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wskwong
9th Aug 2009, 06:10
hey all.....for those who get trainned in spins and spirals during their PPL, any thing that you can do to prevent yourself from getting dizzy?

toolowtoofast
9th Aug 2009, 07:27
How many rotations are you doing? There's a big difference between dizzynes and disorientaion. Do you get dizzy after doing 2-3 turns on your feet?

wskwong
9th Aug 2009, 09:04
I would say yes, even 2-3 times on an office chair!

clunk1001
9th Aug 2009, 09:26
try doing 2-3 spins the other way :ok:

clunk1001
9th Aug 2009, 10:52
or..... replace the seat in your training aircraft with your swivel office chair. That way when your aircraft spins - you'll remain stationary facing the same way.:ok:

selfin
9th Aug 2009, 15:53
US Armed Forces run desensitisation programmes. Look up Sopite Syndrome, AFTE, Self-Paced Airsickness Desensitization, etc.

TopGunGB
10th Aug 2009, 13:22
I used to feel a little dizzy during unusual attitudes as well. Before your flight, have a light lunch and have something to drink (preferably water). When you're in the aircraft, try to stay focused on the outside world and enjoy the experience. Spins are great fun, especially when you remember your instructor is there to make certain nothing goes pear-shaped. If that doesn't work for you, don't fret. You'll get used to the feeling soon enough. I know I did!

Hope this helps! Good luck with your training :ok:

IrishJetdriver
10th Aug 2009, 19:47
Keep head movement to a minimum by trying to look ahead over the nose. Disorientation can be quite severe until you get used to the motion. Some never do properly.

I could do spins and aeros but I still can't stand being spun round even on a kiddies roundabout.

Remember that wings were invented as a cure for motion sickness as they prevent the fuselage from rotating with the prop. You can also try sitting under a tree.

toolowtoofast
11th Aug 2009, 02:27
Keep head movement to a minimum by trying to look ahead over the nose. Disorientation can be quite severe until you get used to the motion. Some never do properly.
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This is good advice. Your inner ear can (does) suffer from 'coriolis effect' if you move your head in one plane, while your aeroplane is moving in another. This effect will cause dizzynes and motion sickness - reduce head movement during the manouvre to minimise/eliminate the effect. There is really good reading in the various Human Factors study books (especially at ATPL level.).

I have heard that before it was understood, this was the cause of many fast jet crashes when at low level, due to the positioning of various controls (the undercarriage selector in the early F104 was mentioned), and the repositioning of items that needed a visual check, while under high g loadings eliminated this diszzyness/disorientaion.