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kris15
9th Nov 2009, 05:02
Hi

Was thinking of starting to do my PPL training for becoming a professional pilot and was currently looking at some of the flying schools + aeroclubs in the Auckland area. Was wondering if there were any pilot training organistions that the Airlines peferred in New Zealand. Someone said that the airlines looked for the quality of training you have had as oppose to the hours you have. Im not trying to say that airlines would employ someone who and had the best training in the world but only had 500 hours but im trying to say that if someone had 2000+ hours and good quality training they would get employed instead of somone who had the same or more amount of hours but had not as good training.
So another question Do the airlines look at the quality of training you as had as much as they do with the hours and ratings you have?. If anyone has any suggestions please post it will be gratefully appreiacted.

minimum_wage
9th Nov 2009, 07:46
They don't care who you train with. The training with any school is to the same CAA standards so it should be a much of a muchness. Some may have instructors that instill in you a better sense of professionalism and airmanship but I wouldn't get hung up on this idea you have. It's what you do after you have finished your training that will determine if you get an airline job, and determine the type of pilot you become.

Airlines that you will get your first job with want to see Total Time consisting of mutli pic and multi total, total pic, instrument time. They also want to know you are not a d:mad:head and they could sit next to you all day in an enclosed space.

Instructing will get you plenty of hours and after a few years hopefully some multi instructing. Or try and get into GA and get some multi that way.

the air up there
9th Nov 2009, 09:43
pretty much what he said.

Cypher
9th Nov 2009, 12:34
Hmmmm, the RNZAF seems to be a preferred Airline Aviation Training Organisation.....

will only cost you 10-12 years of your life... but you'll probably have a blast....

waren9
9th Nov 2009, 13:17
.................in a kingair........................

mattyj
9th Nov 2009, 21:45
Kaitaia Aero Club are a fast track to the airlines and the bar goes off on Friday nights

DeltaT
10th Nov 2009, 01:20
Hmmmm, the RNZAF seems to be a preferred Airline Aviation Training Organisation.....

Yup, Air Nelson took 2 with only 400hrs each, so there's the proof to that one!

kris15
10th Nov 2009, 02:37
cool thanks for that was looking at Auckland Aero club, Anyone have any info/exerinces that is not on their website.

Steve Zissou
10th Nov 2009, 03:26
Yup - knew someone that trained at the Kaitaia Aero Club years ago. He's .... still working behind the bar :rolleyes:

SystemsAreGo
10th Nov 2009, 08:58
cool thanks for that was looking at Auckland Aero club, Anyone have any info/exerinces that is not on their website.

Like the previous posters have pointed out, a CAA standard is a CAA standard. However, the way you get there is very different. Some places will have you more than ready for your flight test right on the minimums, other places will have less interest in your development and pull another 100hrs out of your pocket before putting you up for a test.

The Auckland Aero Club is a great place to learn. Good rates, good instructors, good club atmosphere, range of aircraft etc. Not sure if the bar goes off as hard as the Kaitia Aero Club tho :}

J D
10th Nov 2009, 13:38
"Hmmmm, the RNZAF seems to be a preferred Airline Aviation Training Organisation....."

This very true in the US.... Military trained pilots are often hired with much fewer hours just based on their training. Some Airlines/Cargo Carriers are friendlier to the ex-mil guys then others.

Cheers,
JD

XRNZAF
11th Nov 2009, 06:21
as everyone has already said, airlines don't care where you train. And if any training organisation tries to tell you otherwise.They're lying....

P.S I know of at least 2 pilots that trained with Kaitaia Aero club who are flying jets for air nz.... and the c cat instructor up there at the moment has 15,000hrs of ag experience. Actually not a silly proposition in my view! :ok:

XRNZAF

kris15
11th Nov 2009, 19:13
cool thanks for all your help
Was looking into ardmore folying school and auckland aero club. Has anyone had anything to do with them? eg training or employment and what did you think about it?

remoak
11th Nov 2009, 21:17
Hmmmm, the RNZAF seems to be a preferred Airline Aviation Training Organisation.....

Can't think why, it's pretty much just an Aero Club these days... although I suppose a few hours on the mighty King Air might be useful for Eagle aspirants.

Surprised Air Nelson took those RNZAF guys, after all they probably didn't have 50 hours recent NZ IF time... :}

waren9
11th Nov 2009, 21:34
At 400 hrs, I'd say they probably did!:ok:

Got yours yet remoak?

remoak
12th Nov 2009, 02:39
Do any RNZAF pilots do IF, or do they just tool around at low level wasting the taxpayers dollars? :E

Nah I went to a company that isn't as short-sighted and parochial as Air Nelson (aka Aero Club Old Boys Association). And I get to fly something much nicer than those doggy little turboprops. Flew on one yesterday - fine if you like vibration and noise. Only decent thing about it was the hostie - she was really cute! :ok::ok::ok:

Mr. Hat
12th Nov 2009, 03:09
Airline preferred training organisations?

Airlines focus on what you did after your training and more to the point how you go on the day. Don't waste your time and energy trying to pick a place that might give you a competitive edge. This topic is the same as the Aviation degree topic. Pure marketing rubbish.

J D
12th Nov 2009, 15:38
There are plenty of companies here in the US that promise a guranteed interview after completeing their training course....BS!... All you achieve is a sh!tload of debt and not enough income to have a hope of paying it off.

Wyle E Coyote
12th Nov 2009, 15:59
You're not going to get an airline job with 200 hours anyway, so it doesn't really matter.

if anything, the best indicator of being ripped off is if any of their advertising paraphernalia mentions that they are the first step to an airline job, or that their students are 'preferred' by the airlines, or any other advertising spin. These places are more interested in the contents of your wallet, than your future prospects. We call them sausage factories..... and they just keep on pumping out pilots.....

Having hired newbies in the past, our entry citeria was (in order);

Is he a tool?
Can he drink a beer?
After drinking a beer does he become a tool?
Can he fly a plane?

where you trained might have given us something to rib you about, but that's about it.