Pugachev Cobra
9th Oct 2009, 22:53
Hello mates!
Sorry if this isn't the right forum for posting this, but I can't think of another one...
This is a merely informative curious questioning.
ATC operational positions have some abbreviations designated to them, like:
ACC - Area Control Center
APP - Approach Control
DEP - Departure Control
TWR - Tower Control
Now, these are all straightforward. But more than often I see two designations for these last 2 positions:
DEL or CLRD - Clearance Delivery
GND or GNDC - Ground Control
I used DEL and GND, and a couple of pilots corrected me emphatically about Clearance Delivery being CLRD, and never saw DEL being used. And also, that GND has the last C, being GNDC. However I keep seeing it mentioned on several sites. For instance, AFAIK liveatc.net only mentions DEL, never CLRD.
But I only see CLRD and GNDC on aerodrome charts.
I've just reviewed ICAO Doc 8400 abbreviations and codes, and there is no mention to any of these abbreviations. Also I glanced at Annex 4, but still no luck.
Can anyone clarify this for me?
Are the two abbreviations correct?
If someone knows about a chart or country which has a chart with DEL and/or GND written for denoting the frequency, please direct me to where I could find it.
Thank you for your time.
Sorry if this isn't the right forum for posting this, but I can't think of another one...
This is a merely informative curious questioning.
ATC operational positions have some abbreviations designated to them, like:
ACC - Area Control Center
APP - Approach Control
DEP - Departure Control
TWR - Tower Control
Now, these are all straightforward. But more than often I see two designations for these last 2 positions:
DEL or CLRD - Clearance Delivery
GND or GNDC - Ground Control
I used DEL and GND, and a couple of pilots corrected me emphatically about Clearance Delivery being CLRD, and never saw DEL being used. And also, that GND has the last C, being GNDC. However I keep seeing it mentioned on several sites. For instance, AFAIK liveatc.net only mentions DEL, never CLRD.
But I only see CLRD and GNDC on aerodrome charts.
I've just reviewed ICAO Doc 8400 abbreviations and codes, and there is no mention to any of these abbreviations. Also I glanced at Annex 4, but still no luck.
Can anyone clarify this for me?
Are the two abbreviations correct?
If someone knows about a chart or country which has a chart with DEL and/or GND written for denoting the frequency, please direct me to where I could find it.
Thank you for your time.