You know you're on the Subcontinent when....

[fhegner]

Having had great joy and lot of laugh reading the tread: 'You know you're in Africa when...' and knowing that rules are broken or/and ignored on the subcontinent as well, I'll take the chance of redicule by starting the tread: 'You know you're on the Subcontinent when....' so ladies and gentlemen, pls post your experiences .

F

[FO Cokebottle]

when ATC want to:

1. read, verbatum, the Indian AIP to you ..... on the area frequency when you give your initial position report

2. has no hesitation giving multible instructions whilst you are co-ordinating their last set of instructions with Dacka - on VHF 2 - whist you are transiting the 25 NM of Dacka airspace. You realise its going to be one of those nights. Even worse; try climbing out from Dacka via Kolkata and you'll know what I mean

3. bust your b@lls for not answering their first, and only, call when you have been trying to raise them for the last 20 minutes on the only two frequencies listed, for that FIR, on the Jepp chart

4. insist on giving you their re-route, that so happens to coincide with your actual flight plan - then its given to you again through every subsequent FIR up until you past the two god damned way points they keep prattling on about.

5. ask for your aircraft registration mark, on initial contact - somehow they believe or read everything on the SITA FLT PLN strip but the rego

6. when you have to listen to a Jet Airways Captain lodge a verbal complaint, for 30 minutes, over the FIR, for being held down by 2000 feet and then being asked to reduce speed by 10 kts for seperation - now that was better than listening to Hancock's Half Hour.

7. always want to know your estimate for your exit point at your entry point (initial call).......like your transiting the whole country through at least five FIRs - guess you gotta keep an accurate record for that revenue.

8. writing your ID number and signing your name in a 2" thick leather bound ledger at the crew entry immigration desk

9. having your overflight permit number questioned



Hope this kicks it off for you fhegner

[Captain Dart]

Ahh yes, the ledger at Immigration. It's like something out of Charles Dickens!

[stable approach]

.........when you have to produce your passport at your hotel to receive a letter to take to an office where you produce said letter and go from desk to desk to desk (yes, three) in order to obtain five bottles of Indian Fosters as your allowance for three days stay. (In Ahmedabad)

[Capetonian]

..... when the place is full of signs like :

Parking inside is not allowed outside

Callers must enter and speak to receptionist before entering

Free water sold here

Travellers' cheques cashed, service optional

In emergency, contact SOD for assistance extn. 1507

Rajeev Helth products, marbel and concreet division

SCAM, School for Accountancy and Marketing

Hostel, all rooms having water running and full emenetics

[dessas]

1. When you smell the **** descending through 13000...
2. When you are told you are #58 for landing and you can talk your way up to #10.
3. When you have to wait for the rw to open for 30 min after the class I NOTAM posted time.
4. When you use 2 tons to wait for parking space.
5. When you fly at MSA for 50 nm (fifty not 25) supposedly under radar control after a rw change.
6. When main rw is closed for maintenance, even if the wx is below minima for the secondary.
7. When they take the number plate of the taxi you get on at arrivals.
8. When ATC doesn't have a clue how many track miles you have to landing.
10.When security sprays your shaving foam in your flight bag. By mistake, of course.
11. When you are stuck in traffic because somebody abandoned an old A310 frame on a major crossroads.
12. When you need to use a spray (the onboard issue type) to kill the mossies in the crew bus at 1 am.
13. When you can smell the stale clothes of same bus driver who has slept on board same bus since he got hired to drive it.
14. When you eat charcoal tablets every time you have a meal - just in case.
15. When you see customs officers holding hands like schoolgirls.
:mad:
I'll come back to this post tomorrow with another 15 clues, if the mods don't delete it
:mad:
P.S. When your CP flies there only couple a times a year and on back-to-back flights but sends you there month after month on 4 day layovers.

[Metro man]

1.You request a weather deviation on HF, and by the time ATC get back to you the weather is now behind.
2.Reduce to minimum clean speed at the boundary.
3.Tractors are used on the apron

[classicart]

I am almost conversant with the phrase "to do the needful"

but when our ops manager sent an email starting like this I was really puzzled (and still am):

"Captains, please not for needful"

the email was in relation to our airport passes which have not been issued yet (we only requested them 3.5 months ago), so the subject line of the email read "Pilot for passes"

:confused:

[nungry]

Two that come to mind as I sit here nodding my head at the above-

1. Roj. Why is every RT call acknowledged with roj. Everytime we step outside supposed ICAO radio calls or criteria, they bust our balls, but they, ATC, are taught a new word on day 1 of training, i.e., roj.
2. I'm sick of my fillings falling out everytime we roll down the runway on take-off!!

More to come!!!

[Goat Liner]

When ATC asks for "total on board through security!". As opposed to what? Total that jumped over the fence?

[piton]

Goat Liner
Probably !!
:}:D

[itsbrokenagain]

Only in India can you see people camping beside the main runway at a major airport between the hold short line and the runway edge (CCU where the other day one of the campers was taking a **** on the edge of the taxiway, totally ignorant of the 100 people staring at him!)

[nungry]

"Total on board through security" so he can fill it in his 6" leather bound ledger!!! And then pull out some carbon paper, (I didn't think this stuff still existed, but maybe just in India), and copy it down in triplicate. Then go and get it stamped six times by six different people. On the way out the door and back into the building while trying to find the six different people to give the six same stamps, getting held up by an army/ policeman interrogating his ID card, promising he'll have the bribe ready for him later, just a bit busy right now.

[Roj approved]

When you call "ready/established" and they ask if you are "fully Ready/Fully established" (no i'm only half ready, wadda you think!!!)

After being given long and complicated re routing instructions, which you take 12 calls to read back, you ask for direct to the next waypoint, and all you get is "Approved"

Idiots:ugh:

[Al Fakhem]

.....when you get a 300 ml bottle of beer and they try to bill you for "a pint" (bar upstairs at Santa Cruz terminal)

[parabellum]

Well we Brits have ourselves to blame for some of this. The multiple copies, with carbon paper, was intended to make sure there were many cross checks and thus avoid corruption, that system worked very well until about 1947.

On ATC, remember the person you talk to, especially on HF, is a radio operator, not a controller and he works under the same 15Watt bulb that is universal throughout India, in a dingy office with flies and a very slow ceiling fan with equipment that dates back many decades and has been kept running only because of the TLC and devotion of a few dedicated engineers who get paid less than a cup of Starbucks coffee for a days work and have to put up with torrential downpours of rain that cause them severe problems but, as always, there is no money left in the budget to fix it! Guess why!

The radio Operator will take down your request, or his sidekick will and it will be passed to the Assistant Controller who will, when he gets a chance, pass it to the Controller, the Controller will then make his decision and it will be passed back down the chain. No point at all in trying to discuss anything with the Radio Operator, they have no authority. No place on earth better to see demarcation at work than India, and yes, we taught them that too as a way to make more people self sufficient through employment, wicked colonials that we were!

India charges the same dollar rates for ATC as anywhere else but each dollar has to stretch a whole lot further. Look at Indian railways for an example of thousands of people gainfully employed and supporting families when just a few degrees of automation would throw large numbers out on the streets, unemployed and starving, India doesn't have a very good welfare record.

Non of the above goes to excuse the rampant corruption in India but until that can be stamped out then we have to live with what they offer. I got very irritated when overflying India with 15 minutes separation due 'no radar' but just try cutting a corner or two and you would soon be told that you were "4.3 miles left of the centreline" the military radar works very well but they didn't, (then), use it to control civil traffic.

I suppose my point is that, as the end user, there is no point at all in getting cross with the HF radio Operator or the 'controllers' on non radar sectors, sorry, I have gone on a bit!:)

[thegypsy]

parabellum

If you are a Brit then how come they let you into Australia?

[parabellum]

It is called a sub-class 410 temporary residents visa for retirees, (over 55), valid ten years, (recently upped from four) and allows unlimited work. Best one could do over 45, max age for immigration unless filthy rich, (or on a boat!).
This sub-class visa no longer available. Replaced by a 405 visa which requires oodles of dosh both to get initially and subsequently to renew.

Still hope for PR/citizinship one day. No plans to ever leave, it is just too nice for that!.:)

[fhegner]

A few month ago my frankness able me to enter the depature terminal II at the Indira Gandhi airport, 7 hours prior to check-in (max 2 hours allowed and hardly enough when you concider the normal chaos at the X-ray machines at check-in counter) the alternative was outdoor in the 44 C temperature or the 32 C visitor socalled 'lounge' with entrace fee: $ 1 ( what the choolies make in a day) and the place was stuffed NFW!

3-4 hours went by, had found a less noisy cozy corner. Recharging my thinkpad and even manage to use the wi-fi (just need your indian airtel mobile number - the first thing to acquire when arrive!). Nice new cool marble to sit on and the floorcleaning-walla - now with machine (!) - nicly avoided me with a big smile!
Suddenly two very serious looking gentelmen in jeans t-**** and a huge Motorola stood in front of me. When was my flight wanna see e-ticket. Passport visa aso: The the black book came out....who was the guard who let me in...? (i'd choosen the oldest they never really check anything, bad eyesight even when wearing classes model Gandhi the Elder, lucky he was now of duty') .... every frincking data was handwritten pace 4th grade.

"Mr.....This is very serious offence!"

****, see myself 50 or more bucks poorer. Eventually they ask my to stay put, wich of course i did. Soon ie 50 mins later, two very uniformed top-brass turned up. Same story, this time I noticed that HIS black book was twice the size...at least 100x2 bucks I thought....scheisse.

I was about to ask if they accepted Visa/master card, when suddenly a lotta staccato talk sounded from their mobiles... some kalebalic somewhere ells. Saved by the bell...was escorted to the exit and pointet toward the 'lounge' where I due to a little social enginering got in for free.

Never a dull moment on the Subcontinent....nice... Keeps one awake!

[classicart]

driver needs to brake rather sharply...I instinctively look back to see if the traffic behind us will be able to stop...motorcycle guy is minding his own bussiness and proceeds to slam into the rear of our car and lands his body on our trunk...luckily he is wearing a helmet and so he is only shaken, not hurt...driver gets out and they agree to pull over...instead, the motorbike takes off...driver asks us if he may chase him down (and bypass our hotel)...affirmative...and so we end up in a high speed pursuit dodging traffic and flying over the overpass until we catch up with the fugitive who is licking his sores at the side of the road...driver gets out, snatches the ignition keys from the bike and takes us to our hotel...
felt kinda bad for the biker...

[parabellum]

Being India he probably had a spare set of keys in his pocket or could obtain one within five minutes from the hundreds of roadside repair shops!:)

[Left Wing]

snatches the ignition keys from the bike and takes us to our hotel...:ok::ok::}:}

[The Rage]

Roooj= indian named roger

Customs officer on way out= Why you spend so much in India, crew only allowed 600 rupees a day....! What??? Well i guess they dont like people spending money in their country!:ugh:

No smoking in public, big No No, but its ok to take a crap and a piss in public!

Never question anyone in uniform!:=

But all said and done, i always look foward to an exciting trip to india, its truely magical of a place.

[classicart]

Dear Rage,

I dont want to sound sarcastic and I always try to keep an open mind and be optimistic and positive but I have been living in india for over one year now and I am still racking my brain to find anything possitive to say about this country...so far I have come up with 1. the money is good and 2. the cost of living is low...3. it gives me some empirical knowledge about how my ancestors used to live 800 years ago or so in europe...
The people are friendly enough in general but at the same time pushy and often cunniving and scheming...
doesnt sound very positive ofcorse....so pls Rage let me know what you think is great about india...again this is not meant sarcastically...I really want to know...thanks

[rdr]

classicart,
when your ancestors in europe were running around c**k in hand, stone in the other, chasing rabbits 5000 years ago, there was The Indus & Nile Valley
civillisations. Today, the reality is a reversal of fortunes.
If anything, you may learn from a foreign exposure, is that nothing is for ever, and that humility is a virtue you may want to consider.

[classicart]

darn I knew I was going to step on somebody's toes with this post
sorry to have hurt your feelings rdr
enjoy singapore

[rdr]

no problem classicart, consider spending some time in Rajasthan, the forts and palaces there rival the European rennassaince era. also, Himachal Pradesh on the foothills of the Himalayas.

[silent_scream]

After that long flight, sitting on the Hot seat inside the Washroom of the Hotel Room. Ones eyes veer towards the Shower, which, for some reason is too close to the seat. And also it is not long enough to reach even ones Shoulder for a bath.

After some interrogation regarding why the Shower was "Not Standard", the slightly embarrassed and amused answer came ,
"Sir, that is to wash yourself after you are done with your business on the seat". :O

Let me know if there's any other place where you can find this mechanism.

[classicart]

yes these butt showers can be found almost anywhere in south and south east asia...not sure about places further north...
sometimes it is not the hose and shower contraption but just a bucket and a scoop...
actually this is far more hygienic then the way we go about this detail in the west with rolls and rolls of paper...nothing beats a good wash...

[IndAir967]

when you get to save fuel by flying shorter and Direct routes for not having RNav Approval :rolleyes:

[fhegner]

classicart ji...

As rdr wrote, there were the Indus and Harappa cultures on the subcontinent 7000 years ago and they still are.... I at least feel it vividly, whenever I visit the place.

Try to bargain for a coulpe of bananas and then mingle with plp on the market, go for a haircut or - even better - a shave with knife, in one of the small shop reached only tru a narrow passage. Or attending one of the wild hindi festival where whole towns explode in fireworks (sometime the whole shop goes: whoum!) and colored water and lights...awesome. And compared to europeans/western, the plp in general are much easier going with a mellower approach.....

And then - even the tigers are fewer nowadays - India still have a rather impressive wildlife considering. The mighty Himalayas, beaches, plains, jungles, diversity en masse.

classicart, think you need some weeks staying with a indian family, preferable in a remote mountain village.

cheers

[big_oil]

3. it gives me some empirical knowledge about how my ancestors used to live 800 years ago or so in europe...

800 years? Try less than 100 years. If you are from Eastern or Southern Europe then even less. Europe of early 20th century would be considered a 3rd world country today.

Don't worry Old man Europe only grows it's GDP about 1% during a boom year. India averaged 9% for several years and even in this global economy will grow 6.5%. The GDP per capita convergence is very rapid and will exceed Europe in 30 years. When will your European Union become one country, seems like you guys are always bickering and fighting (2 biggest wars of the 20th century was between Euro's). Read this article, all of Europe is loaded with external debt, (UK is 408% of GDP!):
The World's Biggest Debtor Nations - Slideshows - CNBC.com (http://www.cnbc.com/id/30308959?slide=1)

[classicart]

Dear fhegner

I am sure India looks wonderful and is very exciting to the occasional visitor who can depart again after a few weeks or even the next day after an airline layover.

I have however lived here in a small dusty, dirty mining town in the south since july last year and am very ready to leave and never come back.

Haircuts? almost every month I go to my small barber shop (30 rupees) and have my hair cut. I'm sorry but when he touches my cheeks with his filthy hands I cringe or I see the roaches crawling in the cracks of the wall or the grime dripping off his counter let alone his razor!

But let me not continue on this negative path. As i said before the money is good and the people are friendly. Nature is beautiful. Ofcorse nature is beautiful everywhere and anyway beauty is highly subjective.
As I am writing this, in my neighbors garden behind my house, a small travelling band is singing and beating their drums (like they do every full moon it seems)...divali is over and after 2 weeks of incessant firecrackers and loud explosions that could rival Baghdad or Kabul, I get good nights sleep again. This afternoon I am going to my Sikh friends temple for the celebrations of their 1st guru...
This morning my boss rode his lamborghini or maserati or even his rolls royce to the office 2 kms away getting stuck in potholes or behind an ox cart...spider man, like somebody called him because his extremities are so crippled that he "walks" on all four like a spider, shuffles along in the dust and **** on the side of the road...

I'm sorry I have lived in Indonesia, Thailand and Laos plus a bunch of developed countries, but in my opinion India steels first price in being a complete f**k up as a country. Bridges collapsing, fuel depots ablaze with no ability to stop the fire, a bureaucracy that can fry your brain to a sizzle and people toiling away with no dignity or prospect for a better life. Corruption is so rampant that it, along with the afore mentioned bureaucracy, swallows up 90% of all human endeavour. Nothing gets done. And if something does get done it gets done half assed. I have dealt with it for over a year now. It was difficult in the beginning and it still is difficult.
I am living right in the thick of it guys not in a swanky layover hotel in Delhi or Bombay with escursions to the colorful countryside.

So my friends pls don't take my experiences into acount and keep coming to india for a holiday, if you must...but remember that a society can be judged by the way it treats its weakest (somebody smarter than me said that once) I have seen how the weak are treated here: like **** by the side of the road, literally

Enjoy the tigers

[classicart]

big oil,

I'm not talking about money man...or riches or GDP or stuff like that.
I am talking about the general condition of the human beings who have to live in a particular place. As I said before i have lived in many countries but only here in india do i see tremendous suffering that the average millions have to endure day in and day out...illiteracy, poor infrastucture, health services etc...now if this was a poor country then that would be understandable, but india is not poor. It has enormous riches and educated people (unlike e.g. cambodia) so to me there is no excuse for having such abominable circumstances.

Look we all have our history and stuff to be proud about at various times in the past:
The italians had michelangelo or marco polo or the roman civilisation
The greeks plato and the golden age of city states
The guatemalans have the ancient Maya civilisation
The french had the revolution which did away with bloodsuckers at the top
The russians were first in space
The americans were first on the moon
The english had...mmm...football
The germans had...mmm...sausages and beer
The dutch have cheese, the belgians chocolate
The Icelanders the first parliament
and so on

But all that doesn't really matter. What does matter is how a country is run and how it treats its people now and what their immediate future looks like. What level of dignity they can have. How healthy they are and educated and most of all the level of control of their own individual destiny. Most people live in virtual slavery because their salaries are so low they can not afford to complain or demand changes.

So I am an advocate for an Indian revolution to do away with corrupt politicians and industrialists. Go back to where Ghandi ji had to leave off.

Wow I guess I am definately in trouble now...

[itsbrokenagain]

Sad when some people here cant even have a laugh at the absurdity in their own backyards!

Just proves to me they are still untraveled and small minded, just wait until they go live in a developed country, I would love to see their posts to a thread like this, it would be a scream..... dont worry boys I would join in with the pokes and prods at the strangeness of the developed world, as I am not sensitive and have a sense of humor.

[big_oil]

Well India's per capita GDP is only $2900 (or $1000 in currency exchange terms), so when you say it's a rich country, that's a false statement, it's rich in pockets but with 800 million peasants, it's not going to industrialize overnight. Also it may come as a shocker to you, but income disparity is actually much lower in India than the U.S. or China. (As measured by the GINI index)
I think India has a bright future, literacy rates went from 12% in 1947 (wonderful job those Brit's did) to 75% now. India will achieve 95% literacy in 10-15 years. Life expectancy in India is 70 years (CIA world factbook). In Cambodia it's 62.1 years. I trust their analysis more than your statements.
What makes India "look" worse than other 3rd world countries is it's higher population density. The Indian government failed it's people and adopted socialism right when the population was growing fastest, hence the mess today. However, the Indian people are very entrepreneurial and since the reforms of 1991, India is progressing very well. BTW, I have pictures of New York City from early 1900's and also of European cities, they are not a very pretty picture either.

[big_oil]

"I said before i have lived in many countries but only here in india do i see tremendous suffering"
I have been in many countries too (over 20), India is poor no doubt, and the per capita GDP numbers show that. I have seen tremondous suffering everywhere. I also have an in depth knowledge of history.
I actually think there is a lot more hope and upward mobility in India than other 3rd world countries, it's really quite evident that it's the 2nd fastest growing economy in the world. Insult it all you can now, because I think in 20 years you wont' have that priviledge. Infant mortality and life expectancy are much better in India than other countries of the same per capita GDP (just look up the CIA world factbook).
The Indian private will make it a 1st world country, not the lethargic socialists. Seems to me rather than badmouthing them, I would be supportive of the tremendous change and Industrial growth happening in India and take joy in the fact that hundreds of millions are being pulled out of poverty. Their future is truly very bright.

[rdr]

you know classicart, i fully agree with your points in the last post. it does go to show a reluctance by the nation as a whole to address issues.




Edited to delete foul language.

Duck
Moderator

[classicart]

thanks for your cuncurrance rdr and I am sure that itsbrokenagain will forgive the 4 letter words that were directed to him/her...because in fact he is right, this thread was put up here to have a bit of a laugh about the absurdities in this subcontinent and he too is dreaming about a return to civilisation...inshallah...

so in a discussion with my neighbor the other day, the (only) supermarket in town comes up..."oh you mean the one opposite the courthouse" ... no no, he says "the one courthouse opposite..."

[classicart]

very good big oil

[itsbrokenagain]

so can we get back on topic now, this thread was a fun read for a little bit there before it got all serious and swayed to the left ....

[classicart]

ok itsbrokenagain we will do the needful...:ok:

...when the sedan driver who is overtaking a bus, which is overtaking a motorcycle, which is overtaking a tuk tuk, which is overtaking an ox cart, is flashing his headlights to indicate to the oncoming sedan who is overtaking a bus, which is ... (you get the picture) ... that he should have right of way...

[Capt Apache]

@Its broken again

Nothin wrong in being serious...Its not prohibited

When a man who has a life does not dump his parents in a old age home to be nursed by an ass.

When your family educates you and takes loans in doing so and doesn't expect you to pay it back.

When your wife is faithful to you to her last breath and doesnt marry you just so she can get wealthy after she divorces you.

When having fun is not just about getting drunk but colours and crackers and sweets and poojas (Ritual worship)

Where children don't threaten to call 911 if their parents correct them

[Capt Apache]

When educational institutions don't have metal detectors.

When buying a gun is not as easy as buying peanuts

[ecureilx]

From my childhood spent schooling in India ..

When the cops are in Uniform, they demand respect, and bully people and beat the **** out of people, just for the sake of exercising their power. And when they are off - duty, every citizen has the democratic right to beat the **** out of the same cop .. :mad: :mad:

Been there, seen it with my own eyes ..

Another funny thing. I visited a temple in India, and there is a notice saying "AARLY PRAYERS" .. I had to wrack my brain till it was going nuts, before I figured it out "EARLY PRAYERS" as pronounced by Indian Accented English ..

Well, which country provides free accommodation for late night travellers ? In some parts of India, police will lock you up, if you are roaming around past midnight, and let you off without a question at sunrise .. apparently, this is to keep the streets safe, and also for the cops to clock their number of 'suspects arrested' tally ..

Then while driving in Chennai. When I saw amber in a traffic light, I braked, and there was a big crashing noise of a trishaw slamming into my cousin's car .. (it is the Indian version of Reliant Kitten - those who know will know that it is virtually shatter proof, and best for Indian roads .. ). And comes the trishaw guy demanding why I stopped, and he squarely blamed it on me for his slamming into the back of my car. The theory was "DONT STOP UNTIL THE LIGHT TURNS REALLY RED.. "

All in all, there are exotic places to visit, and my favorites are still the un-spoilt jungles and amazing temples, especially the Tanjore Temple that has a 40 tonne single piece stone at the top, and centuries ago, wonder how the 'illiterate' and 'uneducated' and 'third class' people achieved such amazing feats. Same goes for the Marble Wonder - Taj Mahal. And more and more, still standing as living proof of the talents and skills.

[ecureilx]

When your wife is faithful to you to her last breath and doesnt marry you just so she can get wealthy after she divorces you.


Very true. .

Where children don't threaten to call 911 if their parents correct them


Even more true ..

I could add on ..

When husband and wife have problems, the whole jim-bang relatives turn out to console and advice and 'let you make the right decision' which, invariably means, to get back to the family, and not break up the family (which is quite contrary to what they may show in Indian movies where family members plot to break up couples .. )

[Wannabe Flyer]

When Organized chaos still works and the damn place has not fallen apart :}.......yet!

When there are so many amazing impossibles that become popssibles that it results in a sub continent topic being only about one country and not about the other 5?

[Auschick]

....When trying for start clearance for 2 hrs in scorching sun.....get told to try again tomorrow....:ok:

.......When you can't go through the security gate to get to your hangar as no female security officer. So you have to go through the other security gate find the lady officer and walk :p round to the hanger....yet if it's before 8am/after 1530pm you have to go through the domestic terminal gate and be driven alllllllllll the way around airside back to the international airport...= add 2 hours prior to take-off...:zzz:

......When ATC scold you for holding incorrectly as apparently 'hold' does not mean orbit...it means hover....at 500ft....:confused:

......when they won't let you back to your aircraft after watching you land, shut-down, get out, enter airport and pay landing charges etc....

......when 14 months on all you have is a pile of 3-day airport passes....

......when ATC offer chai :ok::ok::ok:

Always Incredible! :):)

[Capt Apache]

When husband and wife have problems, the whole jim-bang relatives turn out to console and advice and 'let you make the right decision' which, invariably means, to get back to the family, and not break up the family


Good Reminder

Where people don't keep running to psychiatrists and counsellors because they have a strong social support system.

Where two people often pushed together in the bed (Read arranged marriage) Stay together for the rest of their lives out of a sense of duty towards their children and sacrifice their own pleasures and desires

[dessas]

Mayday Mayday Maday
:mad:
Thread Drift!

I guess whoever started this meant it as a bit of eyeopener and fun.
So I go on as promised 3 weeks ago:
16. When on certain evenings/nights of the week you are not allowed in a lounge/bar if you are minus a dame (of course 200 rups buys you access).
17. When your next door cabbie in a traffic jam almost lands a red colored spit on your face (from chewing bettel nut).
18. When your own cabbie almost gets knocked by the next door one as he has to open his door to spit while driving, as his window is stuck shut.
19. When you find human excrement rather than animal one all over the place.
20. When a guy takes a piss 2 m from a bus stop with about a dozen women of all ages.
21. When you realize people are still been killed for reason of belonging to a lower caste and not belonging to this higher caste village (mind you all Indians pretend they come from the biggest democracy in the world).
To be continued...
:ok:

[dessas]

http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1600/475163/19671106/317133856.jpg
Morning woes...
Incredible India!!!
:mad:

[itsbrokenagain]

Quote:
Where children don't threaten to call 911 if their parents correct them
Qoute:
Even more true ..

Why? Thats because you cant call the police here, to get help you must first file a report and hope they accept your report for help!

Only in India would or could you see such a article in a national newspaper:

http://www.chrisandcin.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/deathbycorpse.JPG

[Capt Apache]

When you don't have to cough up millions for being sued by some dumb ass f*** for some stupid event he caused in the first place

Where every state speaks a different language,follows different customs even cooks differently and has a different traditional attire and yet has unity in its diversity as a country.

[Capt Apache]

Whats more disgusting is that someone took that picture Dessas.India is a poor country.We all know that.

[Capt Apache]

Why? Thats because you cant call the police here, to get help you must first file a report and hope they accept your report for help!




Try calling 100 next time

[Capt Apache]

Where cops are underpaid,work 24/7 very often,are poorly trained,are poorly equipped,live under a constant threat of transfers by corrupt politicians for being honest and are completely understaffed to deal with the population at hand....and yet find the courage to pursue and capture an armed terrorist with bare hands

How did Asi Tukaram Omble capture the Terrorist Alive ……………… Let’s Salute this COP who Sacrificed his life to capture the Terrorist alive…….. deepan (http://babudeepan.com/2008/12/13/how-did-asi-tukaram-omble-capture-the-terrorist-alive-lets-salute-this-cop-who-sacrificed-his-life-to-capture-the-terrorist-alive/)

Tukaram Omble - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tukaram_Omble)

Such news articles are also found only in India :mad:

[IndAir967]

Whats even funnier ?
These guys who are making fun of India were actually kicked out from their own country, jobless ! So they come to India, a country which gives them a job and helps them survive.. but instead of being greatfull they make fun ! As I said constructive criticism is always welcome ! But these rogues think great of themselves and have actually forgotten what their situation was before they landed up in my country !! Haa Haa .. You Dogs, go find a job in your own country and then make fun of my country ! If not shut deleted up and keep the blue side up ! Jai Hind !


Make your point by all means but keep the bad language out of it.
Moderator

[AEUENG]

When taxiing out to the RW27 hold at BOM and seeing the guys in the slums taking a dump at the top of the little mound next to the taxiway with kids playing cricket about 10 yards away batting around the turds! It brings it home to you! :}

[Left Wing]

IndAir967... like your sense of pride .... :ok:...

don't stoop to the level of others who are bored in their hotel rooms nothing better to do....

[Capt Apache]

When you are in a land that is surrounded by enemies and yet has the strongest tradition of non violence (from the days of the Mahabharat when the Pandavs shunned violence for half their lives in hope of a peaceful resolution,to Buddha and Emperor Asoka(who preached Buddhism to the farthest reaches of South Asia),To Gandhi (Who observed restraint even as he shed tears at Jallianwalla bagh--Look what the Brits did to us here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jallianwala_Bagh_massacre),to more recently by Prime Minister Manmohan Singh who according to me is an unsung hero of Non violence.Look at his demeanor towards Pakistan(even after 26/11) and China and the Maoists.

We are not a WAR HUNGRY Nation of numbskulls

[IndAir967]

Make your point by all means but keep the bad language out of it.
Moderator


Wilco !
IAC967:ok:

[Capetonian]

..... when newspapers provide beautifully anachronistic and eccentric usage of the English language. The quality newspapers are written in the English of the 1940’s referring to ‘outrage at the dastardly acts of these bounders’, in articles about the frequently occurring minor frauds and scams. Although the standard of writing is high, there are many factual errors and amusing misprints, such as the man who appeared with a ‘two day growth of bread on his chin’, or the man so incensed about his wife’s continual chatting that he returned home one evening with ‘stout stick in hand and proceeded to eat her with self same stick’. Until reading this, I had no idea that cannibalism was alive and well in India. These errors, or for a further example, a two-wheeler becoming a ‘two willer’, will not be corrected by conventional spell checkers.

Arranged, rather than forced, marriages are frequent and acceptable. Sunday newspapers carry pages of ‘Matrimonials’ - adverts placed by parents, categorised by caste, religion, profession, and educational qualifications, or even ‘green card holders’. These really are advertisements in the true sense of the word, extolling the virtues of their offspring, all of whom are ‘extremely handsome’, ‘beautiful’, ‘fair and graceful’, ‘wheatish slim’, ‘talented and charming’, or at the very least ‘smart in appearance and well qualified’. One assumes that the less favoured find their own partners. A major selling point is a US visa, the exact type and validity of this being specified in the announcement.

The most frequently requested characteristics are : ‘clean habits’, ‘cultured family’, ‘graduated’, ‘proper height’, ‘fair’, whilst education and profession are other criteria. Most ask for ‘bio-data and horoscope’, some even request ‘recent full and close-up photos of professional quality’. As always in India, highly cryptic abbreviations abound along with phrases such as ‘lofty personal traits in spouse are solicited’.

[Capt Apache]

When you are in the only country with two enemy neighbours that are nuclear powers (Holy S***)....and yet you are in the only country with a 'No first use policy' on nuclear weapons.

[GlueBall]

Split aircon units indiscriminatly mounted all around the outside walls of buildings; including on newly constructed homes and apartments with zero insulation. :confused:

[tangowithtushar]

great post captenoin i can't help but:D:D in awe of your observation, it was a refreshing change. We as a country need a social change more than an economic one i can live with the bureaucratic bottlenecks abject poverty nepotism rade tape, but how can i even breathe properly in a place where my religion and my last name becomes a bone of contention for discrimination against me, leading newspapers offer free ads for people who want to marry some one irrespective of his/her religion caste,widow/widower etc. but does it help in any way when a trivial issue over vande matram which was sung by a.r rehman himself becomes a national level issue and religious leaders escalate it to suit their own evil designs not even bothering what a common man be it hindu or muslim feels about it.. even in the so called urban delhi a muslim boy in his early twenties would have a hard time getting an accommodation why?? because even after 60 years of independence we continue to live how the british left us,

can a hindu/ muslim/christian/sikh boy/girl even dare to marry some one of another religion without the scare of our lives becoming a national media issue and radical elements biting into our flesh well the probable answer being NO... :ouch:
will our "families" with a large army of relatives allow it to happen in the first place without killing our happines?? even when the court of law considers me legally mature enough to choose my life partner:ugh:
i know this is an aviation forum and my post might qualify as a rant of an idle mind.. i might not have been able to pen my thoughts properly but being an Indian i dream of an India where my virtues and deeds are placed higher than my religion..:ok:

p.s recent incident - i was scorned at by my own relatives at family gathering for sporting a beard which according to them made me look like a person of a particular community.
i would love to see their faces when they realize i enjoy eating beef hahah;)

lets be proud of our different cultures and traditions instead of beating our chests about how secular our country is...when in fact most of our basic human rights stand infringed on the very grounds of religion.

[Wannabe Flyer]

Checking into hospital with stomach cramps and vomitting when you are caught in a 3 billion dollar scam reaching the 4 corners of the earth :ok:

[Al Fakhem]

When there's a brewery not even 30 km away but your beer is hauled some 500 km on a truck from Madras because of the inflexible bureaucracy.

Oh...and the truck carrying your beer belches out thick diesel exhaust fumes and has "Save oil - Save India" painted across the back.

[Capt Apache]

how can i even breathe properly in a place where my religion and my last name becomes a bone of contention for discrimination against me


You should thank your stars that your colour is not the bone of contention
Try looking at the glass half full.


because even after 60 years of independence we continue to live how the british left us,



Thats is completely untrue.We have changed a lot and inspite of our Brahmanism and highly conservative culture have assimilated the Western Culture better than any country I can think of.


We as a country need a social change more than an economic one

NO.An economic change will bring a social change and vice versa.They are both intertwined and equally important.

The poverty wrenches my heart too but I dont sit around doing nothing about it.

There are others though who sit around reading newspapers while they fly cross country overtime and havent even scratched the surface of this sacred land and yet consider themselves fit to be an expert on India

[dessas]

Great post!
At least you lack the British hypocrisy so common of your people!
But it is still a bit of a thread hijack, like what your other fellow compatriots are doing.
Keep thinking!
:ok:

[shanx]

Again ....

all That Is Necessary For The Triumph Of Evil Is That The Good Men Do Nothing

[shanx]

dear tangowithtushar,

Im not sure if you have travelled and/or lived outside India.

In my brief stay of just over a year in the US (flight training), I have seen the glittering AND the "dark" side of USA ... atleast the dark side of certain places in California... more specifically in small towns and the countryside.

I have myself seen and witnessed the lousy and creepy life of some of the hispanic and african-american population there.
Have heard some really poignant stories of American parents forcing their kids to get into drug dealings.
Have seen people living in utmost poverty and crime/prostitution being their sources of income.

I have seen an all out bloody street fight between a "white gang" and a "black gang", while driving back with friends after some grocery shopping.

Yes, physical/sexual abuse of children and women VERY MUCH happens in the west too.

USA is not just about Las Vegas, LA, NYC, Microsoft, Boeing, NASA, Hooters, Beaches and babes etc ...
It ALSO has a dark, creepy, horrible side which few people see or get to know about ...

Yes, I fully agree India has a dark side much bigger than the dark side in the US ... but with such a pessimistic attitude, we're only going to get darker.

It is better to light a candle than curse the darkness.

having said that, I will always be grateful to the USA for allowing me to study there, receive quality education/training, explore some beautiful and picturesque places and get a chance to meet some great people and make some wonderful friends.

P.S ... Regarding your beard ... TRUST ME ... you're far safer here in India sporting your beard than in the US of A... atleast from the way I have seen it and heard from a LOT of my friends in the US.

[sunny441]

looking at the literacy rates in the USA we Brits didn't do much of a job there either.

Amen!

Americans think they are a "english-speaking" country and are better since they speak the language. Unfortunately 95% of the Americans are bad at spelling. Some of my friends cannot spell words like Wednesday and engineering - and these are teachers at the high school level.

[Wannabe Flyer]

Unfortunately 95% of the Americans are bad at spelling. Some of my friends cannot spell words like Wednesday and engineering - and these are teachers at the high school level

Love the hinglish this side of the world and some of the brilliant spellings we have here

Thankfully there is Spell check is everywhere, now if only people figured out how to use it :confused:

Now can we get back to the humorous side of things. Sub continent for the most part can enjoy ourselves laughed at so let it roll guys and lets dispense with the emotional and other B/S stuff here.

Laugh and the world laughs with you, Cry and do so alone in some corner

[shanx]

---> 100% attendance in movie theatres (house full !) ,

---> 100% bookings in resorts, parties, DJ nights in Goa, Delhi, Bombay etc

---> jam packed bars, hookah lounges, discos etc ...

BUT ... barely 40% voter turnout on polling day during elections is THE ROOT CAUSE OF THE STATE OF AFFAIRS IN INDIA.


WE, the people, get what we deserve.

[tangowithtushar]

when one has 5 cfl's 4 light bulbs and three tube lights etc and few other necessary appliances
and then one find day you open your mailbox to find an electricity bill of 57,000 rs for three months :uhoh::uhoh::D:D
with the sarkari babus sending you intimations of non payment week after week and threatening to cut your connection.

although the bill gets sorted out after 5 months of running after the babus and paying 6,000 as bribe in total, for a bill which was supposed to be 12,000rs:confused:

all because the sarkari computer fu:mad:ked it up!!:ugh::ugh:

[fhegner]

when a woman in Indias largest newspaper is referred to as a

'.....actor known as a serial kisser'!:

An actress went out for dinner with Headley? - India - The Times of India (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/An-actress-went-out-for-dinner-with-Headley/articleshow/5241598.cms)

when the first Volvo trucks were delivered in Chennai, the driver only used the 4 first gears - outta 12 - on the 1200 miles to Mumbai, due to his lack of knowledge of the 'high - low' gear switch.

[shanx]

fhegner,

The ACTOR being referred to as "the serial kisser" is indeed an ACTOR .. a male ... his name is EMRAAN HASHMI.

Emraan Hashmi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emraan_Hashmi)

[fhegner]

Uups...a bummer!
anyway man or woo-man, I still find it kinda wierd....

[airflirt]

come on guys, any indian will heartily take a laugh at his cost.
i know subcontinent, when
1. you exit the terminal and all you see is a sea of heads, some turbaned and most not, all going in waves to somewhere.
2. you are on the road you feel like taking a leak right now. never had that feeling in US
3. the first haggle in ages with the taxicabwalla who asks for the moon but finally settles for much less.
4. hindi songs in full blare from all directions.
there is a lot more.
india is unique. world will be poorer if india changes its ways.
vibrancy, nervous energy, happiness even in poverty, lion heartedness and corruption in all its glory
india is great. long live india.

[King on a Wing]

"When you smell it before you reach there..."
(ever wondered what that 'stench' coming thru ur FOV during approach 27 is...???)
Its MUMBAI!

[Roj approved]

ATC - "You have 24 track miles and are 8000 feet, adjust descent"
(we have a 90 degree or more turn onto final)

ME - "On Profile"

ATC - "Minimum Approach speed"

ME - "ROJ"

Can't they do the 3 times tables?
You control and just let me fly the aircraft:rolleyes:

I already have a slowdown plan, like minimum speed is going to help, its just going to make me work harder and slow everyone behind me :ugh:

I know a lot of carrier slow to min clean at 30DME, but it isn't required if you know how to handle your aircraft.:ok:

[rdr]

Roj approved

I wonder who approved you in the first place.

Hey my friend, you are not the only one in the sky, so try not to tell the controllers what to do as they have the big picture.
The way this job functions is to be flexible and fit your self into the scheme of things.
In addition to guys behind you, there are guys in the front, on taxiways, and gates, runway considerations, VIP traffic..........etc, etc...

Most of all, ihe approach phase is not the time to get all cynical.

Btw, i've just had a very much below average ATC performance in the US and Europe. But, the job had to be, and got done.

[itsbrokenagain]

rdr what are you talking about?

Did you read what that person wrote, I cannot see where they were telling atc what to do.... pull your head in mate.

[rdr]

this is typical of your anti India bitching itsbrokeagain. maybe you can try to contribute to the points instead of your usual one line crap. if you cant, then do something useful with your right hand in jerking motions which in your case probably lasts 3 seconds.

had a superb controller the other night on 127.9 doing around 50 a/c in a space of 40 minutes. the only problem he had, was with some domestic a/c either not listening out, or others asking for confirmation of straightforward atc instructions as a matter of habit, rather than neccessity. these caused interruptions to this fantastic oneman show.

[Boeing7xx]

@rdr - 127.9 Where? And have a sense of humor mate... Stuff happens... its funny... Its not anything personal.

Has anyone experienced the "Standby for startup" yet? In our case the standby meant 35 minutes....

[rdr]

ya you're right Boeing7xx, it is funny if you actually waited 35 mins when told to "standby for start." but then, stuff happens doesnt it ??
btw, where did you learn to fly ??

[Boeing7xx]

rdr - CPL frm Patiala, after that i became a govt. servant.

[VIMANMAN]

:confused:Looks like somebody woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning:eek:

[itsbrokenagain]

rdr like I say and others say get a sense of humor man, this is a forum and this is meant to be a light hearted forum about some of the different things seen in India.... I suggest you hit the ignore button for anyone that has posted a funny story about flying in india, that way you wont have to read what offends you !

[Pushpak]

B7XXX, which year were you in Patiala?

[itsbrokenagain]

When a Check Pilot riding in the jump seat but assigned to be just a non flying crew member hitching a ride pulls a circuit breaker on finals into Mumbai `just to see his reaction to failures''. (ie the PIC's reactions)

WTF!!... he would have a black eye if I was the Pilot flying

[Wannabe Flyer]

Or

According to a Kingfisher official, the hijack alarm code was triggered because its frequency is very close between two other frequencies in use.



False hijack alarm on Kingfisher flight (http://www.indianexpress.com/news/False-hijack-alarm-on-Kingfisher-flight/548818)

[Boeing7xx]

rdr - 91 pilots.

[fhegner]

When flight no AI-187 Delhi-Amritsar-London-Toronto, was grounded when a rat jumped onto the plane while the passengers were boarding the aircraft in Amritsar. The flight was delayed for eleven hours...
And one week later when a rat (maybe the same, hooked on flying?) on the AI Riyadh-bound plane at Calicut airport was spotted by one of the cabin crew .....

from dnaindia.com:

The engineers are inspecting the plane and a relief aircraft is being dispatched from Mumbai to ferry the stranded passengers to their destination, an Air India spokesperson said.

The flight was scheduled to take off from Calicut airport at 2 pm. "A cabin crew spotted a rat in the aircraft, following which all the passengers were off-loaded. The engineers have been called in to inspect the aircraft," the spokesperson said.

Since there is no fumigation facility available at the Calicut Airport and a physical inspection would take time, a relief plane along with crew is being worked out from Mumbai, the spokesperson said, adding all the passengers have been lodged in hotels. Engineers and technical staff of the airlines apprehended that the rat could damage the wiring.

[itsbrokenagain]

You know can only be on the sub-continent when you read a notam like this:

VOBG

A1497/08 - BIRD WATCHERS WITH RED FLAGS DEPLOYED ON SHOULDERS OF RWY. RED FLAGS RAISED IS AN INDICATION OF POSN OF BIRDS TO TWR CONTROLLER ONLY. PILOTS TKOF/LDG TO IGNORE THE SAME. 30 OCT 05:15 2008 UNTIL PERM. CREATED: 30 OCT 09:19 2008

[Almendrudo]

When the servant who is assigned to your room takes a cockroach with his bare hands and then continue to serve lunch to guests without washing his hands

[Charlie Alfa]

When you see people caughting fishs in the middle of the streets that are all flooded.

When at each minute the driver use the Horn.

When you can´t drive by our company policy.

When some PIC from South america don´t have any license, so they receive a boarding pass, do check-in and after go to the flight deck and drive around the plane.

When the people stole the ILS.

When the security guys of a shopping center have an AK-47

Miss very much India, a very nice country with very nice people, have been there for 3 years.

[jammydonut]

When the starting blocks start and paper replaced by a jug of water

[gearpins]

when by the time you finish a flight you feel you have accomplished a mission and take pride in bringing the bird home...
followed by some chicken tikka and a dash of whisky to wash out the adrenaline....
while in other parts of the globe....everything works as advertised....
cheers to chinese ATC, indian pilots,indonasian radar...
I still feel like a pilot..
plan to enjoy it while it lasts....!!!

[stratocruiser1967]

sasria kaal ji, copy to all ji !!
when by the time you finish a flight you feel you have accomplished a mission and take pride in bringing the bird home...
followed by some chicken tikka and a dash of whisky to wash out the adrenaline....
while in other parts of the globe....everything works as advertised....
cheers to chinese ATC, indian pilots,indonasian radar...
I still feel like a pilot..
plan to enjoy it while it lasts....!!!

-well said my friend. It is fun to fly here! My cabin crew think reject takeoffs are caused by cows on the runway! And if you can't take the ****- look the other way and hold your breath.

[halas]

Wow! I didn't realize there were so many sensitive Indian folk out there.

- When a NOTAM mentions "recarpetting" (sic).
-Continuous light chop from coast to coast at night (something to do with diet?)
-Confirm your confirmation of a confirmed and conformed with confirmation - confirm?
-Expedite.... everything!
-Talking to ATC that don't even appear on the charts...Mangalor
-Listening to ATC issue instructions at 150% of your personal capacity of comprehension.
-The guy cutting grass next to the taxiway taking a dump.
-Going around due dog.
-Hold position due dog.
-Hold position due airport worker wandering home.
-Being given a final ZFW that is three tonnes less than the actual ZFW.
-Carbon paper between all paper work in the flight deck.

halas

[weido_salt]

When a police 4 x 4 is carrying out a 3-point turn on a busy road, cars banked up, and no horns of course. Cop driver on the Mobil throughout the whole manoeuvre, and not one seat belt worn among the 3 souls on board, all cops.:}

[IndAir967]

Talking to ATC that don't even appear on the charts...Mangalor


I am surprised ! We have Mangalore Control on all our charts :cool:

[itsbrokenagain]

Aircraft on freq with stuck mike, of course you can talk over them, I hear:

Indian accent pilot - "Aircraft with stuck mike this is captain of AI101 your mike is stuck we cant talk"

American accent pilot - "Ya know he cant hear you as he has a stuck mike"

Indian accent pilot - "Kolkata this is AI101, there is an aircraft with a stuck mike please have them reported immediately as we cannot give RT to you"

Kolkata - AI101 Rog we are aware of this

....... and these guys are captains!

[Roj approved]

When you are taxiing out at VECC and a worker is walking across the tarmac talking on his phone.

All the ground staff (about 12 people) start shouting, waving and chasing him around, he runs around in circles like a headless chicken before disappearing into the long grass and squatting down so he can't be seen.

LMAO:}

[gearpins]

"All the ground staff (about 12 people) start shouting, waving and chasing him around, he runs around in circles like a headless chicken before disappearing into the long grass and squatting down so he can't be seen."
ROJ
LOL...... in splits, all night long picturising the scene....:D
how did you manage to fly?:)

[fhegner]

In early 80'ties we (wife and I) had a 18 hours stop over in Dhaka (just built Shahjalal Airport) before ongoing flight, turist information nowhere to be seen, so we ask friendly immigration guy if he know decent hotel near?
He laid a hand on my shoulder, looked straight into my eyes and said with softened voice :

"No no Mister, no need going town its far
and hotel also very exspensivel. Up the stairs here is a unused depature lounge with chairs and ac. You can stay, no problem. And if you need beer or 'wine', use taxfree.... I've the boy show you both. Also I'll get you some blankets for the night." (maybe I tought, he opened like his own Hotel Dhaka Airport....?)

Passing the fairly well assorted tax-free shop, I was relieved to see the long wait, could be shortened with some Heineken brew and Finnish liquorice.

Upstairs was a huge lounge lights on, fully furnitured big soft chairs/sofas (!) thick wall to wall carpet and not a single soul. Excellent!

After some furniture rearrangement in our new 2500 sq feet room, I went for a six-pack + liquorice, Toblerone + Coke for the she.
Just finished first can, when the immigration guy came with blankets..... and to hear if needed anything more. Food I asked...it was late now he explainded so only plastic wrapped s/w. We accepted...nice hospitable plp, I thought.
He returned with the food (nothing to write home about, but food never the less)
I offered him a beer which he - after looking over both shoulders, multo gracias then explaining that he was not allowed to drink when at work, but he will enjoy later.
The beer disappeared within the baggy bengali pants ....
After a while and hesitating a little, he said :

"Can you do me a small favour, Sir"
Me: "How can I help?"
"Can you buy six beer in taxfree shop, I give you one. I'm not allowed to buy" he said, while discretely slide dollar bills into my jeans pocket.
Me: "No problem..give me five minutes"

Down the shop me just put up a big smile and a 'oh yes' to the comment:
"You must be very thisty, Mister!"

I handed over the 'treasure' to the bengali, now with a big smile after the compulsive look over shoulder. After loosening all the cans and hand over my part of the contrabande, they were arranged one in jacket and 4 with duct tape unto his legs (!) perfectly camuflaged by the loose baggy clothing.....(one in the jacket prbl backsish to 'some')

About an hour passed then my friend came back. Didn't take me many
seconds to know that he wanted another favour done: His friends was having a party and bla bla.....
No prob. Me down the dead escalator to the 'filling station'.
When I handed $ 6 to the guy behind counter, he wasn't smiling. The end of our scam? A mole among us...disturbing thoughts
he's looked like the CO of AA branch Dhaka when he said:
This is the last S/P I can sell you....(by the look of his face, in his mind I have had enough) Or muslim fundamentalist? Bad luck ...for my beer runner!

Upstairs my friend, after I told him to depressing news, calmly adjusted to the new situation. Tomorrow morning we will eat genuin bengali fish curry at the staff canteen.
3 beers saved for the occation....

Nice stay and great food with the staff et al. the next day. It turned out that my friend never drank these imported beer, hardly touched booze at all. It was 'only' a money thing - the Heineken sold for 3-5 buck outside.