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[Davi]

Hi boys
I've a question, I'm gonna decide where I gotta do my MCC:

- Do you guys think that is better do the MCC into a LEVEL D Full Motion sim than into a normal FNPT II ?

- Do you think that is really useful ?

- Do you think that the JOC is necessary or that is a waste of money?

-What about MCC/JOC at OAA (around 3500€ Generic FNPT II 734)?
-What about Ryanair (MCC around 6500€ Level D)?
-What about Lufthansa Training Center (MCC about 5400€ Level D)?

Thanks
Mat.:ok:

[ford cortina]

Done to death on here, have a look at this:
http://www.pprune.org/professional-pilot-training-includes-ground-studies/222133-multi-crew-co-operation-courses-mcc-providers-facts.html

or this,
http://www.pprune.org/professional-pilot-training-includes-ground-studies/4643-mcc-joc.html

For the record, I did a MCC on a trristar, people I know went on a FNPT 2, there is no difference we all fly jets now. If I did it again, I would have saved the money, you will get to play with a full motion sim soon enough. The MCC is about working together, not flying a jet aircraft.

As for a JOC, well again I did one, just as I stated the type rating it helped, but I have friends who did not and they had no problem either.

If you are doing a JOC do it on the aircraft you are going to fly and just before you start the sim section of your type rating.
Good luck.

[Davi]

Thanks great advice!! I'm oriented towards OAA, the price/hours is optimum compared with the others.

But I don't understand why, where I did my Integrated ATPL at FTE Jerez the MCC/JOC costs around 8000€ in a 737NG Level B and at OAA It costs HALF - around 4000€ !!!!

[rogerg]

But I don't understand why, where I did my Integrated ATPL at FTE Jerez the MCC/JOC costs around 8000€ in a 737NG Level B and at OAA It costs HALF - around 4000€ !!!!

As things have gone a little quiet, they are lowering the price to keep the sims and instructors busy.

[mackey]

Hey Ford,

We certainely enjoyed the MCC on the L1011 with Shortarse!! Shame it caught fire......not to blame for that :=!

Davi,

MCC at EAAC in Bournemouth well worth the money as they have 727, 737 and 747 sims...........oh and a smoke damaged L1011!!

Thoughily enjoyed the course after pulling my hair out with the MEIR :ugh:, the other good thing with EAAC is the fact that flight crews are using the sims for their recurrent checks, so good people to talk to in the break.

M.

[Rudi747]

at OAA mcc+joc cost around 3300€ on 737-400

[P-T]

Out of personal experience the MCC/JOC at OAA was fantastic. Really enjoyable and prepared me for the TR believe it or not!

OAA would get my vote every time. Especially from what I can see on your costings list that the JOC adn MCC are cheaper that just the MCC in other places therefore much better vlaue for money.

[Liftboy]

MMC on Kingair B200 FNPT II @ FSB Berlin/Germany 1680€

If you need a partner, pm me....

Regards,
Simon

[flyer101]

Theres loads of other threads on here about MCC, but I can reccomend CRM Aviation at cranfield. Ive been told the course was well put together, good instruction and quite a nice simulator too. I think its still being run at £1499 too, which is cheaper than when I did my own! :sad:

[JulietWiskey]

Does anyone have information about the cost of a combines MCC and JOC at Oxford this year? and how many time you spend on a combined MCC/JOC?

Thanks, JW

New Info;

Got info from OAA yesterday; 737-400, 13 days for a combined MCC-JOC, price in Euro aprox. 4435 EUR.

MCC at Jerez FTE 10 days, 737NG, 3170 EUR, acomodation and three meals a day for 10 days; 620 EUR. Could be an advantage over Oxford (when you are from another country like me).

Cheers,

JW