Snobby BA

[HighFlyingSpanner]

Travelling on a short Euro hop recently on a BA 737. Sat a few rows behind the "Club Europe" area (which is empty but for 2 passengers).

Feel an urge to answer a call of nature, and see a very long queue for the toilet at the rear of the aircraft.

I make my way forward to use the forward lavatory only to be greeted by some snotty git in a waistcoat and a very abrupt "I'm going to have to send you to the back"

Now, I understand Club Europe passengers have paid extra for their own bog, but when the section is all but empty, is there really any need to hark back to feudal times?

It's small wonder that BA is losing out to low-cost airlines.....

[Final 3 Greens]

Now, I understand Club Europe passengers have paid extra for their own bog, but when the section is all but empty, is there really any need to hark back to feudal times?

It's :mad: like you who ruin the Club Europe experience.

The cabin is meant to be exclusive, which means that the people who pay a substantial for the service expect a bit of peace and quiet, not to have everyone trailing through.

Well done to the CC member for keeping the service level sorted, I'm sure she could have done without the aggro.

[smandkjc]

If they let you use it they would immediately have the rest of the queue turn around and use the front lav as well.
Maybe there were only 2 people in the front cabin but they have paid for the exclusive lav and would be rightly upset if you were allowed to use their lav.
Try paying for the front of the plane one day and see how you feel then when the rear cabin want to use the facilities you have paid extra for.

[Dogs_ears_up]

Know what? As crew with somebody else, I'd send you back too, and quite cheerfully: I wouldn't lose a moments sleep about doing so.

The Business cabin on any aircraft has a price premium. You pay the price in order to use the facilities associated with it. Unless I've missed something, you decided not to pay for an upgraded product, then unilaterally decided that you had the right to use what you hadn't paid for, then berated the crew for preventing you, then posted a complaint about it with a malicious (and inaccurate) title in here.

As pointed out above, the issue is about other customers who have paid the premium. The world does not revolve around you.

[HighFlyingSpanner]

The cabin is meant to be exclusive, which means that the people who pay a substantial for the service expect a bit of peace and quiet, not to have everyone trailing through.

Oh come off it. Half of the people in there have their seat paid for by their company and take pleasure in looking down their nose at "ordinary" passengers.

Whilst I can understand the benefit of paying extra on long haul (and indeed I generally do pay extra) for some peace and quiet, this kind of snobbery has no place in the modern short-haul market.

[Final 3 Greens]

this kind of snobbery has no place in the modern short-haul market.

Well take Ryanair or easyJet then, you'll like it, everyone is equal.

[HighFlyingSpanner]

Well take Ryanair or easyJet then, you'll like it, everyone is equal.

Oh, believe me, I intend to.

I'm quite taken aback that people are rushing to the defence of this archaic airborne elitism.

[GANNET FAN]

I spy chips on shoulders!!

[Load Toad]

You want the fancy toilet and the soft toilet paper? You pay the fare or get someone to pay it for you.

[g21agoose]

Half of the people in there have their seat paid for by their company and take pleasure in looking down their nose at "ordinary" passengers.

That's one person.............one............:ugh:

[HighFlyingSpanner]

I have no doubt this kind of behaviour is one of the reasons for BA's huge loss in the last financial year.

Outdated, abrasive, and utterly un called-for.

[Wannabe Flyer]

BA does tend to be a bit snobby. In this case however I am for what the CC did. Premium means just that regardless of who pays or who gets upgraded, as long as your are there rules apply. If you dont like it go LCC

[763 jock]

HFS.

Money talks. In every aspect of life. I noticed this as a kid. You get what you pay for. :ok:

On FR, you'll be paying to stand in the queue for the loo.

[barry lloyd]

I have no doubt this kind of behaviour is one of the reasons for BA's huge loss in the last financial year.

Outdated, abrasive, and utterly un called-for.

Not really, it's been going on for 35 years to my certain knowledge. Now, put yourself virutally in the Club cabin which you obviously so despise, free of charge and just for a moment.
You're (let's put this delicately) feeling uncomfortable, and need to use the loo in a hurry, but there are two economy class pax in front of you - now how do you feel? Uncomfortable and frustrated I imagine, and explaining your predicament to the other pax doesn't necessarily work either -maybe they don't understand. So what would you do?
By the way, I don't do Club/Business/whatever in Europe, so I'm usually the 'wrong' side of the curtain too!

[Katamarino]

There's really no reason to have to use the lav on a short haul anyway, unless you have bladder control issues.

To echo the posters above, if you want it then pay for it! Got to love the modern sense of free entitlement to anything that people decide they want...I suppose that because all the seats there were empty, you think you should have been entitled to move to them too?

[HighFlyingSpanner]

Seems the snobbery is even more widespread than I had first suspected.

[wowzz]

Snobbery has nothing to do with it. As many other replies have stated, you get what you pay for, plain and simple.
As someone who now has to pay for my own flights, when I pay extra for peace and quiet, I expect to get what I pay for, otherwise why should I pay the extra in the first place ?.
And don't forget, that BA and every other carrier would rather have a full club section and no 'economy' travellers at all from a profit point of view. The more people that 'abuse' club, the less people will be prepared to pay the extra, thus further reducing BA's profitability. I am sure BA would rather have my custom than yours anyday from a profit point of view.

[Der absolute Hammer]

But then-I think-HighFlyingSpanner-(scion of the high flying socialists?)-that if you had successfully relieved yourself in the Club Europe section, you would pat yourself on the back. You would fall about laughing that you had weed in the toilet provided for those who had paid more than you and you would have written a note on these pages also to that effect. So you expect top pay the cheap price and have a laugh at the world with the candle at both ends. I think not in this case. You were sent about your business quite correctly by a brave and most stalwart cabin attendant. Sure-I would have tried to do what you did-but I would have retreated with a wry smile and good grace.

The trouble with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of everyone else's money.

[r1flyguy35]

For christ's sake lets hope you don't fall over and cut yourself, if there is no first aid kit left in 'lower class' then you will just have to bleed to death as you can't use that allocated for snobbery class :D

By the way, that's a joke, just wish to make that clear before you climb aboard the high horse! :ok:

[Final 3 Greens]

Mmmmmm.

Trolling perhaps??

[HighFlyingSpanner]

I don't want to tout socialism, I just want to have a wee!

What if I had a serious bladder condition/extreme diarrhea..... would the same tinpot trolley-pusher have allowed me to soil myself to maintain the integrity of the Club Europe sanctum?

[Final 3 Greens]

Definitely a troll:=

[Der absolute Hammer]

If I were sitting in Club Europe, as a paying passenger-I would definitely hope that you would soil yourself down at the rear end rather than pollute my pleasant WC cabinaet with whetever loathsome garbage you had been eating and processing.
As for a bladder infection-I would not want your dribbles on my seat!
I agree. A troll and a wee one at that!

[G-BPED]

Definitely a troll:=

A troll with a weak bladder it would seem :}

[Bushfiva]

Me three. Check the other bursts of erudition in other fora. Troll.

[HighFlyingSpanner]

I must say I am disappointed with the responses - surely I am not the only air passenger who would feel aggrieved at being urinated on simply for having the urge to urinate?

[Bushfiva]

You're not doing this right. You're sussed. What you're supposed to do is start a new thread somewhere else.

[HighFlyingSpanner]

Were I a "troll" as you wrongly claim, I would doubtless do so....

[Final 3 Greens]

Time for this thread to die.......

[Beer_n_Tabs]

I must say I am disappointed with the responses - surely I am not the only air passenger who would feel aggrieved at being urinated on simply for having the urge to urinate?


Not that I have had the pleasure of sitting up the front end very often, but if I were and you wanted to use the bog...then fair enough.

So long as you don't mind me walking down the rear while you are in the high priced bog, and snapping off a large curly one on your seat should I need to go at the same time.

You get what you pay for....you didn't pay, therefore you didn't get

You're a bit of a tit really aren't you !!

[GGR]

What if I had a serious bladder condition/extreme diarrhea..... would the same tinpot trolley-pusher have allowed me to soil myself [/QUOTE]

You really are a the snob here chum! The inverted one! How dare you refer to CC in this way. Reality is, if you genuinely were ill and in distress in this way, the same CC would do EVERYTHING to assist you. You've answered your own question.

Semper en excreta solum profundum variat. CC motto!!

GGR

[Agaricus bisporus]

Fascinating thread - the levels of inverse snobbery in the UK never cease to amaze.

But please, what does "troll" mean - not familiar with that one?

[Union Jack]

Troll or not, HFS is clearly shovelling something nasty and sticky uphill, and either way it's knobbery on his part, not snobbery on BA's. His best bet is to buy some business class incontinence pads to cope with his apparent tendency towards incontinence and diaorrhea, whether real or verbal.

Jack

PS They should work on all airlines with no waiting - and no charge on FR in the future!:ok:

[Ancient Observer]

Why don't you go over to a railways forum and moan on there? They are the ones that invented classes of travel.
You're still not allowed to stand in First if you only have an economy ticket!

Your description of CC was a little less than charming.

[Union Jack]

It get's worse..................


http://www.blogcdn.com/www.gadling.com/media/2009/02/first_class_vs_coach-%5Bgadling%5D.jpg
If only HFS had been wearing his incontinence pads ......:)

[HighFlyingSpanner]

The bottom line is that I am disgusted by the behaviour of an airline who are supposedly the setters of high standards in the industry.

[TightSlot]

It would appear that the disgust cuts both ways.