Any details on the Piaggio Avanti that was enroute to BGBW and went down in the icecap after diverting to Sondrestrom?

CADORS number 2009A0990, 16 Oct 09

Narrative:
N108GF, PIAGGIO P180, enroute from Keflavik (BIKF) to Narsarsuaq (BGBW) was cleared out of controlled airspace and reported leaving 19,500 ft. at 13:29. At 14:10Z Sondrestrom Flight Information Centre (FIC) called to advise that N108GF had missed the approach and requested an IFR clearance to Kangerlussuaq (BGSF) at 30,000 ft. Gander Oceanic was unable to issue clearance at 30,000 ft. due to traffic. BGSF FIC further advised that the pilot reported fuel critical and was climbing to 30,000 ft. Traffic was not in close proximity to the flight. Gander Oceanic was unable to talk to the flight and was unsure of the actions taken by the pilot. The flight was estimated to have exited Gander airspace at 14:45Z. Reykjavík (BIRK) Area Control Centre (ACC) later advised that the flight was over due at the destination and had advised Kangerlussuaq that the fuel situation was very serious. ETA for Kangerlussuaq was approximately 15:15Z and as of 17:32Z no arrival report had been received. At 18:00Z BIRK ACC supervisor called to advise that the aircraft had been located on the ice cap. The pilot had survived and was being transported to Kangerlussuaq.

Pilot in one piece, aircraft in many pieces.

any pics on the Executive?ive flown this avanti back in the sandtrap..






"THERE'S ALWAYS A KRYPTONITE FOR EVERYTHING"

Why don't some people know that engines run longer with fuel going to them.:ugh:

anyone Know About This??????

A little birdy told me one ran out of fuel, something to do with not being equipped for RVSM and having a problem with head winds at a low altitude.

Who Was The Pilot? Ran Out Of Fuel? What? Omg, What An Idiot, Everyone At Avantair Is Talking About It

He is ex Avantair Capt

Gazbert: thanks for the update. Does anyone know what the weather conditions were at the airport?

Lucky man or not?

:ugh:This guy has given piaggio a bad name, and . What does weather have to do with this brain dead piaggio driver running out of fuel? I wonder if he had an alternate.

Can i get his name or initials?

How about JR

i new it! i herd of him as an f.o at avantair. He is such an dick!

This does not surprise me. my husband works for the faa and he is checking to see if he reported the accident.

Things like this happen to people likehim!!

Things like this happen to people like him!!

And what kind of things should happen to people like you? Please do let us know what your husband thinks about it.

Hmmm a four post wonder spouting venom! Not seen that before!

Maybe there are some Nazi radio opps still hiding around the locality and continue to send out false bearing and weather reports, mind you this could be a good investment, the P38 recovered from the cap was worth over fifty times its original cost by the time it was rebuilt!

Sounds like the weather turned against this poor chap. There are not a lot of options in that part of the world and if the destination unexpectedly goes below minima the alternate may well go down as well. That must be a nightmare if headwinds were stronger than forcast and fuel is low. Thank heavens I have never been in that situation.

From some posts it sounds as if he was not liked or respected and bad things do tend to happen to chancers rather than cautious aviators but perhaps we should reserve judgement until something official comes out. Speculation without facts is one thing but judgement is not right.

If I didnt have sufficient fuel for the alternate I would declare and emergency and fly the ILS all the way to the runway.

If I didnt have sufficient fuel for the alternate I would declare and emergency and fly the ILS all the way to the runway.

Tain't no ILS at BGBW:)

Some comments here are just disgusting

I wonder what people would say about their author, if in the same situation.

shit happens, sometimes

OK thanks Ferrydude, but you know what I mean:ok:

...so you'd continue down the NDB/D 07 circling only till... :}

Sorry, couldn't resist - getting coat now...

I actually flew with this guy back at avantair.

He truely is an asshole, these posts are all right on about this guy!

I'm laughing at this, roman runs out of gas. :D

I don't care who you are or what you think of this guy airdriver123, capt.babydoll, your posts are totally inappropriate. Enjoying the misfortunes of others is a very shallow view on the world. I don't wish harm on others, even those whom I may have issues with, let alone publicly enjoy their misfortunes.

Someone could have died in this, a family would have lost a loved one, and all you have to do about this is laugh. How would your family feel if someone laughed at your misfortune that could have resulted (or worse DID) in death?

These forums are to help us all learn, grow and contribute within aviation and, even in JB, there is little tolerance for this sort of behaviour.

Have a little think dude.