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SRENNAPS
13th Jun 2009, 18:51
A big thank you to all involved in the Trooping of the Colour Flypast today. I for one know how much hard work goes in from everybody. Well done to the aircrew, ground crew and all support staff that helped to make this happen. :D:D:D:D:D

Icare9
13th Jun 2009, 20:32
Saw the jets flypast (we're about 2 miles from B House) but BBMF must have broken hard as not visible, first element here was the Typhoon formation (very neat). Gulfstream looked to have problems with turbulence, and Reds immaculate as ever. Well done all, but BBMF come and say "Hello" please!!!!

Saw a report earlier that the Hurricane seemed to be lowering and raising undercarriafe while landing at Southampton. As was in the flypast, presume all well?

Mad (Flt) Scientist
13th Jun 2009, 20:38
Gulfstream looked to have problems with turbulence,
:confused:

What Gulfstream do the UK forces have?

spindrier
13th Jun 2009, 21:01
As usual the real workers (rotary) are excluded.

orionsbelt
13th Jun 2009, 21:31
Saw it all from Boreham (thanks to the Bill ) The 4 Tornadoes were well tight.
Well done

Sentinel R1 First time seen, Nice Machine and about time to.
data is all public domain so pls dont start shouting at me!

Sentinel R1

RAF - Sentinel R1/ASTOR (http://www.raf.mod.uk/equipment/sentinelr1.cfm)

RolesProvides a long-range, battlefield-intelligence, target-imaging and tracking radar for the RAF and the Army and will have surveillance applications in peacetime, wartime and in crisis operations.
SpecificationsEngines: Two Rolls-Royce Deutschland BR710 turbofansThrust: 14,750lbs eachMax speed: 0.75MachLength: 30.3mMax altitude: 40,000ftSpan: 28.49mAircrew: 5Save to 'Compare aircraft'
Who uses the Sentinel R15 (Army Co-Operation) SquadronRAF WaddingtonDetailsASTOR (Airborne Stand-Off Radar) will provide a long-range, battlefield-intelligence, target-imaging and tracking radar for the RAF and the Army and will have surveillance applications in peacetime, wartime and in crisis operations. The prime contractor selected to provide the ASTOR system is Raytheon Systems Limited, using the Bombardier Global Express aircraft as the air platform. The system comprises three basic components, or segments. The first segment is the air platform, a modified twin-engined Global Express business jet, called the Sentinel R1 by the RAF, equipped with a radar system capable of both Synthetic Aperture Radar (SAR) and Moving Target Indicator (MTI) functions. The SAR will enable all-weather, day and night reconnaissance and surveillance to be carried out; the MTI will enable the operators to monitor the activity of mobile ground targets.
The second segment comprises two transportable Ground Stations (GS) to support deployed HQ and six mobile GS to support Division and Brigade. Each GS can receive, store and exploit radar information down-linked from the air-platform and present it, via existing communications networks, in a variety of formats to commanders, tacticians and weapons operators on the battlefield. Finally, the support segment provides important mission-support functionality, such as mission planning and mission data replay, at the main operating base (RAF Waddington) and for deployed operations. A two pilot flight-deck crew will operate the aircraft, with a mission crew nominally comprising a mission controller and two image analysts. The aircraft, currently in production as an ultra-long range business jet, will be modified to include a radome under the forward fuselage to house the radar and datalink antennae, and a radome on the upper fuselage to house the SATCOM antenna. The aircraft will operate at altitudes in excess of 40,000ft with a mission endurance over 9 hours.
The engines used by the ASTOR aircraft are the Rolls-Royce Deutschland (RRD) BR710 engines, which are very similar to those used on the Nimrod MRA4 maritime patrol aircraft. Defensive aids will include a radar-warning receiver, a missile warning system, a towed radar decoy and chaff and flare dispensers. The radar is an upgraded version of the Raytheon ASARS-2 radar used on the U-2 aircraft and will be capable of providing high resolution images of the battlefield at ranges of several hundred kilometres. The SAR mode will provide high quality radar images of the area surveyed, while the MTI mode will detect moving vehicles operating in the area. The SAR can be operated in spot mode to produce high-resolution imagery over relatively small areas of fixed location. The SAR swath mode can collect lower-resolution imagery broadside to the aircraft as it proceeds but at a much greater width than SAR spot. Multiple passes using SAR swath mode can effectively provide wide area surveillance of fixed and static targets. These images can be exploited by the airborne mission crew, or down-linked from the aircraft in near real time to the ASTOR GS, to generate intelligence reports for commanders.
Delivered in a £954 million deal with Raytheon Systems Ltd, the contract also includes eight mobile ground stations. Raytheon will continue to deliver support services to the system over the next 10 years and it is anticipated it will achieve Full Operating Capability in about two years time, the fully operational ASTOR system comprises five Sentinel R1s flown by two aircrew and at least three radar operators.
It was declared in-service with the Royal Air Force in December 2008 and is operated by No 5(AC) Squadron, based at RAF Waddington, where they will form one arm of the surveillance triad of Sentinel R1, E-3D Sentry and Nimrod R1.

MReyn24050
13th Jun 2009, 21:40
and Reds immaculate as ever.
Just seen the review on BBC2. Her Majesty certainly seemed to appreciate the Reds when they flew over.

Mad (Flt) Scientist
13th Jun 2009, 21:53
Sentinel R1 First time seen, Nice Machine and about time to.
data is all public domain so pls dont start shouting at me!

RAF - Sentinel R1/ASTOR (http://www.raf.mod.uk/equipment/sentinelr1.cfm)


"data is potentially dodgy" might also be a valid comment. It's not even internally consistent. (Max altitude is stated as 40,000ft, yet the text talks of operating "at altitudes in excess of 40,000ft". Which do you believe?)

orionsbelt
13th Jun 2009, 22:08
Back in 62 my old Drill Sgt (Gunga Din ) 46th D flight once said to us all.
In the RAF 'Dont believe anything you hear and only believe half of what you see'.

Think that still stands to day. Its your own web site :ugh:

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kharmael
13th Jun 2009, 22:22
The GlobalExpress Jet it is based on does in excess of 500 but whether the canoe-carrying version goes that high is another story ;)

safetypee
13th Jun 2009, 22:30
“…looked to have problems with turbulence …”
Not surprising with the additional side area forward of the c.g. – some relaxation of the directional stability perhaps?

BlackadderIA
14th Jun 2009, 10:54
“…looked to have problems with turbulence …”
Not surprising with the additional side area forward of the c.g. – some relaxation of the directional stability perhaps?

The R.1 mods are aerodynamically neutral - added ventral fins combined with vast amounts of extra electronic jiggery pokery aft of the cofg mean it handles exactly the same as the Global Express.

On the way home on Saturday the R.1 managed to confuse many spotters at Newark's cockpitfest with a suspiciously well timed orbit of the museum during the Dakota's display! (well separated by height before the flight safety stazi on here start)

Big thanks to the crew for that one. Seeing commited spotters having to resort to flicking through Janes - priceless.

VictorPilot
14th Jun 2009, 14:39
Does anyone have the total route for the flypast with orbits and pick ups etc for the day and the Thursday rehearsal? They flew over me in Bungay Suffolk heading W/NW!!??

orionsbelt
14th Jun 2009, 14:49
Go to the AIS website there is an AIC 30/2009
NATS | AIS - Home (http://www.nats-uk.ead-it.com/public/index.php%3Foption=com_content&task=blogcategory&id=162&Itemid=59.html)

Malaysian28
14th Jun 2009, 17:25
I saw them from my house 3 miles east of RAF Northolt, 9 Miles North of Heathrow, I was watching them on BBC and Listening via the Scanner (132.700 & 125.625 Thames Radar)

Managed to get a few pics.
Heres the Links if you want to see.

MyAviation.net - Aviation Photo Gallery (http://myaviation.net/search/photo_search.php?id=01616909)
MyAviation.net - Aviation Photo Gallery (http://myaviation.net/search/photo_search.php?id=01616908)
MyAviation.net - Aviation Photo Gallery (http://myaviation.net/search/photo_search.php?id=01616906)
MyAviation.net - Aviation Photo Gallery (http://myaviation.net/search/photo_search.php?id=01616373)

Legalapproach
14th Jun 2009, 19:57
VP

Saw a VC 10 and heard something loud and pointy but the better sight and sound over Bungay yesterday was MH's P51 presume en route back to Hardwick:ok:

Shack37
14th Jun 2009, 20:16
Orionsbelt said


Back in 62 my old Drill Sgt (Gunga Din ) 46th D flight once said to us all.



Was that St. Athan?

Apologies for the drift.

Agreed, HM seemed to become quite animated when the Reds flew past.

s37

Beatriz Fontana
14th Jun 2009, 20:42
Great flypast, but both me and the rather more qualified OH (dark blue) were frankly astounded at the shoddy wavy-lined ranks!! At least the RN's honest about their incapability in marching about, but frankly "straight lines" seemed outside of the army's vocabulary on Saturday... Shoddy.

orionsbelt
14th Jun 2009, 20:57
Shack 37

No Sorry Cosford, No 4 Sqdn D Flight Air Radar Mechs


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Shack37
15th Jun 2009, 17:06
but frankly "straight lines" seemed outside of the army's vocabulary on Saturday... Shoddy.

A little harsh Bea. Surely the line can be wavy as long as it doesn't break.

The RM will march past, the RN will do the best they can.:ok:


PS Thanks Orion, ex 40th D Flt St. A.

Malaysian28
15th Jun 2009, 17:53
One quick question, does anyone know the regs of the aircraft involved in the flypast, I managed to find out the regs of the Eurofighters, the Tornados and Reds, But everything else like the Nimrod, Sentinel and the VC10 baffle me.

Any Help?

lonsdale2
15th Jun 2009, 21:15
The Nimrod MR2 was XV229, the Sentinel R1 was ZJ694, sorry can't help with the VC10.

Malaysian28
16th Jun 2009, 08:49
Thanks Lonsdale2 Much Appricated.

TEEEJ
16th Jun 2009, 18:27
VC-10 was XR808

Queens flypast serials? (http://forums.airshows.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=11443)

TJ

Malaysian28
17th Jun 2009, 06:17
Thanks TEEEJ for the reg of the VC-10.

Malaysian28.