Arn Comp

[WTSPT]

I thought it might be interesting to find out the oldest active ARN number...

There is one flaw to this; I imagine those with arn's that are less than five digits long would most probably not even look at this sight.:} But lets give it a shot anyway; you might know someone who knows someone.

[Peter Fanelli]

ummmmm, I'm not going to give everyone my license number. But thanks for asking.
You might do better to ask for peoples first flight dates.
April 16th 1978
Grumman TR-2
VH-MDL

[john_tullamarine]

.. or one might just indicate the approximate ARN .. in my case in the 6700s.

[Horatio Leafblower]

...are we talking active PPRuNers or active pilots?

If we're talking most senior ARN: If I had my first logbook here I'd dig out Russ Evan's ARN. I think you will find it is between Russ, Cec Sly and Ken Andrews.

...I think Jack Curtis is a pup compared to those particular gents? :ok:

I would also single out old Alan from Hoxton Park - but he retired as of the end of last year :{

[Bullethead]

A lap around the hill in Griffith in a C185 in Aug 1964 :ok: and now 18,500 hours later . . . . . . . . . . . .

Regards,
BH.

[Joker 10]

13979 November 1963

[Flopt]

After a slightly bizarre [DDAC & CFI one P Orton] TIF on 16/8/1965 and a SPL no. in the 4 thousands.....I was issued with 001*** in 1982 , when I finaly got serious , so I don't think the actual number has much relevance now.

It may have been when people like Jack Bange were still alive...someone told me his was #0027.....

Flopt

[djpil]

ARNs were invented sometime after I started flying. SPL of January '67 is 399**. PPL-A of March '68 is 226**. Neither looks like my ARN.
Col is still flying GA, started flying long before I was born. Was at his 90th party recently.
Aub is the 3rd instructor in my log book, he taught me aerobatics later. Was at his 80th party in 2005. Still instructing RAA and flies GA with occasional aeros in an Aerobat & Decathlon.

[Unhinged]

A reasonably well-known pilot, who I think reads these pages occasionally, has an ARN under 500. Earlier this month I was on a flight test with another whose ARN is under 2000. Both have been in the industry for many years, and continue to be very active professional pilots.

But I have heard that ARNs were re-issued at some time. Anyone know when or why ?

[WTSPT]

This is fantastic guys. I think its great that we can recognise those whom have contributed to this industry for more than 40 years. Good on ya fella's and keep them coming. :ok:

[Capt Fathom]

But I have heard that ARNs were re-issued at some time. Anyone know when or why ?

Maybe when the Authority of the day was dragged into the computer world.

After some investigation of my old green license book....

Both my Student & PPL had different 'license' numbers on them. They were issued in '75 & '76. These were subsequently crossed out (by DoT) and substituted with my ARN.

My CPL was issued in '77 with the new ARN on it!

So one could deduce that sometime between '76 and '77, they changed to the new system.

It was also around that time there was a name change from the Department of Civil Aviation DCA, to the Department of Transport DoT.

[climingflightlevels]

I have a few sticky bits in my logbook with an ARN less than 000450 and that person is still a well respected and active pilot. I heard after asking that the four or five number ARN was canned and new RANDOM numbers reissued to those holders due to it approaching the limit of numbers able to be allocated. Not sure exactly when this happened though. Anyone else heard similar?

[Peter Fanelli]

Some of the earliest ARN's are somewhat irrelevant as they were issued to people who had an interest in aviation but were not active participants. When the ARN was introduced those of us who had a pilot license or I guess LAME license or even ATC license, our licesne number became our ARN. The ARN was used to create a reference number for other people such as aircraft owners(non pilot), thus you would probably find the likes of banks and finance companies and other businesses also with ARN numbers.


Just reread what I wrote and decide I could say it all better just by saying the ARN was created to provide a reference number for entities who needed to be contacted regarding aviation matters, but didn't hold a license of any kind, such as non flying aircraft owners.

[ForkTailedDrKiller]

SPL 67### (1973)
PPL 30### (1973)
CPL 125### (1984) ARN
NZ CPL 4### (1984)

Dr :8

[RENURPP]

1st solo was in July 1978

[sixtiesrelic]

My Student license in 1960 was 19,019
PPL 12,03x in 1961
CPL 687* in 1968,
ATPL 13** in 1970.
Flt radiotelephone operator license 372* in 1961
The old man's PPL 2501 gained about 1938, No "B " or commercial number recorded.
ATPL 173 Gained maybe 1940
Yet Senior commercial is 1875. Issued much later?? seeing as his PPL was called an A license and Commercial a B license back in the 1930s
Flt Radio telephone operator's license is 864 no idea of it's issue date as this license I have is a second third or forth one he was issued.
His last renewal after retiring in June 1975 was Private pilot license in 1979and didn't have the new silly bloody number stamped over the oldies.

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g32/sixtiesrelic/Blicense.jpg

[Atlas Shrugged]

What amazing photographs. 70 years old!

Just out of curiosity, what was the Altitude Test?

[Tmbstory]

This brings back the odd memory.

Student Pilot Licence 14*** Issued 1957
Private Pilot Licence 10*** Issued 1959
Commercial Pilot Licence 44** Issued !960
Senior Commercial Lic.10** Issued 1969
Airline Transport Licence 006*** 1990
Flight Radio Operator Lic.28** 1960 10 words per minute
Aircraft Radio Certificate of Proficiency 23** 1960

Tmb

[sixtiesrelic]

They're scans of the logbook.
No idea what an altitude test was. I'll have to get the guy who has my uncle's logbooks to scan them for comparrison.
He started his flying in 1933 or so and was in New Guinea flying for all the big companies from 1935.
He and my father studied for latter exams together (Astro nav for one) and the old brother was ****ty because my father was Charlie while he was William so the younger brother got the lower nuumber.