View Full Version : If One Wants to Leave PPRuNe.....


V2-OMG!
20th Jun 2009, 04:37
....how do we delete our account, or does it become an involuntary "legacy?"



arcniz
20th Jun 2009, 04:41
Life is an involuntary legacy, so why not also the Prune subset?

V2-OMG!
20th Jun 2009, 04:44
Life is an involuntary legacy.

I can see that on a bumper sticker.

CityofFlight
20th Jun 2009, 04:51
Does anyone really need to delete the account if they want to leave Pprune?

Don't know if you're referring to yourself, but why start a thread? Why not ask the Mods directly?

arcniz
20th Jun 2009, 04:53
My all-time favorite bumper sticker (seen on a road leading toward Berkely, Calif.)

"Subvert the Dominant Paradigm''

V2-OMG!
20th Jun 2009, 04:56
Don't know if you're referring to yourself, but why start a thread? Why not ask the Mods directly?

Why bother the mods unnecessarily? Someone here might already know.

I just figured out how to delete a thread, but am now wondering about an entire account - all personal replies to other threads and profile.

Does anyone really need to delete the account if they want to leave PPRuNe?

Need to? I don't know. I can't see how anything I've submitted or been privy to could come back to "haunt." I am just wondering about the option --you know -- America, the freedom of choice? Some websites can delete an entire account; others only partially.

toolowtoofast
20th Jun 2009, 05:39
search your own user name, go into 'view all user posts' find any you don't want, and delete them. can't do it if they are locked threads though.

vapilot2004
20th Jun 2009, 06:09
Try this: Become more and more abusive to your fellow members. Be as acerbic as possible. Post pornographic pictures in an ad hoc manner from Jet Blast to Terms of Endearment.

Taunt the mods. Post 11 Sept conspiracy theories, chemtrail threads and pointless political hot-button issues with an increasing frequency until you have reached a fever pitch of 1-2 per hour.

It won't be long until the end is near.

BlueDiamond
20th Jun 2009, 06:41
I think you can delete a thread ... but only one that you have started ... by deleting the first post (which is, of course, your own).

Otherwise admin or a mod might have to intervene if you wanted an entire account deleted ... don't really know how or if that would work, I don't think anyone has ever wanted to do that before. People usually just stop posting and go away.

Rollingthunder
20th Jun 2009, 06:50
Last thing I remember, I was
Running for the door
I had to find the passage back
To the place I was before
Relax said the night man,
We are programmed to receive.
You can checkout any time you like,
But you can never leave!



Hotel California - The Eagles

Jofm5
20th Jun 2009, 06:53
not sure why you would want an account deleted - most pepople are friendly on here (dont go into rotorheads - the one post I dared resulted in me looking like a C# and that was just them being friendly I guess

Whirlygig
20th Jun 2009, 07:48
Only the mods can delete a whole account which will result in all trace of that ppruner being removed. Of course, that will leave them free to start a new name and new identity with the misguided belief that no-one will spot the name. :} However, you can just start a new identity with a different email address.

Most people just don't post anymore when they want to leave and a few post a heartfelt swansong saying that they are leaving and goodbye to all their friends etc but other people have made it impossible for them to remain yada yada yada. These people are merely posting a cry for help or are attention seeking and they always come back. Some do it on an almost annual basis. :rolleyes:

Cheers

Whirls


...and Jofm5, your rotorheads thread was merged with all the other threads that have asked the same question over the years - that's all. Nothin c*** like in that at all - except your reaction to being merged. If you think that's bad, try Military Aircrew. :}

racedo
20th Jun 2009, 09:41
Post some top secret stuff on here that the Governemnt is trying desperately to hide like

Like George Bush is an idiot, Obama is from Planey Zeuses, Ronald Reagan was a Biped Dinosaur, Tony Blair is a vampire.

Give it a couple of days and men in polyester suits driving crap cars will ensure you and all you posts will disappear forever.

SyllogismCheck
20th Jun 2009, 10:04
Perhaps an 'Eliminate this user!' button would be good. Clock up more than, say, twenty five presses of the button from other individuals and your account vanishes without trace.

Having irritated twenty five people that significantly, most would likely fancy the record erased anyway, and there it would be, done.
Two birds, one stone. :ok:

Wholigan
20th Jun 2009, 11:15
Oh for gawd's sake just bloody leave! If you don't ever come in then it doesn't matter whether you have a sodding account or not!

Why do people have to say "oh dear me and woe is me I've been treated so badly by XXXXXXX and YYYYYY that I can no longer live with myself if I stay as a member and so I am leaving, crying and distraught and PLEASE PLEASE don't try to persuade me not to go because my mind is made up".

Trust me - - - it really doesn't matter who the hell you are, if you leave then almost nobody will notice because there are thousands and thousands of other people posting every day!

Have a nice life outside PPRuNe.

Michael Birbeck
20th Jun 2009, 11:22
@<hidden>

Entirely accurate but a bit harsh don't you think? :)

Fantome
20th Jun 2009, 11:22
Gees mate what biting you? She's only just airing a thought about a process, not taking a lie down on the shrink's couch.

cleo
20th Jun 2009, 11:57
RT beat me to it! Its a bit like that coming in here.

However assuming twas a serious question: apply a modicum of self discipline and don't type 'www.pprune.org' into your browser would do it I think.

racedo
20th Jun 2009, 12:49
Don't leave, We will never forget old what's his name, you know whatever your name is again or something like that.

hellsbrink
20th Jun 2009, 12:54
Come off it, do y'all REALLY think that V2 is going to try and leave?

Anyway, this place is like the Hotel California. You can NEVER leave

Will Fraser
20th Jun 2009, 13:09
Two I know banned themselves for a time, bh and af. One is back, the other?

Contact a mod, send a confirming 'get me outta here e-mail' done.

done ditty undone.

Will

Will Fraser
20th Jun 2009, 13:09
Two I know banned themselves for a time, bh and af. One is back, the other?

Contact a mod, send a confirming 'get me outta here e-mail' done.

done ditty undone.

Will

Davaar
20th Jun 2009, 13:16
You are too late. The length and breadth of Google you are likely to find yourself quoted from PPRuNe, I suppose for ever.

More than once and more than twice I have consulted Google to check on some arcana, only to find it cite unimpeachable authority, namely Davaar from PPRuNe.

I am not the only such PPRuNesque authority I have found there. How Google picks these things up, I do not know. Its predestination reminds me of the verse hammered into the child Davaar:
We are building day by day
As the moments pass away
A Temple that this World cannot see;
Every vict'ry won by Grace
Will be sure to find a place
In the Temple of Eternity

I can tell you, though, that at least one of Davaar's references to Old French is a wee bit off. I know because I later searched diligently for "Extraits des Chroniqueurs Francais", found it (seventy or so year old edition), bought it, and confirmed that my previous memory had been a tad inaccurate. I blame the French. The Old French, actually. Why did they have to write things differently from what I recalled?

Of course, maybe not everyone is rushing daily to look up the medieval French Chroniclers. Pity. They had some good stuff.

Scrubbed
20th Jun 2009, 13:24
The best way to leave is in the manner known as a Departure. Here's how it works...

You post a thread in which at first you you lament the changes which have seen your interest here wane. It could be a perceived increase in hostililty or antagonistic posting. It could be an intolerance for the Lowebrau whom you see as infesting the joint in "recent times". It could be you've had a gutful of the johnny-cum-latelies who've had the audacity not to do their time before voicing a preponderance of opinion.

The next step is important. You must ensure the rest of us know you're leaving. The non-flying peanut gallery herein are all too self-absorbed to notice if you merely wander off. Announce your departure in your thread. This allows the rest to beg and moan and implore in the hope you might change your mind..... all to no avail.

Weeks go by. Maybe even a month but probably not. You log in but rather than post, you just allow yourself to be seen here and there. At the first mention of a "sighting" you disappear in a rush like a timid, flighty bird which has been spooked.

After a suitable period of begging, you can allow yourself a brief comment on some topic which needs the helping hand only you can provide. Only to help us out, you see...

One post leads to another and before you know it, there you it is - The Departure. Some, through repetition, have it down to an artform. Let's see how good you are!

Michael Birbeck
20th Jun 2009, 13:39
The lament of the leaving PPRuNer....

All my bags are packed
Im ready to go
Im standin here outside your door
I hate to wake you up to say goodbye
But the dawn is breakin
Its early morn
The taxis waitin
Hes blowin his horn
Already Im so lonesome
I could die

And no dissing John Denver now.

hellsbrink
20th Jun 2009, 13:46
But that doesn't answer the core point about V2's post, regarding the deletion of all your previous posts/threads. After all, there are posts on the board, not including those classed as "persona non grata", where the info bit below the name is "n/a" (meaning the person is not a member any more for whatever reason) but obviously all previous posts are there.

Rollingthunder
20th Jun 2009, 13:49
Does anyone care?

You want to go, go, and don't let the door slam you on the backside on the way out.

hellsbrink
20th Jun 2009, 13:50
Obviously V2 does

Michael Birbeck
20th Jun 2009, 13:59
You want to go, go, and don't let the door slam you on the backside on the way out.


Yes, that is is exactly what I said to my ex wife as she left and now she owns the dooor, the hinges and the walls that support them. :(

Poor V2, she simply asks a procedural question and finds that she has "exited".

Methinks runours of her departure have been exaggerated.

CR2
20th Jun 2009, 14:02
Send a mail/PM to an Admin. Flappy/Danny/PPRuNe Towers for example and they can sort you out.

But as Wholi said.... the easiest way is just not to log in again. :suspect:

Matari
20th Jun 2009, 14:06
wo I know banned themselves for a time, bh and af. One is back, the other?Will, would af have been airfoilmod?

I think he's back...just sayin' http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/wink2.gif

Davaar
20th Jun 2009, 14:08
Does anyone care?


Some do. Where are the Tartan Gannet, Emerald, Velvet, the Dyslexic Poet, Unwell Raptor, miss singaporegirl? Did they jump or were they pushed? Who can tell? Some of the Departed I miss, some not.

Gone, all are gone, the old familiar faces.

frostbite
20th Jun 2009, 15:07
If One Wants to Leave PPRuNe......


You make it sound like a contractual obligation.

vonbag
20th Jun 2009, 15:29
It would be interesting, however, to know the reason(s) of such a decision...
Swiss cheese holes alignment?
Some can find themselves prisoners in an imaginary prison.
Like a Danish friend of mine used to say:
"with something as simple as a click, all can be over". ;-)
(I admit it can have numerous applications).

If the reason were to be somebody following and implicitly bothering you, one should just use the ignore lists, it's a useful function (... then again, "curiosity killed the cat", etc.).

V2-OMG!
20th Jun 2009, 17:16
Lyrics - Fifty Ways to Leave Your PPRuNers

The problem is all inside your head, they said to me
The answer is easy if you take it logically
I'd like to help you in your struggle to be free
There must be fifty ways to leave your PPRuNers
Fifty ways to leave your PPRuNers

{Refrain}
Just fly back, Jack,
Make a new flight plan, Stan
Hop on the Airbus, Gus,
Don't need to discuss much
Just pick up the C-172 key, Lee,
And get yourself free

There must be fifty ways to leave your PPRuNers
Fifty ways to leave your PPRuNers. :E

goudie
20th Jun 2009, 17:35
It'll just be the 'hand in the bucket of water'.
Whilst the hand is in the water it can splash about, making noise and commotion. Take it out and you would never have known it had been there.

G-CPTN
20th Jun 2009, 17:53
You are too late. The length and breadth of Google you are likely to find yourself quoted from PPRuNe, I suppose for ever.
V2-OMG - Google Search (http://www.google.com/search?q=V2-OMG)!

V2-OMG!
20th Jun 2009, 18:14
Gee, there's a lot of crap in google under my user name. Amazing!

Cacophonix
20th Jun 2009, 18:38
The web is a digital palimpsest, you'd better believe it.

Whirlygig
20th Jun 2009, 18:38
Amazing!
Indeed - I wonder who wrote it ?? :} :E :p

Cheers

Whirls

V2-OMG!
20th Jun 2009, 18:46
Indeed - I wonder who wrote it ??

Not I!

I thought my handle would be original -- not another one like it on the net. Obviously, I was wrong. Looks like there are a few copycats.

Whirlygig
20th Jun 2009, 18:49
Maybe, or maybe you're the copycat; we'll never know :} Could be your evil twin or a doppelganger from a parallel universe :E

Cheers

Whirls

Dushan
20th Jun 2009, 19:03
Wake up to discover that people want to leave? Are you crazy Ms. V2?? Get back to the computer and start typing some of the funny stuff you are capable of. And I don't ever want to hear any more talk of desertion. There is precious few of us right wing nuts to allow you to go.

V2-OMG!
20th Jun 2009, 19:11
Whirls, don't kid yourself. I used to participate in a vintage aviation site under "V1-2B" and someone was copying every thread/post I made and posting it on another site!

I've limited my posting to prune now. Don't have the time or interest to participate elsewhere.

Whirlygig
20th Jun 2009, 19:19
Whirls, don't kid yourself.You what? :confused: What illusion, exactly, do you think I'm under? I really don't mind whether you are you on other sites or you have a bevy of impersonators.

Cheers

Whirls

visibility3miles
20th Jun 2009, 19:28
Out on the road today, I saw a DEADHEAD sticker on a Cadillac
A little voice Inside my head said, "Don't look back. You can never look back."
I thought I knew what love was
What did I know?
Those days are gone forever
I should just let them go...

Boys of Summer
Don Henley
Nobody on the road
Nobody on the beach
I feel it in the air
The summer's out of reach...

V2-OMG!
20th Jun 2009, 19:39
Whirls, I know you are just kidding around, and I did laugh at your comments. But I was kinda peeved when someone copied me like that.
Such is the place known as cyber. We can only be responsible for ourselves. Beyond that, who knows?

Dushan, point taken! Now write something controversial again....and I'll be standing beside you....on your right. :}

Fantome
20th Jun 2009, 20:28
We can only be responsible for ourselves. Beyond that, who knows?

"There be a rich vein of sardonic humour at times. There also be odd lapses into prosaic pontificating" said your leftie (ardent) admirer.

parabellum
21st Jun 2009, 01:44
Think I read somewhere that if you don't log in for, say, a couple of years, your log in ability is cancelled, not sure about the entire account though.

CityofFlight
21st Jun 2009, 01:52
I'm still missing the point to this thread....what is it, again? :confused:

kiwi chick
21st Jun 2009, 02:03
I think it might be that if you want the answer to a question, you google your user name and the question, then sit back and enlighten yourself with the intelligent replies.


Am I far off? :confused:

I didn't sign in for a few years 'cause I didn't have access but my account was still here.

Whirls, you're great! :ok:

CR2
21st Jun 2009, 02:08
Someone wants to quit Proon. And wants to take his/her posts with 'em. Interesting point that. By writing on here, does this post belong to me or to Proon? I think we should have a philosophical discussion about it. Or perhaps Flying Lawyer will just tell us how it is.

CityofFlight
21st Jun 2009, 02:27
Interesting, CR2, I think several read into it differently. Perhaps V2 can explain...?

But, regarding your point, if you post on a website, I would think it belongs to the website, unless user deletes their threads.

Fortune Cookie says.... Be careful what you post. :hmm:

CR2
21st Jun 2009, 03:14
Pretty much how I see it too COF. I'm not too sure that deleting a post really deletes it either, probably becomes invisible. I couldn't say one way or another, just my guesstimate.

V2-OMG!
21st Jun 2009, 04:35
I think several read into it differently. Perhaps V2 can explain...?

I think I'd rather leave. :oh: :confused: :ooh: :} :E

Wholigan
21st Jun 2009, 06:58
My thoughts would be different. I imagine that if I "publish" something on a web site under my user name then I should automatically have intellectual copyright for what I have written. Unless of course I am one of the "copiers and pasters" from elsewhere in PPRuNe or I have plagiarised the stuff from somewhere else.

Flying Lawyer will know for sure.

Pinky the pilot
21st Jun 2009, 07:04
Leave Pprune?????:eek:

What??? And miss out on some of the erudition and wit one often finds that graces these pages?:confused:

I'd rather eat a brussels sprout!:ugh::yuk:

hellsbrink
21st Jun 2009, 07:07
My thoughts would be different. I imagine that if I "publish" something on a web site under my user name then I should automatically have intellectual copyright for what I have written. Unless of course I am one of the "copiers and pasters" from elsewhere in PPRuNe or I have plagiarised the stuff from somewhere else.

That is what I thought too, UNLESS the T&C's you sign up to state that you reliquish copyright when you post anything on the board

Rollingthunder
21st Jun 2009, 07:20
Lawyers tend to be very specialized and I wouldn't dream of asking Flying Lawyer to crack open the books on copyright law.

I post what I think (as someone else has said) and damn the torpedoes.

Whirlygig
21st Jun 2009, 07:45
Unless of course I am one of the "copiers and pasters" from elsewhere in PPRuNe
But what if someone copiy/pastes your writings on Pprune on another website and passes it off as his or her own work? Would you have any legal redress for plagiariam; wouldn't have thought so. :O

I suspect that online ramblings, rants, aphorisms, musings and even valedictions are the property of the website. If I publish a book and have it distributed round the country and later decide I don't want people to read it, do I have a right to ask back all the sold copies?

A deleted post may well exist somewhere; someone could have downloaded the thread, it could exist in the cache folders of many people's PCs, the archive pages of Google and I suspect Pprune boffins can restore them. Actually, I know they can but there may well be a time scale.

Anyway V2, your question has been answered; are you going or staying? Anything else we can help you with?

Cheers

Whirls

tony draper
21st Jun 2009, 08:37
I think you are correct Madam Whirls, we had a similar thread many moons ago about who owns what posted on Prune, and I think the conclusion arrived at was once one has hit the submit button it belonged to Uncle Danny.
:)

G-CPTN
21st Jun 2009, 09:32
Perhaps it might be easier (in copyright terms) to consider photographic images.
If someone 'publishes' an image (more difficult to 'forge' than text which can be copied visually and input manually rather than copied and pasted) what restrictions apply (legally) to someone who chooses to 'steal' that image and present it as their own work - maybe even for reward?
I think that most people would agree that the author should be protected?

WRT this thread, what is the background reason for the original question? Does the thread initiator regret the contributions that they have submitted (as, indeed, happens daily with those who p*st when p*ssed)?
Each snippet can be deleted by the member who published it (though this could be time-consuming).
Merely destroying membership wouldn't remove contibutions (unless the mods and administrators decided to impliment this, if, for example, the relevant person was guilty of greater misdemeanours).
Perhaps it was a ruse to enhance the awareness of the thread starter? I believe their original thread was pretty 'invasive' - asking other members to explain the origins of their user names, and each was responded to 'personally' - hardly the actions of a shrinking violet who might otherwise have lurked rather than initiate a 'conversational' thread. So we have an extrovert (at least as far as their internet identity is concerned (which, of course, can be vastly different to the real-world personality).
Has this open-ness attracted unwanted attention? I can think of some members who found hemselves being 'stalked' (and not just on PPRuNe) which presented them with problems in real life).

So, in summary, the easiest solution is just to leave. Over time most will be forgotten (though some are recalled wistfully by others). By all means trawl through and delete any p*sts that you wish - though don't imagine that all traces can be eradicated - the internet isn't like that any more than you can simply delete files from your hard drive.

Lon More
21st Jun 2009, 09:54
But I was kinda peeved when someone copied me like that.
Such is the place known as cyber. We can only be responsible for ourselves. Beyond that, who knows?

A couple of regular posters here suffered badly when a malicious feckwit decided to anonymously make public a number of comments made in jest. Sometimes worth waiting a couple of minutes before sending to ensure if you really want to make your thoughts public

ShyTorque
21st Jun 2009, 09:55
Don't think V2's quite ready to go yet.

"Here's your ninepence!"

YouTube - Monty Python-Bring out your dead! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grbSQ6O6kbs)

Bushfiva
21st Jun 2009, 09:55
The poster retains copyright, the site gets a nonexclusive global license to use the content however it wants. It's in the T&C.

G-CPTN
21st Jun 2009, 10:25
So what if the owners of a particular site wanted to transfer all content to another site?
I'm talking about a bulletin board similar in concept to PPRuNe (though specifically no connection AFAIK). The owners of said site wish to amalgamate the content with another (very) remotely connected. My concern is that (my) contributions will be exposed to a much larger membership that might have different maxims and interests.
Do members of a specific group have the 'right' to prevent distribution of texts and photographs to other sites?
I realise that enforcing any 'rights' might be difficult - if not impossible - but where does the moral responsibility lie?

I also realise that site owners can, without warning, close down (and delete) the content of any such board, but can they take this and set up afresh?

Bushfiva
21st Jun 2009, 10:36
My concern is that (my) contributions will be exposed to a much larger membership that might have different maxims and interests

The site's indexed by Google very frequently. As are the other forums you post on. I think you've already lost control of who reads your stuff.

llondel
21st Jun 2009, 10:49
If you don't want it public then don't post it (or email it, or IM it). There are plenty of things I wouldn't post to the internet, or commit to an email. Plenty of examples of where cut-and-paste or forward has been used to the embarrassment of the original poster. Some employers (or prospective employers) do check your internet footprint (try your own name or common login in Google occasionally) so if they see you're out partying and getting wasted every night your chances might be less favourable. So yes, it might still be your copyright but once it's hit the net, especially if it gets indexed by search engines, you'll never really get it back if you want to retract it.

lomapaseo
21st Jun 2009, 13:59
If the concern is about one's reputation, then you can just start posting under your real name with carefully crafted posts of superior intelligence and caring, while denying that your pseudo forum name was really you?