All right then, a fair few of you must have iPhones by now, so which applications have you found that are really helpful to aircrew?

The Met office radar rainfall website with animation is great for getting a good picture of the weather and how its moving.

Also ipint is great for amusing pilots in the bar!!!

ZA

PilotWizz. Essential. Other than that, my wireless network cracker is pretty cool but I doubt apple will let me distribute it and I'm not sending the source out :)

AeroWeather is the one I use a lot. It shows your selected METARS and TAFS fully decoded and readable - much quicker than logging on to the Met Office site, having to do a lot of finger work. It also shows whether the METAR is VFR, MVFR, IFR or whatever.

Be warned though - sync your iphone at the wrong time and you can loose all your apps. You can download them again if you remember the names (or look up your purchase history) but any data stored is lost forever. Sometimes you even have to pay again, other times the apps are no longer available.

I have PilotWhizz which would come in handy if I was not able to use my PC to plan my flights.

SullysFlight is a good one for keeping current on bird strike / engine failure procedures.

Also - Flight Control is pretty addictive. From playing that, I can't see what all the fuss is about re: ATC and stress :rolleyes:

:ok:

Another thread running here

http://www.pprune.org/military-aircrew/369606-iphone-aviation-applications.html

Is it still just on one network, I think O2?

Are there plans to open to other network providers?

You can already have an iPhone on other networks if you so really want to....

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Shunter, you need to check your emails. ;)

Played with friends iphone yesterday with the artificial horizon app.. Vibration overwhelmed the sensors in the iphone - his comment of "this may save my ass" was quickly retracted! Basically a 60 degree turn was unregistered....

The iPod Touch can run all the applications and connects through wifi, which can be picked up at quite a few airfields. I use:

AeroWeather - excellent as already mentioned
Pilot Wizz - good for weight & balance etc. only need a connection for weather.
GeeMeter - measured + and -ve G, just out of curiosity.

Without the phone connection, I also use WiFinder to find the free open networks.

All the above are free apps.

Are all these applications only available from apple? I am looking at getting the HTC Touch phone with microsoft 6.1 but would perhaps be interested in some of these apps. Or are there others out there for non ieverything users?

Shunter, how do you get 5 icons along the bottom line? :confused:

Please can some one explain to me what an iPhone is? While they are at it what is an iPod?

Thks Planemike...........

Planemike, im not sure whether you are being serious or not but having seen that you are 44 years older than me I can understand you not knowing about the i-everything revolution.

Originally it started out with the ipod. This is a portable music device in which you can copy music to in the form of mp3 (eg copy a cd onto the computer... or "record" ;))

Then they sold loads of these things, took over the market, kept bringing out new models and one day decided to put a phone in one. Its one of the new generation "smart phones" in which you can connect to the internet, send emails and get all of these applications as well as games and music etc.

It is extremly over priced and actually one of the worst "smart phones" around, however, they are very well known compared to the other brands, hence why just about everyone has one.

The iPod is what you get when the Obamas come and visit you... except that in this case it was a WePod!


ZA

Hi Pilot Pieces..........

I am absolutely serious. You are right my age may have something to do with it !!!

I have little interest in much of this technology which just seems to be technology for its own sake. My other problem is that much of it is anything but user friendly and it is just too much trouble to bother learning how to use it.

I love things that just have an ON - OFF switch..........simple!!!

Planemike

Like a Cessna 152 then?

Are all these applications only available from apple? I am looking at getting the HTC Touch phone with microsoft 6.1 but would perhaps be interested in some of these apps. Or are there others out there for non ieverything users?

There are far more applications available for Microsoft Mobile 6.1 and WinCE than there is for iphone ;)

dp

But having started on Windows 3.1 and transited to 3.11, 95, xp and then Vista, I'm soooo glad I moved on to a Mac operating system (2 days and you never look back) than I d never go back to MS.

The Iphone means a lot of added creature comforts in a very user friendly package.

a MEP and MAC loving poster

Shunter, how do you get 5 icons along the bottom line?It requires a jailbroken phone. Jailbreaking (if you don't know what it is) essentially circumvents the Apple security which constrains you to running things that they approve of. There are many advantages, and absolutely zero disadvantages to doing it. It can be done with free software written by an outrageously talented bunch of embedded device engineers called the iPhone Dev Team. Once you're done with the over-the-top "you'll get what you're given, now stop moaning" protection, you're free to install non-approved 3rd-party applications. That one's called 5-icon-dock and does what it says on the tin. There are plenty of other useful ones which Apple decided not to allow on the app store; cut n paste, MMS, video recorder, backgrounder (to allow you to keep apps running - damn useful for many things). That said, the next version of iPhone software coming in a couple of months is pretty much a "kitchen sink" edition as far as features go; almost everything people have ever moaned about not being available is coming.... except backgrounding.

There are far more applications available for Microsoft Mobile 6.1 and WinCE than there is for iphoneAnd your reference is......

The iTunes app store has fundamentally changed how people acquire applications. There were about 20,000 of them last time I checked, for almost every possible use.

I've had 2 Windoze Mobile phones in the past. I will NEVER EVER EVER have one again. Windows Mobile is shite.

And your reference is......

The iTunes app store has fundamentally changed how people acquire applications. There were about 20,000 of them last time I checked, for almost every possible use.

Nothing but my own experience.

How many aviation moving map applications can you name for the iphone? There are plenty for windows devices.

There is a huge range of software available for windows mobile devices. Perhaps partly because it has been around for a lot longer.

Is there anything for a Nokia E51? I think it runs Symbian... hasn't arrived yet though.

I've had a number of Pocket/PC (windoze mobile) PDAs and there is a vast range of software around for these. On a decent PDA, it runs OK. The drawback is always the battery life... never more than a few hours.

As regards phones (I mean phones which actually fit into what I'd call a pocket :) ) running Pocket/PC, it doesn't seem to work well. I have a Thuraya SG-2520 satellite phone which runs this and it is absolute crap. Very very slow just to move through the menus. What is the CPU doing?? Working out all the prime numbers from 3 to the phone's IMEI? Got to be careful though, as Thuraya monitor forums for unfavourable comments and they email you - no kidding!

How many aviation moving map applicationsOh do me a favour. The only vaguely useful one for Windoze is Memory Map whose only redeeming feature is its proprietory map format for which CAA VFR charts are available. Whilst it's novel to see your paper chart on a PDA, almost every alternative is better (even those piddly little Garmins I have such disdain for).

For what it's worth, Memory Map will work on an iPhone if you're determined enough. It requires substantial knowledge of Arm architecture, the compiling of wine and qemu source, some dependency tinkering and relevant mapping of the GPS serial device. At the end of the day it's a Unix box and it'll do anything you want given the right knowledge, sufficient motivation and a large pinch of salt to accompany various EULAs.

Like a Cessna 152 then?

...do not confuse with the Cessna i52

I answered a simple question
Or are there others out there for non ieverything users?

There are plenty. And whatever your opinion of moving map aviation system there are certainly lots available for windows mobile systems and none for the iphone.

The question asker will have no problem finding software for windows.

Yes, thank you Dublinpilot. I originally looked into getting the iphone but after pages and pages of reviews I started looking into other phones and found some right gems.

I just ordered an HTC Touch HD, perhaps the most similar phone to the current iphone, but with a list of advantages over the iphone (camera, screen res etc etc) and for nearly a third of the price!

A lot of the success of the iphone has come from the huge advertising campaign. It got me to, I was ready to buy one until I browsed through some reviews and started finding other phones that were just better.

I dont hate the iphone...but telling me that it has a lightsaber application so you can wave your phone around in the pub and zap people, isnt a selling point for me.

There are many advantages, and absolutely zero disadvantages to doing it
Apart from the fact that Apple don't really want you to do it, and if they lock jailbroken phones in the future you've bricked your phone. It would seem like a likely thing Apple would want to do.

uuuuuhhhhhhh

Mac bashing now, eh?

An unlocked iphone will remain unlocked for as long as you do not upgrade to the next version of the OS

People with an unlocked phone know they will have to wait a little longer before they can upgrade to the next OS version, and only do so if the new gadgets have value to them.

Each to their own. A little respect for owners of both MS and Mac OS, and no untrue rumors please.....

I've got a Mac Book Air myself, as well as an iPhone and have written a few apps. I like Macs, they've done a good job of making a unix box not look like unix. I mostly run linux at home but have a couple of WinXP\Vista Vm's about the place too. I pretty much run everything that's available out there.

I just thought the "no downside" to jailbreaking your phone was bit untrue. There again, anybody who wants and knows how, to jailbreak their phone probably knows what they are getting into.

Played with friends iphone yesterday with the artificial horizon app.. Vibration overwhelmed the sensors in the iphone - his comment of "this may save my ass" was quickly retracted! Basically a 60 degree turn was unregistered....

I saw a few 'artificial horizon' apps in the app store. I'm sure some people think they will actually work. However, the iPhone doesn't have the sensors in it to implement an AI. It could do a G meter, it could do a balance ball and it could do a moving map GPS. But there's no way at all it could ever replicate an AI. Sure, you could make something that looks like an AI and appears to work on the ground but it would be of no use whatsoever in the air (and not because of the vibration).

M.

LogTen Student Edition

Foreflight Checklist - awesome!

I got a new phone, has an extremely useful feature that all phones should have.... you can make and receive calls from it..... NUFF SAID.

It could do a G meterLike this very nice free one:
GeeMeter (http://www.iwizwheel.com/Site/GeeMeter.html)

Edit to add that I've just noticed that the picture was captured with the iPhone flat - the G reading is zero. In the vertical mode, it reads +1.

Good thread on the iphone apps running here:
http://www.pprune.org/military-aircrew/369606-iphone-aviation-applications.html

Where would one start (assuming they have a mac) to learn how to write apps for the iPhone?http://static.pprune.org/images/smilies/confused.gif

InDarknessConcealed, here (http://developer.apple.com/).

if they lock jailbroken phones in the future you've bricked your phoneYou're confusing unlocking with jailbreaking. iPhones have 2 processors and 2 operating systems. 1 runs the front end stuff, the other runs the cellular comms. The 2 talk to each other.

Jailbreaking is the circumvention of the security which prevents unauthorised access to the front-end root filesystem. This is the system which runs all the visible applications, your music, etc... The exploit for the iPhone 3G jailbreak exists in HARDWARE. This means that Apple can NEVER block the jailbreak unless they modify the hardware of the phone. This may (or may not) happen when the new iPhone models are released in the summer. iPhone 3Gs will ALWAYS be jailbreakable. The front-end OS is Mac OS X compiled to run on an Arm processor.

The OS running the cellular comms is NucleusOS, a real-time system which runs on a separate processor to the front-end OS. The 2 operating systems talk to each other in order to make calls, send SMS etc. In order to unlock an iPhone using software alone, you need an exploitable buffer-overflow vulnerability in the Nucleus firmware, which can be executed interactively via an application running at the front-end. The guys who wrote the current 3G software unlock (aka yellowsn0w) managed to exploit vulnerabilities in several versions of Nucleus firmware, but only released software for v2.28 (released Nov 2008). The nature of the exploit is highly complex; instead of some schoolboy hexedit, they actually change the logic of the OS as it passes through RAM. Nucleus asks the sim card if it's from a valid network provider, and yellowsn0w forces the answer to be yes.

There is no way Jailbreaking or soft-unlocking an iPhone 3G can brick your phone. Loading up iTunes and selecting "Restore" will return your phone to factory settings, with all evidence of previous adventures completely erased.

The only defence Apple have against such exploits is the fact that the Nucleus firmware cannot(*) be downgraded. Every new release is digitally signed, and the phone will refuse to accept a new baseband firmware revision if it's been tampered with or has a lower version number. Of course, with a suitable exploit you can downgrade and circumvent the certificate check, but if you've got an exploit you wouldn't bother because you've already unlocked your phone. There are also (rare) iPhone 3Gs which have an exploitable bootloader (which isn't updated when new firmware is applied) which can be manipulated to downgrade baseband firmware.

I trust this post has been educational, but I'm getting rather bored of writing it now. The point still stands: there are many advantages and no disadvantages to jailbreaking your iPhone.

Well said Shunter!

I am a user and not a mobile hacker, but I've used an unlocked Iphone from the USA from almost day one (2G) on the Dutch Vodafone network.

I use the email with multiple email boxes for receiving and sending internationally, I just love the SMS (communications to and fro per contact), phone and many ipod as well as many downloadable apps.

In all this time I've never had a single problem, other than having to perhaps restart it once per month or two when I get the feeling it s slowing down a bit.

Shunter, with your good knowledge of iPhone, you might know the answer to this one: as far as I know, Apple intentionally tried to disable the possibility to make SIP calls over GPRS/EDGE. What exactly is blocked, and could one expect it to be circumvented in the near future? To me, this is the most important reason not to buy an iPhone, unless someone can prove me wrong.

BTW, speaking of moving map applications for Windows Mobile, there is PocketFMS (http://www.pocketfms.com/), which might in fact give Jeppesen a run for its money.

Good post Shunter :ok:

I still cannot believe people are having to use buffer overflow (probably stack overflow) exploits to SP-unlock an Iphone. Having to go to such a length is disgusting. I would not touch an SP-locked phone with a 20ft bargepole. As a phone, the Iphone does little or nothing that other fancy phones cannot do. As a fashion accessory, well that's different...

This means that Apple can NEVER block the jailbreak unless they modify the hardware of the phoneSimply not true. Perform an unrestricted write to the phone, if it succeeds it's jail breaked, if it doesn't, it's not. I've detected whether your phone is broke or not. I then block the firmware upgrade. You're not stuck with all apps pre-blocking firmware.

Making out it's completely safe and you are garaunteed not to brick your phone is simply not true. Never say never.

I trust this post has been educational, but I'm getting rather bored of writing it now. The point still stands: there are many advantages and no disadvantages to jailbreaking your iPhone.
Ill informed maybe, but educational no.

Where would one start (assuming they have a mac) to learn how to write apps for the iPhone?

Besides Apple's official resources, this would also be a good place to start:

iPhone - O'Reilly Media (http://oreilly.com/iphone/)

See the books by Jonathan Zdziarski (http://oreillynet.com/pub/au/1861)

PompeyPaul, I'm afraid you're incorrect - or confusing the 3G with the original iPhone. Since no permanent modifications are made to the phone it can always be restored using unmodified Apple firmware. This was not true on the original iPhone, for which unlock exploits actually modified the bootloader itself. iPhones have something called DFU mode, which essentially means that when you connect it to a computer it says to iTunes "Dude, I'm utterly hosed. Fix me". In such circumstances iTunes doesn't even bother checking what's on the phone, it blows it away and puts whatever firmware you choose onto the phone (you know you can alt-click on the restore button in iTunes and it will let you choose any firmware file you want, right? You don't have to use Apple's latest and greatest). If you've managed to really really really bugger your phone (which is spectacularly difficult) there's still a way out, but it involves some intricate disassembly and a suitable PIC programmer.

I was playing around with keyboard layouts the other day and for some unknown reason I got to a point where whenever I opened an app requiring the keyboard (Mail, Safari etc) the app would crash; a known bug. This was remedied by opening an SSH session with the phone and manually fixing the keyboard maps. If my phone wasn't jailbroken I would have had to restore it and spend all day getting everything back where I wanted it.

As far as SIP calls go, there's nothing in the iPhone which specifically prevents them. There is however plenty in the iTunes App Store policy which does; mainly under pressure from network providers. Jailbreaking allows you to run any app, whether Apple approve of it or not. Whether there exists an app to make such calls I don't know - not something I have a need for as work pay the bill for my iPhone :ok:

You *can* get officially unlocked iPhones, just not in the UK. In countries which have laws to combat monopolistic practices they are available in stores. In France you can get an unlocked iPhone from Orange, and in Hong Kong you can buy them in the Apple store. In the UK it's the operator's choice whether they offer such an option; o2 can unlock iPhones if they want to, they just choose otherwise.

When an operator unlocks an iPhone, the IMEI is placed in a database maintain by Apple. This database is checked by iTunes every time your iPhone is synced. At that point, if the IMEI is in the database, an RSA token is downloaded to an area known as the seczone. This is also where the IMEI is stored. If the key matches the IMEI (and some other stuff), the phone unlocks. Job done. This area of flash is outside that used by both the onboard operating systems so is not modified during subsequent firmware upgrades.

AeroWeather is invaluable; PilotWiz and FlightPlan may be usefull, but CoPilot makes a perfect companion to AeroWeather.
It performs most tasks that the excellent Nav Box can (my usual flight planner) and some others Nav Box can’t.
Programming is quick and easy (once mastered that is, initially it’s not altogether intuitive) with an internet connection not needed. Rearranging destinations, waypoints wind, height etc. takes seconds only as does feeding in pre entered alternates – or for that matter, new waypoints.
Routes may be stored (but alas, not downloaded to GPS – but then, some might argue that this should be separate as a cross check.................
The database is comprehensive – airfields, VOR, NDB and a user waypoint database.
Minus points: No map – so user waypoints must be entered manually and my only real gripe, no VRP’s
Weight and balance and E6B calculators are provided.
With an internet connection, a CDI/DME is available, subject to the iphone’s GPS not having one of its periodic electric sulks
The main benefit (well to me anyway) is the ability to plan anywhere, anytime (“I’m on the train”) and to be able to amend quickly, if needed before, or even, during flight.
The help files are reasonable, but I had a poor response to an email question.
All very subjective of course, but it will only cost the price of a few minutes flying to check.

Do all these applications also work for the i-touch? If so I might buy one when I'm in the States. The price of the i-phone with 'o2' puts me off, a 24 month contract will add up to about £800!

So what is the windows mobile alternative to aeroweather and copilot then?

new iphone apps which could be useful for pilots

Windspeed meter
goingApps (http://goingapps.com/default.aspx)

YouTube - iPhone Wind Meter - $0.99 Anemometer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44YYcp3aMhU)

I have little interest in much of this technology which just seems to be technology for its own sake. My other problem is that much of it is anything but user friendly and it is just too much trouble to bother learning how to use it.


I thought flying was about looking out the window & stuff.
What is the point of all this? what are "Apps"? why would you need to listen to millions of tunes/records or whatever they are called now? or play games whilst flying?
I have a mobile phone, I think it can take pictures as well, but I have a camera for that.
Must be an age thing, I really don't get it.
One day when the wizz kids come up with a hand held radar set that bleeps in my headset & gives me a readout on a chunk of aluminium whether or not the "target" has Mode A,C or S, then I'll buy one.

Good point, Crash One.

I have yet to find an iPhone app which is useful in the cockpit (apart from the GPS if I am really really lost). Aeroweather is useful for reading METARS and TAFS quickly and PilotWhizz for pre-flight planning if I can't use my computer.

Since Shagpile is doing a NAIPS app which will get widely used amongst the Australian iPhone users fraternity, I was wondering what relevant app's other iPhone users have and recommend.

I regularly use Pkt Weather as it has the BOM radars and you can set what locations you want, FlightPlan & iE6B.

So what have you got?

Not sure if your only asking about aviation apps but....

Been playing about today with V-Cockpit GPS (http://www.xewton.com/apps/vcockpit/gps/)

It not something to be used as instrumentation in a light aircraft, but it is fun to play with - I have yet to take it out in the car to compare the speed my iphone reckons compared to my speedo - I dont fly (yet) so cant compare altitude etc with real life.

On the non aviation side, I use the telegraph and sky apps for news (both free) and bloomburg for stocks. I have a few other apps installed which are uk specific (e.g. tv guide) and I use accelgolf for my score cards.

Yeah more along the lines of aviation apps, that V-Cockpit is more of a game isn't it? I can't see how it could be used in an aircraft due to the forces the accelerometer requires.

Very interesting though.

I've also got PilotWizPro which is pretty good as well.

Yeah more along the lines of aviation apps, that V-Cockpit is more of a game isn't it?


I am not so sure I would call it a game as there is no objective other than to show off the functionality of the iphone - I am not sure on accuracy as have nothing to compare to but it is most definately not meant for use in aviation as all the documentation says and quite correctly it asks you to confirm that you understand this before running it.

Will have a look at the one you suggested as would be interesting to get some useful things when I do eventually do my ppl. I looked at a couple of weather apps and the pilots toolbox but did not seem to greate/intuitive (at least for me).

Aero Weather....Shows METAR and TAF of most airports....

This is my first Iphone and I'm dead impressed :ok:

At then moment I've got the Airport app. which is quite good for Tafs, metars etc. , but there are so many I was wondering what hardened Iphone commercial pilot users would recommend.

I'm not a commercial pilot, but I'm using:

- SafelogWeb (SafelogWeb (http://www.safelogweb.com)) for my logbook
- AviationABB (Aviation Abbreviations, not sure why I got it to be honest)
- LiveATC (again, not sure why I got it)
- AirportMania (just to keep my entertained :})

Aerouk,

Here are some gems:

Aeroweather (http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewSoftware?id=288286079&mt=8)
Jet Fueling (http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewSoftware?id=289440313&mt=8)
If you are a Mac user, this is a great companion app to LogTen Pro (http://coradine.com/logten-pro/): LogTen Mobile (http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewSoftware?id=286222898&mt=8)
For the occasional conversion and calculation: Pilot Wizz (http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewSoftware?id=289250683&mt=8)

Applemacster.

So what is the best phone chaps, the N97 or the iPhone?????

So what is the best phone chaps, the N97 or the iPhone?????


can of worms there :)

I much prefer the Nseries devices. They can do everything and more the iphone can do imo.

As a developer I want my software on the largest platform so I publish everything on iPhone. As the maxim usually goes, software sells hardware so if you want the richest software collection go iPhone.

Having had the Nokia N97 I must says it's probably one of the worst phones I have ever used. The software is sluggish, unfriendly and plain old crap! They talk about it being competition to the iPhone, my ass!

If you're wanting a good phone, stick to the Blackberry/HTC/iPhone/Palm Pre, Nokia have lost it.

Not the Old my phone is better than your phone argument??????
Do your research and get a phone that does what you want it to. If you get one you are going to moan about it's because you didn't do enough research and you have no one else to blame.
Once you have it, stop knocking other phones that others have because they do what they want them to.
Peace Brothers....:ok:

Call100,

Not at all.

I currently work within the industry (sadly!) and get to play around with loads of phones every month. I was lucky enough to get my hands on an unlocked Nokia N97 to see what it was like but I was so disappointed with it!

Just went back to using my 3GS.

aerouk

I was lucky enough to get my hands on an unlocked Nokia N97

Was stuffed full of operators software? I've tested an Arabic version of the N97 and it's brilliant. Software is quick, youtube is good (depending on wifi speed) I'm about to purchase one for around £320 at todays rate of exchange

Call100,

Not at all.

I currently work within the industry (sadly!) and get to play around with loads of phones every month. I was lucky enough to get my hands on an unlocked Nokia N97 to see what it was like but I was so disappointed with it!

Just went back to using my 3GS.
Sorry, my post wasn't aimed at you. Just the argument in general. I've tried a few phones that are not that bad and can do some things my IPhone can't. After several trials I keep coming back to my IPhone. The only thing I would like it to do that it currently doesn't is Flash, Though there are rumours that Adobe are working on it...That said, Its a wish not a need....
I still hold by the argument that research should be done and whatever phone does it for you is the best phone for you. Once you have it, it seems pointless running down others.
But hey we seem to have gone off thread on this one......

Apps for IPhone
Aeroguide
AeroWeather
FlightCode
Airport Mania
Shozu
Evernote
ICarRadio
CalenGoo

I think that may have redeemed the thread!!:)

NAIPS
CoPilot
FlightPlan
PilotWizPro
MotionX GPS
Currency

All used frequently!

Though there are rumours that Adobe are working on it...That said, Its a wish not a need....



Was chatting to a friend of mine who is a flash developer and has close contact with adobe. According to his sources Apple want quite a large licence agreement from Adobe for flash - the reason being is that it is a direct competitor to Apple Quicktime.

A good weather app (and seems more accurate than most in my experience) is Meteo Weather Pro. What is nice is if you can graph the expected precipitation by hour over the next few days - I use this to time booking my lessons and have been quite successful.

The above is the pay app tho I believe there is a lite version for free.

Adobe have had a working flash player available internally for the iPhone for a long time. The problem with Flash is that it executes arbitrary third-party code. That's the sticking point as Apple are control-freaks who want the ability to vet all executable code which finds its way either directly or indirectly onto iPhones; something obviously impossible with Flash, just as with Java.

Crewmeal,

We were given them directly from Nokia to test them out before they were released. I mean Vodafone were selling them for £150 one off fee plus a £40 contract over 18/24months

Why would I pay that when I can get the other phones which are all a hell of a lot better? I just think Nokia are way out of their depths these days.

Even The Unofficial Apple Weblog (TUAW) is interested (!):

Five Apps For Aviators (http://www.tuaw.com/2009/08/11/five-apps-for-pilots/)

Applemacster

Anybody found a half decent FTL app for the Iphone yet ?

I use the following apps:

iE6B - Just in case ;)
Jet Fueling - To covert Kilos of fuel into Liters
FlightCrewiLog - To keep track of my flights, hours and duty times.
AeroWeather - For Wx
xeCurrency - For the latest exchange rates.
Flight Control - To kill time in cruise:E

Here's a good insight into how one aviation company uses their iphones:

Apple - iPhone in Business - Profiles - Airship Ventures (http://www.apple.com/iphone/business/profiles/airventures/?sr=hotnews.rss)

Can anyone recomend an app to be able to read pprune on the iPhone?

Safari......Get it on the internet as you do on your home PC.....:}

Err.... thanks call 100 :rolleyes:

I believe is an app dedicated to browsing forums So that you don't have to zoom in and out

Sorry, didn't mean it to sound as it did..:O
You are perfectly correct, there is an App for forums....I've not tried it I just use Safari and don't have enough problems to justify the spend, It costs £2.99 I think...
Check this out....
Forums for iPhone (http://forumsapp.com/)

I suggest you read the reviews in iTunes before downloading it..

Hope it's what you wanted..:ok:

Sorry if this is a little off thread but I broke my 3G iPhone screen recently.

Absolutley gutted. Apple wanted £120 for the honour of fixing it!

After a little research I found this item on ebay.

3G Apple iPhone screen DIY repair new GLASS / DIGITIZER on eBay (end time 31-Oct-09 10:25:03 GMT) (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=180423806959&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT)


Came the next day with all tools, instructions, and adhesive to do the job, and I had it good as new in an hour.

The guy was SO helpful when I emailed him asking questions as I didn't want to put just anything in my iPhone.

I was a little dubious about it being a genuine part as stated, but sure enough when it arrived it had APPLE on the connectors unlike some of the others I'd seen on the net.

Bit off thread I know, but though iPhone users would want to know about this as it saves you a fortune if your clumsy and a bit of a tight wad like me.

As for Apps - WUNDER RADIO is awesome although bit expensive. It's more reliable than the free radio apps I've found, and you can get pretty much any station including the BBC ones!

Also big fan of....

EBAY
CALENGOO
THE TRAIN LINE - just been released and free!

All the best

WLITS

Hello,

I've been using free version of Pilot Wizz but thought I'd ask if anyone has any views on this or other pilot related apps, good bad, interesting?

Cheers
Matt

areo weather- gives you all the TAFS for all the airports you set. very good.

FlightCom UK- quic kreferance list of radio frequencies. however said to have a few mistakes.

xWind- quick cross wind calculations

myConcert- good for many things other that flying but i use it for distance calculations as well as speed.

AirTycoon- nothing to do with helping you fly yourself but fantastic game to play and great fun for many hours. infact its the ONLY app i have payed for so far on my phone. everything else including the ones above are free.

I use the freeware Pilot Wizz and also aeroweather. I have no complaints with the free PW though my usage is largely limited at present anyway (student PPL) but so far so good! :ok:

I've been using PilotWizz Pro for the past month and love it, the best feature is the weight and balance section which when set up for your aircraft is really quick and easy to use. Well worth the money.

I also use LogTen as a backup for my logbook.

Hope this helps,

Jools

Good Reader
Its a great app for loading large PDF files like company manuals, AOM or AFM etc.The best bit is you can search text. You will also have to load on to your computer Iphone Explorer to be able to drag files and drop on to Iphone