collect the car from Edinburgh.

Early start next morning to load the car and all tools for a shake down test at Bruntingthorpe. After a couple of slow bedding-in laps, checking temps and levels, etc (this was the first time that the car had run). The speed was gradually built up and everything seemed OK. My biggest concern was that Nico was unable to keep the car on the track for very long resulting in some spectacular spins across the grass and once into the tyres, narrowly avoiding damage. Owing to Nico's time constraints no adjustments were made to the suspension in any way - setting of shocks, tyre pressures, tracking etc.

On Wednesday, the day of filming, I had to be at the studios by 8am which meant leaving home at 4.30am.
After off loading the car on its slick tyres I went through the start procedue with them and handed over the keys. I then went to park up my truck and trailer away from the studio but with a good vantage point of the test track. At 9am the editor came to ask me if I wouldn't mind fitting the 2nd set of wet weather tyres as it was pouring with rain and he said that they wouldn't get far on the slicks - I duly obliged. Then this week's Stig driver came round(Andy something, I think) and got in the car, started the engine revving it's nuts off making it bounce off the rev limiter. To which he remarked "I thought I was pressing the brake" - I explained to him that the brake is the next one along and the clutch the next one after that. Off he shot.

The car flashed down the track and to me it sounded as though it was firing on 5 cylinders but it was going so fast and it was raining so hard it was difficult to tell.

For the next hour and a half I watched through binoculars as they filmed the supposed one power lap. In fact he drives two or three laps and then the camera team move to the next corner and he does two or three more laps and so on. In all he must have done 30+ laps. Then he did the supposed spinning out of control on the power lap. I must admit though, he is a very good driver in the way that he provoked and recovered the spins - or maybe they were just his practice ones. From this you can see how contrived it all was.
My view is that from the outset this was the direction that the programme was going to take. Even if the car had performed spectacularly they would have still slated it.

Nico went in to the studio filming and immediately expressed his anger and concern over the way everything had been handled and portrayed. Including Clarksons comments - a great looking car but a crap build (or words to that effect).
My emails and telephone conversations with the BBC were met with 'media talk' and I was told that they were going to show the footage and nothing was going to change. Legal action by Gerry and Nico to remove all footage of the car and all references to it have just been sidestepped by the BBC.

Sky Sports
2nd Dec 2009, 20:31
Like the way it was edited to make you think that May was flying the airship. Didn't think he had airships on his ppl!
You could tell it was a joke from his flight plan. Dorset first - no, change of plan Kent - no, change of plan, pop up to Suffolk - oh dear, overshot Suffolk and trash Norwich airspace.

Senior Pilot
3rd Dec 2009, 09:01
Top Gear: BBC show accused of faking 'flying caravan stunt'

Top Gear, the popular BBC show, has been accused of faking a stunt featuring presenter James May flying a caravan-style airship across Britain.


The BBC2’s show’s episode, which aired on Sunday night, featured a segment where May, 46, appeared to accidentally stray over Norwich airport, which lead to a police helicopter being deployed.
He was later seen crashing to the ground, shouting "mayday, mayday" in panic after the craft was dragged across the ground.
But professionals involved in the segment claimed the sequence was a "set-up".
Despite viewers having been given the appearance that May had appeared to be alone in the flying caravan, a professional pilot, Chris Sanger-Davies, had undertaken some of the more difficult manoeuvres.
Instead of the appearance of being an accident, which happened to be caught on camera, insiders said the whole episode had been carefully planned months.
The show’s producers had got airport clearance to stage the scene while a private helicopter firm provided the "police" chopper.
Steve O'Brian, Chief Pilot at Sterling helicopters, who supplied the 999 helicopter said the balloon was delivered to the airport on the back of a truck.
"The whole event was set up, it was all arranged more than a month before it was filmed,” he said.
"The programme had been completely scripted, there was no real emergency - we were hired to play along.
"There would be no way someone would be able to fly over the country unless it was all staged.”
Mr Sanger-Davies, from Lindstrand Balloons, added: "The landing was not a crash. It obviously looked more dramatic on the TV - it was all a controlled accident.
"No one was in danger of getting hurt at any point, which was the impression that a lot of people got from the programme.
A Norfolk police spokeswoman said: "We did know the event was going on, we were warned a couple of months prior,” she said.
Top Gear producer Andy Wilman said May had been helped by another pilot to follow flying regulations.
He admitted the film had been shot over a period of three days and the airport scene had been pre-planned.
"The airport did know we were coming, it was a knockabout part of an entertainment film,” he said.
"The landing was a proper crash, it was an accident that was under control.
"This was purely entertainment and not taken seriously, James did fly and a crash did happen.”
He added: "It was intended as a fun film, it wasn't a race or review where we have to be impeccable with accuracy and above board.
"It was a tongue in cheek segment and I think people will have seen it as that - it was a piece of knockabout fun


Daily Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/news/6714162/Top-Gear-BBC-show-accused-of-faking-flying-caravan-stunt.html)

JimBall
3rd Dec 2009, 10:31
At the last count nearly 400 readers of the D Mail had posted views on the story. 99.9% are telling the DM to shut up and behave.

Standby for a pre-Christmas rush of Daily Mail reveals : Bambi never existed, Spooks aren't really spies and, as for the man with the white beard, red coat and reindeer.........

3rd Dec 2009, 16:04
Not sure why anyone should be surprised at the 'scripting' shock - surely no-one believes all of their 'races' which always end up with a dramatic and close finish ever really happened that way.

The target audience for the show is 14 year old boys who will hero worship JC and the gang without question and most of it is harmless entertainment but it's not real - it's TV.

AirScrew
3rd Dec 2009, 18:08
May may be a pilot, but he has put us all down with this stunt. I know its just television entertainment, and I know that the filming was fixed (multiple locations, days, tie ropes, etc). But James May is just a pillo(w)k.

rotorboater
3rd Dec 2009, 18:28
Next thing you will be telling me Tom Cruise didnt fly in Top Gun!

Captain-Random
3rd Dec 2009, 19:23
Next thing you will be telling me Tom Cruise didnt fly in Top Gun!

Really? Thanks for trashing my childhood dreams ha:}

Whirlygig
3rd Dec 2009, 19:25
May may be a pilot, but he has put us all down with this stunt.Why's that then? :}

Cheers

Whirls

Special 25
3rd Dec 2009, 19:51
Well watching those three tossers drive through one of Europe's poorest villages in 3 cars worth probably half a million quid, got my back up - They might as well have been waving wads of cash! But sadly it became clear 3 or 4 series ago that everything is set up. Just trying to get an Airship (or balloon in disguise) from Cardington to Norwich would probably take several hours on its own.

Shame, as the simple idea of a Caravan gondola under an airship started off with promise. Bring back William Woolard, Quentin Wilson and Noel Edmonds !!

r44raven
3rd Dec 2009, 19:52
Is it just me or has anyone else noticed that Top Gear is morphing into Last of the Summer Wine - being the story of 3 elderly males having childish adventures - with a slightly younger target audience and occasionally involving cars? :}

ShyTorque
3rd Dec 2009, 20:04
No!

I don't watch it.

206Fan
3rd Dec 2009, 21:18
I shall be watching the three Top Gear Stooges perform their realistic acts this coming sunday in Dublin. The tickets wern't cheap so it better be good.