Windows 7 not so desirable?

[frostbite]

Some interesting comments at

Ten reasons Windows 7 could flop - at ZDNet.co.uk (http://resources.zdnet.co.uk/articles/comment/0,1000002985,39796447,00.htm)

[Michael Birbeck]

Microsoft will ensure that Windows 7 gets traction through the normal method of ensuring that subtle incompatibilities at the network level incline the corporates to roll it out on user's desktops sooner rather than later.

It will soon be the de facto build supplied with all new PCs etc.

I have reviewed it on a laptop and the performance improvement is marked. It seems that MS have got this one right!

Time will tell I guess!

[green granite]

That is the biggest bit of pointless Microsoft bashing I've seen for a long while.

[Bruce Wayne]

hardly...

i'm not going to be looking at windows 7 till at least the first SP has been released and stick with the O/S I have in use now, which are..

Server 2003
XP Pro on 1 laptops and 2 desktops
Vista Ultimate on 1 Laptop (and it sucks - bench test before network upgrade)

The vista machine is the most problematic with networking, to the point its practically a stand alone now.

10 Sep 2009 at 15:53

Microsoft has promised to patch a flaw in Windows Vista and 7 that could allow hackers to take complete control of the machine.

The company was alerted to the flaw after security researcher Laurent Gaffie produced exploit code which showed how Microsoft's SMB2 network file and print-sharing protocol could be hacked to allow attackers to hijack the machine.

The exploit was initially used to bring on the dreaded blue screen of death, however Microsoft later admitted that it could also be used to remotely execute malicious code on vulnerable machines

[Gonzo]

Agree GG, smacks of link-bait bashing.

I've been using Windows 7 on my main machine ever since the Release Candidate was available and so far it's been flawless.

I also have it running on my (low powered) laptop that struggled to run Vista adequately.

I have two copies of 7 pre-ordered.

[Mike-Bracknell]

Erm Bruce, there's a more serious flaw in Server 2003 IIS by the way ;-)

Also, Windows 7 is a VERY worthwhile upgrade to XP. I like it so much i've been using the beta since it was released. FWIW, I hated Vista.

[Rollingthunder]

Don't talk to me about windows. For what's it's worth quotes hisnamessake (if he actually existed as well as that muslim fellah). Lost 11,000 plus pics and word and spreadsheet thingie, all my vids, (oh yeah, Excel). And $125.00.

[Sprogget]

I've had every beta of 7 that I could lay hands on & now run two legitimate final release copies of ultimate & it's pretty much the best o/s I've used. I agree with GG, the piece is just another Ms hater venting spleen against the great Satan.:rolleyes:

[Mornington Crescent]

I'm sure MB will put me right.

I have four machines networked. Two on Vista. I now have Vista on my main PC by choice. Apart from the confusion of files when view hidden files is selected I actually prefer Vista.

Well that should do it.

Windows 7 comes without a browser (I believe) so folks with a single computer are going to need help. It also comes without photo gallery or equivalent. After many hours of trying I could not get it to run my Epson printer in the duplex mode. It also looks a lot like Vista (for lovers of XP). In addition it would not recognise my old HP scanner.

No doubt I will go there in the end but it's not sliced bread - yet!

MC

[green granite]

Windows 7 comes without a browser (I believe)

No, MS have decided to include browsers on the disc, you get a choice of the mainstream browsers.

[Mornington Crescent]

Ah, I'm glad to hear that. MS were previously publishing instructions on how to download IE8 prior to the installation of Windows 8.

[Michael Birbeck]

After many hours of trying I could not get it to run my Epson printer in the duplex mode. It also looks a lot like Vista (for lovers of XP).


MC I run an HP printer and obviously had to download an updated driver to get full functionality with Windows 7. Did you update the HP scanner driver from their website? If you are defaulting to the driver set that comes with Windows 7 your scanner may not work.

Have you updated your Epson driver/s? I note from reading some of the Windows 7 forums that a number of Epson printer issues have been noted.

What Epson printer are you using?

MB

[Mornington Crescent]

Thanks for your interest. It's the C1100 with a duplex attachment. Although the driver on the disk works fine with Vista in would not allow me duplex on 7. I tried to find an updated driver from Epson without success. Windows 7 own driver would also not allow duplex.

In the end I had to use another computer as a printer server but that's a bit OTT. Replacing the scanner (which I did) was one thing but replacing the duplex colour laser was not on.

I took 7 off and am awaiting the outcome of the real article!

[Michael Birbeck]

In the end I had to use another computer as a printer server but that's a bit OTT.


This is completely unacceptable and is the cause of much irritation to HP scanner users (see many entries on forums).

On the Epson C1100 front I have asked the question directly of our local (company) Epson support. I will revert with an answer, hopefully! :)

[Mornington Crescent]

Thanks MB

Very good of you. I would give W7 another chance if this problem could be resolved.

[green granite]

You may find that a driver will magically become available on the 21st, ie the day before it's officially released.

[jimtherev]

This is completely unacceptable and is the cause of much irritation to HP scanner users (see many entries on forums).


Thread drift, I know, Michael, but aren't HP round the corner from you? Do you happen to know any of their Sales staff who can explain why they produce such cr@p software? Pity - I swear by my HP printer - except when the software fails me again.

[Mike-Bracknell]

Thread drift, I know, Michael, but aren't HP round the corner from you? Do you happen to know any of their Sales staff who can explain why they produce such cr@p software? Pity - I swear by my HP printer - except when the software fails me again.
It's a long-held trueism that HP's hardware is amongst the best in class....but unfortunately their accompanying software is amongst the *worst*. This is irrespective of product.

[Mike-Bracknell]

It also comes without photo gallery or equivalent.
Specifically what are you looking for in a "photo gallery"? As I just use the file explorer with thumbnailing, and Windows Photo Viewer (which comes as standard with Windows 7) to view the full file.

[Gertrude the Wombat]

It's a long-held trueism that HP's hardware is amongst the best in class....but unfortunately their accompanying software is amongst the *worst*. This is irrespective of product.
Absolutely.

And they waste so much of their effort - I don't want them to spend their development time on 3D photo-realistic hourglasses, there's a perfectly good hourglass built into the operating system for free, they should be spending their time on making their drivers work properly.

None of which would matter ... except that their hardware is the best, so you have to keep buying it and putting up with their crap software.

[Keef]

Indeed so. I gave up on the HP scanner and the HP colour printer because the software was so awful. Gave 'em away. It took about two minutes from pressing the button to getting the scan - accompanied by all sorts of pictures of whirring cogs. The Agfa scanner just scans, with no faff. Sadly, Agfa got out of the scanner business, but my vintage one is still as good as anything I've seen.
It works flawlessly with Win 7, too.

The only niggle I have with Win 7 is that it doesn't work with my prehistoric SCSI card, so I can't use the SCSI CDRW or the older-still but even faster Agfa SCSI scanner.

[Bruce Wayne]

good to hear that there is plenty of positive hard reports back on W7.

Through the problems i have had in the past I've just been lairy of adopting a new O/S at the outset..

FWIW i know server 2003's issues and it remains outside of direct connection to the WAN. i have a very specific network set up and the set up is very tight.

i also use some specialist software that vista doesn't like and am loathed to experiment with it on a new o/s.. likely i will upgrade the vista ultimate machine to W7 and bench test it before considering a change out. all the computers have been either built specifically for their purpose and my two laptops are non standard..

as for HP printers / scanners.. agree the hardware is spot on the software is a pain.. but thats another story...

will be very interested to keep seeing your feedback on w7 :ok:

[green granite]

will be very interested to keep seeing your feedback on w7

BW see http://www.pprune.org/computer-internet-issues-troubleshooting/371078-windows-7-rc.html which has been running here since April.

[Mushroom_2]

I have 2 machines running RTM versions of Windows 7 Pro. Both were clean installs and have worked just fine. I love how it goes off and finds the correct drivers for video cards and other peripherals. Lots of stuff works without needing to load any driver software at all.

Only failure is my ancient Palm which will only run on an old version of Palm desktop.

From another who loathes Vista.

[Sprogget]

Fwiw, I run an HP deskjet F4180 all in one number & Because of the just terrible software others have mentioned from HP, I just installed the driver & run the thing through windows fax & scan. It works fine from there.

[seacue]

Very important programs I have written or maintain are in dBase for DOS or Borland C (for DOS). They use DOS graphics.

While they work fine on XP machines, I gather they won't be successful on Win7. [Thanks to Keef for trying one of them.]

We are going through the exercise of choosing a new database.
I don't look forward to porting the C programs to a Windows version of C.

Any experience or thoughts??

seacue

[green granite]

You can use the "virtual XP" mode in W7: Windows Virtual PC: Get Started (http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/get-started.aspx)

[Michael Birbeck]

We are going through the exercise of choosing a new database.
I don't look forward to porting the C programs to a Windows version of C.


Sounds like it is time to rewrite for the .Net environment using C# and MS SQL Server DB.

Exeprience, a pain the the derriere but surely something you will need to do!

I used love Borland C... :ok:

[fleebag]

Agree with all the points mentioned in the article, nothing sounds like bashing to me, I've also had a hand full of BSOD as well to top it off. I'll probably upgrade after SP1 or SP2, but for now I've downgraded of RC1 back to XP. The no upgrade of XP is going to be a killer for the average user.

[frostbite]

Whilst on the subject.......

Windows 7 holes plugged in record Patch Tuesday - ZDNet.co.uk (http://news.zdnet.co.uk/security/0,1000000189,39807829,00.htm)

[Gertrude the Wombat]

I don't look forward to porting the C programs to a Windows version of C.

Any experience or thoughts??
You could ask me for a quote :)

[rgbrock1]

Windows 7? There are now 7 Windows? (Is that similar to the 7 scourges on mankind?) What does that all mean, I don't understand?

I use Linux. It's a real operating system.

<takes coat, hat, fake mustache and runs like he**)

[Michael Birbeck]

Rgbrock1

Awk! :eek:

Sed like a true Linux man. Nothing UNIX in that.

Hat, coat etc.

[rgbrock1]

Anything else would be CATastrophic Michael. MAN kind wouldn't have it any/other/way!!!!!!

[green granite]

Interesting thought, the postal strike is set to start the same day as the pre-ordered Windows 7 should arrive. Is this deliberate one asks oneself. :(

[Mike-Bracknell]

Hi,

What's the purpose of your databases? and have you considered a web-based database instead?

:)

Mike.

[izod tester]

Seacue, you could run your database in a DOS or XP virtual machine using VirtualBox.

[Guest 112233]

In my dim and distant past I was a FOXPRO programmer. Is the product still available - It might work in an XP Emulation.

CAT III

[seacue]

Thank you all for the comments on my request for suggestions regarding my dBase and Borland C programs.

The organization where I volunteer is investigating a commercial database system vendor whose system resides on FoxPro. FoxPro still exists, but Microsoft says they will stop supporting it in 2015. That is a too-short timeframe for our organization. The vendor says that they will rewrite for some other (unspecified) system.

The C programs are my own hobby products. Their ancestry reaches back about 15 years and nothing major has changed in over five years. I have an unknown number of users who have downloaded the programs for free. The LARGE data files are updated each month for free download. You'll note the repeated use of "free", so I'm unwilling to pay for a port.

It is my understanding that Keef used the "virtual XP" mode in Win7. My programs didn't work right with that.

I suspect that I'll have to find someone locally with a Win7 system who will let me experiment. I've had too many other things on my plate for the past months to spend any serious time on this project.

Thanks to you all.

seacue

[mustpost]

Just a quick tuppenceworth - been running 7 and virtual xp for quite a few months on a dual boot disk - nothing untoward to report.."Rare" drivers are gradually being updated

[hurn]

Been running Windows 7 RTM on my testbed for about 3 weeks now.

Seems ok, much better than Vista was when first released, but still annoys me in many ways.

Some of my customers have asked about upgrading from their current Vista setups, but my advise to them has been to save their cash.
Personally I just don't think it's worth the money upgrading from Vista SP2 to Windows 7.

[rgbrock1]

seacue:

You might want to try running VMware's Workstation on your 7 PC and create a
Windows XP virtual machine in it. Then you'll have the "best" of both worlds.

[Guest 112233]

Speaking from experence, one of the gotya's of XP is that through time, the boot up time becomes glacial and I do mean slow. Vista is much the same. I wonder how WIN 7 fares in this respect ? - From what I have read, its fundamentally an improved Vista.

CAT III

[green granite]

CAT III
I've been running W 7 RC1 since it's release in May and haven't noticed any slowdown to start up, but then again I do keep the start up items to a minimum.

[C-N]

I avoid startup delays by not shutting down the laptop. Just close the laptop, remove the cables, and insert everything in your bag. No start-up delays, that is, if you're not using a Desktop PC.

[hurn]

The laptop probably just goes into Sleep mode once the lid is shut.

Sleep mode is also available to use on a desktop PC with Vista+Win7

[Saab Dastard]

The laptop probably just goes into Sleep mode once the lid is shut.
And drains the battery. :ouch:

Much better to hibernate.

SD

[Mike-Bracknell]

Speaking from experence, one of the gotya's of XP is that through time, the boot up time becomes glacial and I do mean slow. Vista is much the same. I wonder how WIN 7 fares in this respect ? - From what I have read, its fundamentally an improved Vista.

CAT III

That's not XP per se, that's the software you install on top of it which 'requires' a memory-resident portion because people seem to have lost the ability to code properly any more.

A vanilla XP install, properly defragged regularly, and containing no new software, won't change in bootup speed at all over time.

[Sprogget]

I second that. There really is an imperative to maintain a pc, just as you would a car or your house. Although I've never had a problem booting the house.

I have a friend who surfs all day on a completely unprotected laptop & surprise surprise, it's infested with all sorts of horriblemess. She asks me to fix it regularly & I've now refused to look at it anymore until she puts antivirus on & turns on the firewall.

[Keef]

It's amazing how much stuff installs itself, and adds itself to the startup list, even when you think Win7 stops that.

I run MSCONFIG and Task Manager regularly, to see what's crept back.
Even though I don't use Windows Media Player, wmpnetwk.exe is always there. Often when I'm looking in one of the networked folders, WMP will pop up and ask to play something it's spotted.

There's AppleMobileDeviceService.exe, BBC Iplayer Desktop.exe, GoogleCalendarSync.exe, GoogleUpdate.exe, iTunesHelper.exe, jusched.exe, SearchFilterHost.exe, SearchIndexer.exe, SearchProtocolHost.exe, BM.exe, PAC207 Monitor.exe, CorelIOMonitor.exe, CorelPhotoDownloader.exe, wmdc.exe, mobsync.exe, QTTask.exe, and Acrobat Reader_sl.exe. Then there are about 14 copies of svchost.exe presumably supporting them.

I know what most of them are, and don't think I need them running all the time. I knock them on the head, but they soon sneak back.

[C-N]

AppleMobileDeviceService.exe, BBC Iplayer Desktop.exe, GoogleCalendarSync.exe, GoogleUpdate.exe, iTunesHelper.exe, jusched.exe, SearchFilterHost.exe, SearchIndexer.exe, SearchProtocolHost.exe, BM.exe, PAC207 Monitor.exe, CorelIOMonitor.exe, CorelPhotoDownloader.exe, wmdc.exe, mobsync.exe, QTTask.exe, and Acrobat Reader_sl.exe. Then there are about 14 copies of svchost.exe presumably supporting them.

I know what most of them are, and don't think I need them running all the time. I knock them on the head, but they soon sneak back.

True, all programs wants a part of our RAM and processor time, there's still no law in place that punishes the software vendors and programmers who abuses there customers, by installing some TSR's and background services which makes our system so slow. For the uninitiated, they thought they need a new machine. well thats what all PC vendors and software vendors wants us to do. buy buy buy buy buy....

[C-N]

And drains the battery. http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/shiner.gif

I don't think there is going to be a huge difference in the remaining power in your battery, as when you're in sleep/hibernate/standby whatever you call that, the only power that's being maintained is your RAM which consumes negligible wattage (didn't crosscheck and researched but this is how I understood it). Besides, the battery has also internal resistance which will make the battery drain even if it's unused or even if disconnected.

[lomapaseo]

Software pirates hijack Windows 7 China debut - Security- msnbc.com (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33343256/ns/technology_and_science-security)


In a bid to tackle the problem, Microsoft last year launched an unconventional campaign in China that caused a black screen to be displayed every hour for users of pirated Windows XP.

I got this black screen regulary on an unpirated verion of XP that came with my new computer. When I ran the event viewer after each event it always seems to come up with a CA virus update as the last command before crashing.

So now it's time to renew (which I won't be doing) and just load in a freebie AWG

[Loose rivets]

I don't think there is going to be a huge difference in the remaining power in your battery, as when you're in sleep/hibernate/standby whatever you call that, the only power that's being maintained is your RAM which consumes negligible wattage (didn't crosscheck and researched but this is how I understood it).

Following my venting about battery drain, I've drawn a blank with Sony over the power being sucked out of my battery. They refuse to budge - and that's after half an hour of structured argument as to why it's wrong. My wife's HP can be left for a week OFF or Hibernate, and the batt shows 90%+ My Vaio loses 10-15% per day. The only way to stop this is to take the battery out. I've posted the link with the Sony excuse for this.

It's astonishing just how annoying this is.



Besides, the battery has also internal resistance which will make the battery drain even if it's unused or even if disconnected.

I would be scared to own a battery that lost a significant amount due to internal resistance. I'd leave it down the garden in a bucket of water.;)

[Saab Dastard]

I don't think there is going to be a huge difference in the remaining power in your battery, as when you're in sleep/hibernate/standby whatever you call that, the only power that's being maintained is your RAM which consumes negligible wattage

Sleep / Standby are different to hibernate - in hibernation the contents of RAM is written out to disk, so no power at all is required for the RAM.

SD

[Jofm5]

Quote:
I don't think there is going to be a huge difference in the remaining power in your battery, as when you're in sleep/hibernate/standby whatever you call that, the only power that's being maintained is your RAM which consumes negligible wattage
Sleep / Standby are different to hibernate - in hibernation the contents of RAM is written out to disk, so no power at all is required for the RAM.

SD


Just to reinforce what SD has said there is a huge difference between sleep/standby and hibernate.

Hibernate will commit the memory to disk and effectively power down the machine. Sleeping is disabling all non essential components but leaving the machine running.

Whilst they may sound similar, if you sleep a laptop and chuck it in a case you have a high chance of everything overheating as the ventilation has gone. If you hibernate you dont need the ventilation as you have effectively powered down.

[C-N]

I stand corrected. Hibernate is indeed better as it completely turns off everything. But again, sleep/standby will not overheat anything as it will turn off the harddisk, CPU, etc, except the RAM, which is consuming negligible power and negligible temperature compared to cpu, which at that time is already turned off. checked my XP, can't find hibernate, I clicked shutdown and I have only the following options: Log off Shutdown Restart Standby don't know whether i disabled something by accident, the reason why hibernate is not displayed in my xp.

[Guest 112233]

Thanks everyone for the details. Yep like many I do keep an eye on the progs instantiating at startup. monitoring with msconfig and winpatrol (a blast from the past but works on XP). Re the comments about processes consuming battery life - In my experence it does make a difference - minimising the number of extraineous startups does help. PS I forgot to mention I'm running Norton 2009 on the offending M/C - ESET NOD on the "Banger" 800mhx, 10 Gb HD XP SP3 ( My only piece of Kit that did run SP3 without grief initially)

A big drain on battery performance is wireless - You can set things up so that it sleeps after a period of inactivity - I know wifi is never totally inactive but every little helps. Modern HD's seem to be very miserly in their power requirements -As does RAM - Finally you can always slow the CPU a bit - Re Rivits comments. PS I think that the BIOS has to support Hibernate as an option - Not sure though.


CAT III

[Bushfiva]

checked my XP, can't find hibernate

Press shift while looking.

And Standby doesn't power down everything except RAM: many items remain powered to varying degrees depending on the manufacturer. As Mr Rivets has found, Sony models supposedly in S3 leave a lot of unnecessary things with power, including any built-in camera.

[jimtherev]

AFAIK, Hibernate has to be turned on when 2000 or XP is installed.

<START> <CONTROL PANEL> <POWER OPTIONS> then the hibernate tab, and 'enable hibernation'. Then, as BFiver says, you can find 'Hibernate' as an option on shutting down if you press the shift key.

[C-N]

jimtherev, thanks found the hibernate

[green granite]

Hmmmmmm, My pre-ordered shrink-wrapped windows 7 has arrived by snail mail this morning, since the invoice stated quite categorically that it would not be dispatched until the 21st, the Royal Mail obviously has a time machine. :ok:

[marlowe]

Received mine from PC world on 19/10/09 I thought it odd as have lots of emails from them stating that it would not ship until 21st and then take up to 7 days to arrive! I guess the forth coming postal strike may have had something to do with early arrival?

[Loose rivets]

Just saw this while checking the news headlines. I hadn't spotted the little button at bottom right. I wonder how many trillion other things I haven't found yet.


BBC NEWS | Technology | A look at what's new in Windows 7 (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8315298.stm)

[green granite]

I guess the forth coming postal strike may have had something to do with early arrival?

I think you're correct in your assumption.

So much for not auto installing Internet exploder, it did (V8) but gives you a link to FireFox in the favourites list :ugh:

Clean install totally painless although there were one or two pregnant pauses where nowt appeared to happen but over all no problems whatsoever :ok:

[Keef]

I feel cheated! Mine didn't arrive, and I'm off to the Northern Hideaway for a week in the morning. I'll have to carry on with the RC version for a whole week :(

[hurn]

My copy of Win 7 Ultimate arrived a few months ago. Delivered first class from the internet. :p

[Loose rivets]

I'm not sure when my W7 RC starts to disintegrate. Is there any way of telling the exact time?

[green granite]

Next August I believe LR.

[Sprogget]

Next August as GG says.

What will happen is you will lose your wallpaper in favour of a black background & a reminder every hour to come in no 7, your time is up. It will otherwise work as normal, so no need to panic, you will still be able to carry on and/or get all your data off as required.

[goldfrog]

Windows 7 RC will expire June 1, 2010, and the bi-hourly shutdowns will begin on March 1, 2010.

[green granite]

goldfrog

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They have changed it from what was originally mooted :(

[Captain Gadget]

Well, it's here now...

I have been running Win 7 RC for several months. I should add that never before have I been tempted so early by a new offering from Microsoft - previously I have done what others here are advocating and waited a year or so. Two things made the difference this time: the first was the Vista bloatware on my Dell (I have wanted XP Pro on the machine when I bought it earlier this year, but they would only supply Vista Ultimate, due to compatibility (i.e. Windows Media Center [sic]) with its bundled Hauppauge DVB-T TV card. The second was the fact that I had recently passed on my old PC to my daughter and so, for the first time, had a non-critical testbed to try it out on.

I needn't have worried. It puts Vista in the shade, and although I've never run XP on my Dell, I reckon that it would give that a run for its money speed-wise. Yes, the interface is pretty much Vista (with some tweaks) but then the interface was the only thing about Vista that I liked - I'd run XP for years using the Windows Classic interface because I couldn't for the life of me see the point of those fat title bars and I hated the dayglo green Start button.

If you're wavering, I recommend that you give 7 a try. As the press is saying, Microsoft really needs to get this launch right following the (shall we say?) 'suboptimal' uptake of Vista. I think they just might have done that.

Incoming...

Gadget :ok:

[Mornington Crescent]

Thought it might help to add my experience of Win 7.

Upgraded from Vista home premium to W7 home premium with a downloaded copy.

Went on no problems and nearly all the programmes worked. However - the scanner did not work (HP 3010) and I had to talk to HP to get a solution. Win 7 comes with IE 8 built in. This has a glitch (for me) that does not allow opening a link, say from a pprune thread. Have tried many suggestions from Google but no go.
Opera and Firefox all OK.

Another problem. I downloaded Chrome. Then uninstalled it! It left another glitch that prevented me from opening a link from any of the office 2007 applications. Googling found me a solution to that problem.

It still looks like Vista though
MC

[Keef]

I installed it on the desktop last week, and had no problems. I'd been running the Win 7 RC so knew what to expect from it.

The only difference that I see is that I no longer have the "Remote Desktop Server" on the desktop, which is a slight pain. I'll be looking for a suitable free VNC viewer to go on there, I think.

I'm in the middle of swapping the laptop to Win 7 HP now - or rather, the laptop is. I've just left it to get on with it.

[Loose rivets]

What's the licensing deal...can you put a copy onto your laptop?

[Sprogget]

3 installs iirc on retail copies. Stand to be corrected though...

[Bushfiva]

One machine per license. Family pack of Windows 7 Home Premium (in select markets) which will allow installation on up to 3 PCs.