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manilajet
7th Aug 2009, 13:00
Hi guys! I need your help. I passed my FAA ATPL exam last 2007.

A company offered me a job. But, they wanted me to posses an FAA license to fly their a/c. The operation of this is outside U.S.A. and the a/c is still November registry.

Im currently ICAO ATPL license holder. They will send me to GA. for initial training. Should I look for an instructor that also an FAA examiner for my checkride and type rating?

Your input and comments are greatly appreciated.

Thank you so much in advance!

Trolle
7th Aug 2009, 13:25
I think you need to be more specific about your credentials. Am I assuming correct:

You have an FAA commercial, multi with instrument privileges? You passed the ATP written, but did not take the checkride?

You are offered a job but need some particular advice.

Does the company require an ATP? Do you have enough hours to obtain an FAA ATP?
If the company doesn't require an ATP, you have nothing to worry about.

If they do require an ATP then go to the US and do a weekend course with ATP (jee, that's not a confusing name in this post) or someone else. Better hurry since your written is only valid for 2 years after passing.

IRISHPILOT
7th Aug 2009, 14:11
Well done on getting that job!

I unserstand that you have done the FAA ATP theory in 2007. First check if it will be valid when you do the checkride, else you will have to retake it in the US.

With your ICAO ATPL, you should fulfill the FAA requirements, and I understand that the company flies you out to GA (Georgia, US) to give yout the rating training? Then all you need to do is to go a few days earlier, get a fresh FAA medical, do the written if needed and clear beforehand that your Designated Examiner who takes your rating checkride will also do your ATP checkride at the same time. Should be no problem, but make sure they know in advance and agree.

good luck! IP

manilajet
7th Aug 2009, 14:25
Thank you sir for the quick reply! I dont have any FAA license. I took the FAA ATPL exam in Dubai last May 2007. So, I think mine is already expired.

1)"You passed the ATP written, but did not take the checkride?"

Yeah my former employer only need us to pass the ATPL exams.

2)"Does the company require an ATP? Do you have enough hours to obtain an FAA ATP?"

I was offered to fly a GII, so I guess I need an ATPL to fly that. I also have more than 6000 hrs on B737 series with command.

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Tinstaafl
7th Aug 2009, 21:17
You may also have to go through the TSA approval process.

manilajet
8th Aug 2009, 05:05
Thank you so much guys for the clarifications! :D :ok:

Trolle
9th Aug 2009, 19:10
Wait, you took the ATP (no L in the US) written but do not have any FAA licenses? Does your employer know this? If not, you may in for a nasty surprise if they are expecting you to show up with an FAA commercial, multi, instrument.

My understanding is that you can't just show up with your licenses and get the FAA equivalent. However, you should easily pass them with your experience. This does though require you passing the written and practical exams.

How did you apply and get a job offer without knowing the requirements, if you are guessing that you need an ATP to fly a GII (you don't, unless the company requires it).

B2N2
9th Aug 2009, 23:44
14 CFR 61.153 Eligibility requirements for ATP

Amongst other things it states:

(3) Hold either a foreign airline transport pilot or foreign commercial pilot license and an instrument rating, without limitations, issued by a contracting State to the Convention on International Civil Aviation.

(e) Meet the aeronautical experience requirements of this subpart that apply to the aircraft category and class rating sought before applying for the practical test;

(f) Pass a knowledge test on the aeronautical knowledge areas of §61.155(c) of this part that apply to the aircraft category and class rating sought;

(g) Pass the practical test on the areas of operation listed in §61.157(e) of this part that apply to the aircraft category and class rating sought; and

So you hold an ICAO ATPL since you have command time 737.
You'll need to retake the US ATP written exam since it's expired and take a check ride with a US examiner.
This can also be done with a type rating re currency, get in contact with your training provider.

YarreYarran
10th Aug 2009, 02:29
Who long ATPL lasts...i mean after what time does it expires.

ITFC1
10th Aug 2009, 11:58
FAA ATP written last for 2 years, i think to the end of the month you took it in.

Either way, the guy who took his in May has expired.

You will aslo need the TSA approval and dont forget to travel without this now.

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You dont need the ATP fo fly PIC of the GII, if you flying it part 91. You only need a valid ATP if you are part 121 and i think part 135.

But if you got a ICAO ATPL then , its the case of written exam, Oral and fliight test at the end of the Type rating Course, plus the TSA etc.