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OscarTangoRomeo
28th Jun 2009, 09:41
Hearing BA 777 and Emirates A330 clashed wings in Luanda yesterday - anyone got any more on this one.

Tokoloshe
29th Jun 2009, 09:00
It was a China Airlines A346 that hit the BA 777. The right winglet was removed from the 346 and the 777 is parked at the TAAG maintenance area with a chunk out of its left outboard aileron.
The parking in Luanda leaves a lot to be desired and this probably will not be the last incident.

DILLIGAFF
29th Jun 2009, 10:11
It was a Hainan Airways aircraft .What I heard on nights was that it arrived in the parking area too fast and 18 meters off line, tried to brake but the area was contaminated with skydrol and the aircraft skidded and hit our aircraft (G-RAES).:ugh: A replacement aileron has been borrowed from Boeing and is being shipped from LAX, will take a few days to get to LAD though.Team being sent out from LHR to do the repair.
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flyhardmo
29th Jun 2009, 12:11
Africa wins again

dangermouse1977
29th Jun 2009, 15:07
Full credit to the BA team on the ground though, I believe the collision occured at around 10am local, I had a call at 4pm telling me that I wouldn't be leaving Luanda that night.

By 19.30 myself and a colleague had been rebooked on TAP via Lisbon for the following morning.
I had to downgrade from F to J, given that TAP doesn't have an F, but that's a minor point.

Instead of landing LHR on Sunday at 8.30am, I landed Sunday at 22.30pm

I don't think that's too bad, given that Jo'Burg flights were all full due to the rugby, and Luanda isn't the easiest of places to get flights out of.

From speaking to some other people on the TAP flight though it appears I may have got lucky being sorted so quickly - some were reporting 3.5hr queues in LAD.

Anyway, I got to see the BA plane the following morning and the damage does appear pretty minor, still, with the apalling quality of ground staff there (try flying in on a chopper at a busy time of day.... scary) I'm sure it won't be the last incident.

What happens to the crew in this situation? LAD is normally minimum rest I understand.

daikilo
29th Jun 2009, 19:31
Given early morning arrival and late evening departure I guess that BA crew sleep and perform both flights.

Off Stand
29th Jun 2009, 20:56
Daikilo, you are correct. The flight only operates once a week, so the same crew arrive in the morning, little more than minimum rest and then operate home the same evening.

JanetFlight
29th Jun 2009, 22:49
Well...if the Bus drivers were just driving it the same way they drive cars in China...Wowwwww....i'm not surprised at all;)
But besides that "little" detail, i see the chinese pilots on a very professional way, truth must be said. Just take a look on the almost Zero_Number Chinese airline accidents these last years...Kudos:ok:

dangermouse1977
30th Jun 2009, 09:26
Yep, they also stay in a rather poor hotel.

They used to stay in the best hotel in town, but the prices went up and BA moved them.

What will happen to the crew for this plane then, will they fly on another carrier to SA and then home on BA, or will they sit around LAD until their plane is fit to fly again?

Off Stand
30th Jun 2009, 13:05
I have heard that the crew positioned back via LIS with TAP, although this wasn't from an official source, so I stand to be corrected.

flareout BC
1st Jul 2009, 09:47
Take it easy, buddy. The stuff happens in Westsern Europe if that's your motherland. And the US, too. I'm African, and I'm sensitive to views like yours... :)

Capetonian
1st Jul 2009, 21:45
...Africa wins again?

Take it easy, buddy. The stuff happens in Westsern Europe if that's your motherland. And the US, too. I'm African, and I'm sensitive to views like yours...

Correct. But 'the stuff' happens in Africa with greater frequency than in Western Europe and the US.

surely not
2nd Jul 2009, 02:59
Capetonian do u have any facts or are u going by gut feel?

Apart from it happening in Africa this accident has nothing to do with Africa. The crew that taxied in too fast and off the centre line were from China and the aircraft they hit was British so u could include 2 more continents in your appraisal of where is dangerous.

4HolerPoler
2nd Jul 2009, 04:58
Guys please quit the xenophobic slap-fest & stick with the story.

asacrj
2nd Jul 2009, 17:01
Apart from it happening in Africa this accident has nothing to do with Africa. The crew that taxied in too fast and off the centre line were from China and the aircraft they hit was British so u could include 2 more continents in your appraisal of where is dangerous.

Well said body.
It is just unfortunate that we will always have this one individual that will always bring the xenophobic card in the african forum

surely not
2nd Jul 2009, 17:21
errr you mean me?? Sorry I was responding to comment, not originating comment.

So why was there so much Skydrol on the apron?

dangermouse1977
15th Jul 2009, 13:29
quote = Off Stand

I have heard that the crew positioned back via LIS with TAP, although this wasn't from an official source, so I stand to be corrected.




No correction necessary, my official source confirms the same thing, also a replacement part was flown in from the USA and the aircraft repositioned back to the UK at the end of the week with no pax on board

thincatblue
16th Jul 2009, 13:22
flarout BC - I challenge you to compare airports like Lagos, Luanda and Kinshasha (all in Africa) to London, New York (or others or your choice in the West) and then honestly say that there is any comparison? - rather than being so defensive and denialist, try and spend your energy to improve these (and so many other) deficiencies in Africa