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Senior Pilot
24th May 2009, 09:59
Mail on Sunday article (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1186965/Its-fair-copter-Millionaire-businessman-pursues-thief-2-hours---helicopter.html)

It's a fair copter! Millionaire businessman pursues thief for 2 hours ... from his helicopter
By STEPHANIE CONDRON and ANDY YOUNG
Last updated at 12:46 AM on 24th May 2009


When millionaire businessman Jeremy Taylor spotted a petty thief raiding his yard he was in the perfect place to do something about it...hovering right above the crook in his helicopter.

Mr Taylor, 38, had just taken off from his helipad on a business trip when he looked down and saw a suspicious white van at his timber yard and realised he was being burgled.

And in a scene straight out of an action-packed police drama, he embarked on a 21⁄2-hour chase in his £1.9million helicopter as the thief tried to escape with his property down country roads.

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Jeremy Taylor with his partner Eimear Fitzpatrick

At one stage, the burglar tried to hide in a wood but Mr Taylor flushed him out by hovering over the trees.

Mr Taylor even involved his mother and sister in the chase across the Norfolk countryside by telephoning them from his cockpit and they too went after the thief, in their cars.

The man eventually abandoned his van and fled on foot but was later arrested by police at his home after Mr Taylor passed on the van’s registration number.

But after all his efforts, Mr Taylor was to be disappointed when magistrates gave the thief only a conditional discharge.

The chase cost Mr Taylor £2,500 in helicopter fuel – far more than the value of stolen goods – but he said it was the principle of trying to catch the thief that was important.

He said: ‘I did not want to let him get away when I had the opportunity to go after him. I was determined to catch him because I have had break-ins before – but I have never had to chase anyone in a helicopter before.

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High Drama: Mr Taylor's £1.9million helicopter. The chase cost him £2,500 in fuel

‘It annoys me that people are prepared to break in to other people’s property. I just happened to be in the right place at the right time.’

Mr Taylor, a divorced father of four, runs a dumper-truck firm from his father’s farm at Binham in North Norfolk. He usually uses his 11-seat Augusta 119 helicopter for ferrying employees around.

He recalled: ‘I had just taken off in my helicopter for a business trip to Northern Ireland and was at about 200ft when I noticed my yard gates were open.

‘The van sped off and I ended up chasing it around half of North Norfolk. The van was probably going at about 50 to 60 miles per hour but the helicopter is capable of 190 mph and I was overhead or sitting behind him all the time.

‘I was cross. I thought: “You are not going to get away from me.” The thief knew I was following him all the time.’

Mr Taylor tracked the thief in his van from Binham to the seaside town of Wells-next-the-Sea, where the man tried to lose him by doing a U-turn.

The man then headed along country roads towards the market town of Fakenham and tried to lose the helicopter in traffic.

Mr Taylor said: ‘I was flying over Fakenham at about 2,000ft – the law says you have to be over 1,500ft in a congested area. You can see a van on the road below from 2,000ft with the naked eye. But all white vans look the same at that height and there were quite a few of them in the town.

‘Things were easier in the open countryside when I was able to fly at 500ft and keep a closer eye on him.’

At one stage in the chase, Mr Taylor hovered above woods for 20 minutes waiting for the thief to break cover.

During the pursuit he telephoned his sister Caroline, 28, and mother Anne via the helicopter’s satellite phone and asked for their help.

The women set out by car while Mr Taylor directed them from the air and when the two caught up with the van on the outskirts of Fakenham, they noted the van’s registration.
Mr Taylor’s mother’s part in the hair-raising chase ended when she ran out of petrol.

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The helicopter hangar

The burglar eventually abandoned his van at the village of Stody and fled on foot. Mr Taylor landed his helicopter and called in police, who arrested the man at his home in nearby Briston after tracing him via his number plate.

On Friday, Justin Holden, 28, admitted theft of firewood logs, pitchforks, diesel cans and a tractor battery and was given a conditional discharge by King’s Lynn magistrates.

Mr Taylor, whose partner is Eimear Fitzpatrick, said he was disappointed at the punishment, saying: ‘I am just annoyed that he got away with a slap on the wrist from the court.’

PC Jason Pegden of Norfolk Police said: ‘I’ve never come across anything like this before.’

The chase echoes an episode of The Bill when DCI Jack Meadows tracked a suspect through London from the air while, on the ground, two PCs gave chase in a patrol car.
And in the US TV drama 24, agent Jack Bauer, played by Kiefer Sutherland, used a helicopter to target gunmen on an oil rig.

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on21
24th May 2009, 10:43
What is the other option just let the offender carry on? Irrelevant of the sanctions of the court the thief deserves apprehending.

chopjock
24th May 2009, 10:56
I'm pretty sure a A119 does not consume over £500 worth of fuel every hour.:rolleyes: and 11 seats? If the journalists don't get all the facts right, how can you believe anything they say? Amazing how the papers "hype" it up.

Also the height restriction over built up areas is 1000 feet above the heighest structure, not 1500.:ok:

krypton_john
24th May 2009, 11:14
And the A119 doesn't have 11 seats either!

Never in Balance
24th May 2009, 11:27
If it was me, i would have done exactly the same thing.
Still curious to know how he was able to squeeze 11 seats in that chopper. :rolleyes:

fkelly
24th May 2009, 11:57
Mr Taylor, a divorced father of four, runs a dumper-truck firm

Perhaps they're seats for dumper-lumpers :p

Non-PC Plod
24th May 2009, 12:45
Interesting to see the similarities with "US TV Drama 24". Its almost exactly like Kiefer Sutherland targetting gunmen on an oil rig.:rolleyes:

B Sousa
24th May 2009, 13:33
I think the 2500 figure was for tax purposes.......:D


was given a conditional discharge by King’s Lynn magistrates.:=
We have crime because we allow it.

whoateallthepies
24th May 2009, 13:48
Why did he call his sister and mother on the phone? Why not call the police? Strange behaviour.

It is typical that the thieving b*****d got away with nothing. A "conditional discharge"!!! Means sweet FA to pikeys. When will magistrates get the message that the public is fed up with these token sentences. http://i334.photobucket.com/albums/m412/omanjohn/2637784011.jpg

DBChopper
24th May 2009, 14:13
Whoateallthepies - I was about to post on this but you have said everything I was about to!

Couldn't agree more :D

SASless
24th May 2009, 14:55
How much you want to bet the Plod would have told him to cease and desist if he had called them to report the crime and resulting pursuit?

Next....what will the Crats Agin Aviation will say to all this?

I would love to hear his real explanation why he never called the Police!

tottigol
24th May 2009, 15:02
I stopped reading after "11 seats".


Good thing Mr.Taylor did not run out of fuel himself after 2.5 hrs in the air, I wonder where his a/c CG was to begin with, the '119 is not so friendly with it when it comes to single pilot operations....Let's see.... he was already in the air...2.5 hrs....reserves...:cool:
Is Jet A in England 15 pounds sterling per gallon?:E

Retro Coupe
24th May 2009, 15:16
2 1/2 hour flight costing £2500 in fuel!? Thats a very convenient figure of £1000/hour in fuel costs. I think not. As for whether it was worth it, you need to ask Mr Taylor that one. He like most other people in the same situation would say yes. . The fact that the police didn't get involved from the beginning, saved the Great British taxpayers some money and probably meant that the van wasn't driven as quickly or as dangerously as it would have been had it been followed by a convoy of police vehicles with blue's and two's on.

dragman
25th May 2009, 01:19
I hate Tea Leaves. Definately would have done the same. Unfortunately as the guy's hanger has been plastered all over the paper, the filthy pikeys will probably nick that too.

Some of you lot make me laugh tho. Concentrating on giving the guy Sh!t. Nice. Note the title of the article on mentions a 2 hour chase....

Laters, germs

Ned-Air2Air
25th May 2009, 01:37
Perhaps they're seats for dumper-lumpers

Are they like oompa loompas :ok::ok:

VH-XXX
25th May 2009, 03:54
It's worth the fuel for the adrenaline rush. I was once called in in a fixed wing (as I was nearby) to track down a lone gunman after he killed his wife. Not long after came across a firebug on the scene of the crime. Was great fun chasing the car at low level until the passenger said he wanted to spew.

Adam Nams
25th May 2009, 05:57
Perhaps they're seats for dumper-lumpers

Are they like oompa loompas http://static.pprune.org/images/smilies/thumbs.gifhttp://static.pprune.org/images/smilies/thumbs.gif


or Lumpy Jumpers?


"Sir, where are you?"
"I'm near Melton Constable.......constable"

DOUBLE BOGEY
25th May 2009, 09:58
Who needs police observers/TI/Daylight 3 chip, when the pilot can track the scum all on his own.

I think the guy deserves a medal. I particularly like the way he neatly keeps his story compliant with Rule 6. Knows his stuff too!!

Pretty wife, nice helicopter, have a go hero. This is what made britain great. Stop giving the guy grief and admit it. We all would have loved to have done the same thing (if I was of course a millionaire with my own helicopter).

The dumper business must be lucrative.

DB

nigelh
25th May 2009, 10:15
Come on DB you know this is a site inhabited ( Not solely luckily !! ) by losers and R22 owners ...of course they are going to be jealous of a guy with a proper helicopter , althhough i am not sure about the colour :confused: white:confused: i know he is only a dump trucker but he could have a little more style :rolleyes: The £2,500 will be cost @ £1,000 an hour and journo will think that is all fuel ...normal for them.
Sound fun but would have been a lot more fun with a mate and a rifle ...shooting through the roof from 500 ft would have been great sport:D

Zorst
25th May 2009, 19:54
Mr Taylor,

Good calls and good skills.

Journos,

Poor effort - try getting some basic facts straight.

Magistrates,

Hang your heads in shame - you're part of a shockingly inept system.

British electorate,

Sit back and enjoy what you've allowed to happen.

dmanton300
26th May 2009, 12:10
Bearing in mind it was a theft, and the offender was caught I just hope the local constabulary assisted this gent in ensuring his MG19 was properly filled out including costs incurred in catching the scrote.