AceOfHearts
22nd Nov 2009, 18:37
Dear all,
Having completed all my training in my UK, I have moved to Bangladesh for a Dash-8 position. The airline will provide the TR course (though I will finace part of it).
The difficulty I am facing is that the Bangladeshi CAA require me to get a Bangladeshi CPL for which they have laid some prerequisites. They have recently changed the requirement. Before it was just an Air Law paper and you got your licence.
They have asked me to do an Air Law exam, A "Type technical" paper on a single engine aircraft and 6 hours of flying on that aircraft followed by 1 hour flight test.
Being a third world country, things are not as smooth and standardised (where every one follows the rules) as they are in developed countries or the environment I am used to.
I am curious as to the validity of their request for me to sit a "Type technical" exam. I have given thought to what the ICAO states on this particular requirement, and thinking if I should have a word with the CAA (which is possible) to remove this requirement. If I can put a valid case forward its always possible they will change their requirements!
Basically, ICAO Annex 1 provides "Class ratings" and "Type ratings". A class rating basically covers a range of aircraft of similiar performance and interface which does not require a signficant differences in training to transfer between aircraft of the same class. A Type Rating on the other hand is for aircraft which requires significant amount of type specific training. Single Engine piston aircraft are all put to one bracket and considered one class and are covered by a class rating (you dont need a type-rating to fly a 152 or a warrior)
Their idea seems to be as follows. They want to issue a Bangladeshi CPL based on a type rating on a single engine piston a/c (the exam is a type technical paper for Piper charokee [a/c id prefer] and the 7 hours flying with test is on the charokee). The arguments I can see for this are:
1) There should not be a type technical paper requirement. ie. The charokee is covered in a class-rating for all single engine piston. The whole CPL I have is already based on this class and I should not have to do a Type qualification on one a/c to get a Bangladeshi licence.
2) If I have to get a "type-rating" on the charokee to get a Bangladeshi licence (all so I can then get my Dash-8 type rating endoresed on it)....then why cant I do the same by getting on with the Dash-8 type rating then get the Bangladeshi licence based on this i.e. if the issuing of the Bdeshi CPL requires it to be based on a "type rating" then why not on Dash-8 TR?
Hope I am making some sense. The thing is...if I can put a logical argument across them, I am sure I can get one of these obstacles out of my way - to me it doesnt make sense why I need to sit a type technical written test on a charokee (i never had to do a "type technical" in all my training in UK for CPL/ME/IR). I need a more sound and well rounded argument from people here who have better understanding of what the ICAO says than me (this is an ICAO contracting state though I know its never compulsory for a state to obey ICAO).
I have an appointment at the CAA on Tuesday and I want to go in with a coherent explenation to atleast why I should not have to sit that charokee "type technical" paper. There proposition on what I need to do felt hasty so I am more inclined to 'challenge' it).
Hope some one out there can help. Feel free to ask for more information from me and I will clarify it. Hopefully I will get some replies within the next few hours!!!
Thanks in advance
Kind Regards.
Having completed all my training in my UK, I have moved to Bangladesh for a Dash-8 position. The airline will provide the TR course (though I will finace part of it).
The difficulty I am facing is that the Bangladeshi CAA require me to get a Bangladeshi CPL for which they have laid some prerequisites. They have recently changed the requirement. Before it was just an Air Law paper and you got your licence.
They have asked me to do an Air Law exam, A "Type technical" paper on a single engine aircraft and 6 hours of flying on that aircraft followed by 1 hour flight test.
Being a third world country, things are not as smooth and standardised (where every one follows the rules) as they are in developed countries or the environment I am used to.
I am curious as to the validity of their request for me to sit a "Type technical" exam. I have given thought to what the ICAO states on this particular requirement, and thinking if I should have a word with the CAA (which is possible) to remove this requirement. If I can put a valid case forward its always possible they will change their requirements!
Basically, ICAO Annex 1 provides "Class ratings" and "Type ratings". A class rating basically covers a range of aircraft of similiar performance and interface which does not require a signficant differences in training to transfer between aircraft of the same class. A Type Rating on the other hand is for aircraft which requires significant amount of type specific training. Single Engine piston aircraft are all put to one bracket and considered one class and are covered by a class rating (you dont need a type-rating to fly a 152 or a warrior)
Their idea seems to be as follows. They want to issue a Bangladeshi CPL based on a type rating on a single engine piston a/c (the exam is a type technical paper for Piper charokee [a/c id prefer] and the 7 hours flying with test is on the charokee). The arguments I can see for this are:
1) There should not be a type technical paper requirement. ie. The charokee is covered in a class-rating for all single engine piston. The whole CPL I have is already based on this class and I should not have to do a Type qualification on one a/c to get a Bangladeshi licence.
2) If I have to get a "type-rating" on the charokee to get a Bangladeshi licence (all so I can then get my Dash-8 type rating endoresed on it)....then why cant I do the same by getting on with the Dash-8 type rating then get the Bangladeshi licence based on this i.e. if the issuing of the Bdeshi CPL requires it to be based on a "type rating" then why not on Dash-8 TR?
Hope I am making some sense. The thing is...if I can put a logical argument across them, I am sure I can get one of these obstacles out of my way - to me it doesnt make sense why I need to sit a type technical written test on a charokee (i never had to do a "type technical" in all my training in UK for CPL/ME/IR). I need a more sound and well rounded argument from people here who have better understanding of what the ICAO says than me (this is an ICAO contracting state though I know its never compulsory for a state to obey ICAO).
I have an appointment at the CAA on Tuesday and I want to go in with a coherent explenation to atleast why I should not have to sit that charokee "type technical" paper. There proposition on what I need to do felt hasty so I am more inclined to 'challenge' it).
Hope some one out there can help. Feel free to ask for more information from me and I will clarify it. Hopefully I will get some replies within the next few hours!!!
Thanks in advance
Kind Regards.