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ericferret
2nd Jul 2009, 12:13
Will post this both on Private Flying and Rotorheads:
I have heard that the annual C of E can only be signed off three times (for 3 years) by the same person, then it has to be someone different.
I can't find anything in the rules about this.
Any info welcome.
Whirlygig
2nd Jul 2009, 12:35
Is this a JAA PPL? Or FAA?
Cheers
Whirls
Up & Away
2nd Jul 2009, 13:15
correct
Flight Tests Examiners Miscellaneous Guidance 2.4.3
29May09
Examiners should not conduct more than 3 (three) sequential tests(whether successful or not) on any student or rated applicant without prior approval of the CAA Staff FE (H) (Capt. Fred Cross)
:ok:
thwock
2nd Jul 2009, 16:13
when did that happen ?
Errr, whats a "C of E"? You mean an LPC?
Hughes500
2nd Jul 2009, 21:23
Not correct, LPC is a check not a test. So it is there in plain English, which makes a change !!!!!!!!
Mungo5
2nd Jul 2009, 23:22
whats a "C of E"? Church of England....
:ugh: sorry!! Hello coat, this is me, standby over.
spinwing
2nd Jul 2009, 23:43
Mmmmm ....
...... "Certificate of Experience" ???
:eek:
the beater
3rd Jul 2009, 07:08
Mmmmm ....
...... "Certificate of Experience" ???
Yes, that takes me back a bit, we haven't had them for years.
Initial licence issue - LST (Licence Skill Test)
Yearly check - LPC (Licence Proficiency Check)
Just to explain, for those that are fairly new to this subject, it used to be that once you had your licence all you needed to keep current was to fly 5 hours a year and get an authorised person (usually your instructor) to sign a Certificate of Experience. A simple paperwork exercise that didn't take into account any possible reduction in ability.
ericferret
3rd Jul 2009, 20:12
Sorry I used the expression "C or E" - it's straight off the top of the piece of paper in my licence where everything has been recorded for years.
So annual sign-off (on type or group). "Proficiency Check" as it says in my log book.
So what's the decision? That because it's a check and not a test, it's allowed for the same person to sign off more than 3 in a row?
Hughes500
3rd Jul 2009, 20:33
ericferret
Thats what it says you are being checked not tested so no problem