View Full Version : what do you think about my c.v ? :(


7oodaz
4th November 2009, 20:42
hii, iam an egyptian pilot ( just graduated ) , please tell me wht do u think abt this c.v ? please give me advices if there is something wrong or bad ! , thanks



Mahmoud Mohamed Mohamed Abd EL-Latief
Email: *****@<hidden>***com
12 Melsa Buildings, Ard El Golf, Nasr City, Cairo
Telephone: (202)24xxxxxx – 010xxxxxx

Objective

--Seeking for the challenging position as a Co-Pilot.

Qualifications
-- Commercial Pilot License ( Single Engine Land )
-- Instrument Rating
-- G1000 Glass Cockpit Rating (49 Actual Flying Hours on C-172 NAVIII G1000)

Education
Academy: Egyptian Aviation Academy.
Faculty: Misr Flying College.
Course: Commercial Pilot License Single Engine Land, & Instrument Rating
Graduation: 1/11/2009

Skills
Language Skills:
- Arabic: Mother Tongue Language
- English: Excellent Command
- French: Fair Command

Additional Information

Gender: Male Nationality: Egyptian

Birth Date: 31/5/1990 Military Status: Delayed



Flintstone
4th November 2009, 21:35
Total hours?

Instrument time?

I appreciate they might not yet be big numbers yet but without those not many people will give you a second glance.

7oodaz
4th November 2009, 21:43
but my time is the license minimums :S , should i write them ?

PoloJamie
4th November 2009, 22:10
I would. Any prospective employer is going to want to know how many hours you have in total. Also, seeing as you've recently qualified I would put the date you attained your CPL, your IR etc.

Edit: you have put the date you qualified.

Spéir
4th November 2009, 22:58
I may be missing something, but do you just have a single engine CPL and IR? And if so, are there many jobs as co-pilot for such aircraft? I don't know anything about aviation in Egypt so perhaps it is very different from Europe, or perhaps even you are looking for more of a safety pilot position than an actual flight crew role. I just think if you are looking for a job in Europe with this CV, that it would be somewhat unclear for those reasons. But as I've said, things may be very different in Egypt, you know better! :)

BigNumber
4th November 2009, 22:58
Military status: Delayed

This might be a potential problem?

Akrapovic
4th November 2009, 23:59
G1000 Glass Cockpit Rating
Is that a rating??!
No academic qualifications?
What kind of a job are you aiming at? There's not many out there for a single engine rated commercial pilot. . . .

x933
5th November 2009, 00:25
That would end up in the bin in quite short order. Where's your total time. Experience? When did you qualify? Where has it been done? Sell youself man - life experiences, aspirations (Short of getting into the RHS, which is pretty much a granted)! ICAO Language level or whatever it's called 49 Actual hours? As opposed to what - playing on MSFS?

4/10 Must try harder.

Flintstone
5th November 2009, 00:32
Bit harsh folks. What do most first draft CV's look like? Particularly in a second language.

Go write one of yours in arabic and ask 7oodaz how you did ;)

powerstall
5th November 2009, 01:55
Easy guys! He's just asking for advice :E not a demolition job on his C.V. :eek:

Founder
5th November 2009, 05:35
Hey

Dont forget about the other things you've done in your life, most companies are not only looking for a good pilot, they are looking for a good colleague as well.

And the most important I consider when I look at hiring people are the references, they should be stated... I don't like having to ask for them, so state the name, profession and contact details of your references. I'd also like to see a personal reference from someone who has nothing to do with aviation, for example if you've worked in a store or something like that?

Regarding your language, I'd like to see what kind of grade you got in school when you studied the language, you dont have to write the exact language but you could write above average, top grade etc...

Its good to show that you have been active in your life also, perhaps a breakdown of your life shown on a time-line of what you've done, for example:

2002: worked as xxxx
2003: studied this and that
2004: xxxxx

Kind Regards
Tim

mad_jock
5th November 2009, 10:20
You lot are subjecting western standards to something thats not Western.

I recently saw my CV converted to ME standard in arabic and after the first day of wondering why the hell they need my dad's details it became blindingly obvious that things don't work the same way as at home.

The Military Status is a fact of life in most country's in the world It would probably be best to get that out of the way. I have worked with pilots in Europe who have had that little gem hanging over there head and it creates no end of problems with employers.

Although to note although poor by UK standards of CV that is exactly the quality of some CV's that are used by native English speakers to apply for their first job in the UK with British company's.

7oodaz
5th November 2009, 12:10
guys , first of all , military service in egypt is not an option , its Mandatory ,
secondly , only 2 airlines in egypt ask for the multi engine rating , , the national airlines ( egyptair ) doesnt ask about it ! ,
and about the ICAO level exam its scheduled for me next week and i'll go for it , so i still dont know wht level i will get
,
about the glass cockpit rating , i dunno if its a rating or not , but i think its a good experience , i want to put it in my c.v but i dont know how to write it !
please give me advices , iam a zero hour pilot , and i have high school only !
thanks :)

eagleflier
5th November 2009, 17:54
FLYING EXPERIENCE
Date Last Flown
Beechcraft Baron 55 19.1 hours 23-02-2009
Cessna 172 194.2 hours 31-12-2008
Frasca 142 (FSTD) 21.6 hours 03-01-2009

Total PIC Hours 120.1 hours
Total Night Hours 28.1 hours
Total Instrument Hours 61.3 hours
Actual Instrument Hours 18 hours



Guess you could list your hours in the above format.

Neptunus Rex
5th November 2009, 18:37
All of the above, plus two points on style. You come across in your posts as capable, enthusiastic and good at English. Try to get that across in the narrative on your CV. In addition, use 'align left' or 'justify' rather than 'align centre.' That way your CV will look neater and be easier to read.

Bon chance, heureux atterrissages!

Neppie

:ok:

3bars
5th November 2009, 20:18
PM'ed you a template

7oodaz
5th November 2009, 23:09
thank you guys for ur help , i really appreciate that :)

7oodaz
6th November 2009, 23:07
Guys i Edited it :D please tell me if anything is wrong .


Mahmoud Mohamed Mohamed Abd EL-Latief
Email: *****@<hidden>
12 Melsa Buildings, Ard El Golf, Nasr City, Cairo
Telephone: (202)**** – 0103***8

Objective

--Seeking for the challenging position as a Co-Pilot.

Qualifications

-- High School Diploma (National)
-- Commercial Pilot License Single Engine Land with Instrument Rating.

Flight Experience

Actual Flying Time
Aircraft Types: Cessna 152, Cessna 172 NAVII, Cessna 172 G1000 Glass Cockpit, Commander 114B
Total PIC Hours: 76 hours
Total Night Hours: 14 hours
Total Instrument Hours: 28.4 hours
Total Hours Flown: 192.7

Flight Training Device Time
FTD Types: PCATED, Frasca 142, Frasca 141, AST 3000 (Multiengine), G1000 Glass Cockpit (Multiengine)
Total FTD hours: 61.5 hours

Skills

Language Skills:
- Arabic: Mother Tongue Language
- English: Excellent Command
- French: Fair Command

Personnel Details

Gender: Male Nationality: Egyptian

Birth Date: 31/5/1990 Military Status: Delayed

BigNumber
6th November 2009, 23:37
The statement : Military Status Delayed has caught my eye.

Does this mean that you have an outstanding service obligation?

This might be of concern to some employers if they suspect that you could be called to duty after investing in your training?

Surely this statement should be either removed or clarified.

I wish you luck in your job hunting.

BN

flyhighspeed300
8th November 2009, 12:16
you gone from no information about your flying career too, too much

i guess you only want to flying a 2 man flight crew, not single pilot operations from your c.v
"--Seeking for the challenging position as a Co-Pilot." it sounds as if your not confirdent flying on your own. (single man crew aircraft, or be a good leader as a further captain)

+'s good you got the TT (total time, hours flown)
+'s good you got PIC time in.

night hours get rid of, no need, to much information ( to get a night rating, you will need a cpl rating any way)

i guess "only from your c.v that you havn't got a current class 1 medical that you need" ? went is it expriy date?

C.V no need to list every aircraft you flown, looks as if you havn't flown lots of aircraft. why not say if you have a Currrent SEP rating, which covers all of them and a current MEP & current IR-SPA-ME. if your not current on them aircraft in your licence book, say that you have passed them.

get rid of all the simulator, type too much information again.

why not say your +'s again. e.g you have flown how many class cockpit hours ? and say it also includes the sim time. which will increase your number of hours.

at the end you let yourself down again, (c.v)

"Language Skills: - Arabic: Mother Tongue Language,- English: Excellent Command - French: Fair Command"

its another one of your +'s again. "why tell me of personal grades", why not just list them!! why do i need to know how good you are at specking the language?, if i was a company i would just want you to know that you can speck them..


"Gender: Male Nationality: Egyptian, Birth Date: 31/5/1990 Military Status: Delayed"
why do i need to know this information? i start thinking and asking questions in my head about this information. (no use what so ever) get rid it..

now the bits you not put into your c.v, which you need to add


Profile, are you hard, working, team player??? etc
Hobbies & interests, what do you get up to in your own time??????
e.g what aviation magazines you read!!!!
More qualifications, list a few, even if non aviation related, and maths, sicence subject. do not put the grades in if they are not good!!!
references, e.g training places!!!, any others if nessauary, to say that your a good pilot
Any employment history, where do you work, now, even if non-aviation related..

hope that helps

Flintstone
8th November 2009, 13:09
flyhighspeed

With all due respect how much experience of evaluating applicants, filtering CV's and recruitment do you have? The tone of your post is blunt and confrontational suggesting none. You may mean well and wish to help but please refrain if your experience in the area is limited. Sorry, but some of your suggestions aren't really a good idea.


7oodaz. When reading a CV for the first time I want it all on ONE page. To see the applicants name in bold, enlarged print at the top followed by his/her address and contact details.

Licences, ratings and hours flown should be displayed prominently. I will scan for these immediately. Remember that often the first selection stage (ie, filtering) will be conducted by a non-pilot member of the admin staff who will have been told to look firstly for total hours then (if applicable) type rating and time on type. Sadly some of these people will not be all that sympathetic and if they can't find that information straight away will simply move on to the next in the pile. A one page CV can contain all they need to know about you initially, certainly enough to decide whether or not you qualify for the next stage. One that is padded out with fluff and verbiage stands a good chance of being cast aside. Trust me, I've seen it done.

By all means briefly list your hobbies and interests but do NOT list the magazines you subscribe to, nobody cares at this stage. It's taken for granted you follow the main industry ones. If you don't, you should.

No need to list medical expiry at this stage. Again, it should be kept current as a matter of course.

No need for sim hours. It's just seen as waffle, padding.

School grades and subjects. Not interested. Likewise your flying subjects. You must have passed the latter to gain your licence which is all that's relevant at this stage. A company that wants to will subject you to an entrance exam will do so anyway.

If you have worked in the industry briefly list dates, position and responsibilties. If not then a brief explanation of other jobs will suffice. Remember, keep it short. Nobody cares how many Boy Scout badges you earned :O

EVERY applicant I have ever interviewed has claimed to be a hard working team player, it goes without saying. Some of them were lying of course but they'll tell you/me want we want to hear to get the job. ;)

If you'd like an example of the layout I suggest (and is more or less the industry norm) PM me and I'll be happy to oblige.

Good luck

Johnny F@rt Pants
9th November 2009, 17:30
What hope has this poor guy got when the replies on here are so poorly written. How on Earth is he ever going to get a CV right if he reads some of the replies on here, particularly yours Mr Highspeed. Your reply is of no use at all, it is badly written and very poorly punctuated, have you never heard of capital letters after a full stop. I know that many people harp on about spelling and grammar on here in areas where their comments are really unnecessary, but in this instance any assistance in writing a CV in a foreign language can only benefit our newly qualified friend.

Slopey
9th November 2009, 19:03
Couple of things 7oodaz;

Seeking for the challenging position as a Co-Pilot.

Not quite correct English, you probably mean: "Seeking a challenging position as a co-pilot."

Personnel

Personnel are people who work within an organisation, you probably mean personal, i.e. yours: "Personal Information"

7oodaz
11th November 2009, 11:44
thank you guys :) all your posts were really useful for me editing my c.v :) now i think its the best :) thank you again .

AMEX
11th November 2009, 12:09
7oodaz

One good point for you... I like your spirit. So if ever asked about your "personal qualities", something like "a postive attitude", "willingness to learn from others" seem to describe you fine.


flyhighspeed
night hours get rid of, no need, to much information ( to get a night rating, you will need a cpl rating any way)
Is that so ? Really... Don't post if you don't know or if you have never been beyond the end of your back garden.