Jobs for Newbies....

[DanArcher]

Just had a quick holiday up in darwhine to catch up with friends & on a spur of the minute decision decided to go check out the job scene for low time pilots. I was quite suprised to be in an GA8 after only 30min of landing on this employers door step, 2 ccts later & i had a job offer.

I was also suprised to hear this employer gets at least 1 new resume a day land on his desk & yet he is struggling to find good pilots that can handle the aircraft in an acceptable manner, partly due to only considering pilots that are willing to show up on his door step.


So if you've got dam near or more than 400hrs & can fly an aeroplane well look in the usual places...... & get up there as I may not be able to take the position......... need any more hints???

[Mr. Hat]

Yep the same old formula works over and over again. Be there to meet the people get to know their names and get them to know yours..

[AussieNick]

making that drive on wednesday after hitting darwhine ap

[morno]

Dan, was this Kak Air?

Can't think of anyone else up there that has Airvans.

morno

[Mr. Hat]

very few will go out to meet and great the kak people and as a result your chances of getting a gig are quite good.

most want to just sit in darwin and wait.

[Okavango]

Hi. Is 400hrs a set requirement for insurance? Will any of the operators consider less experience? (eg 200hrs?)

[Kenneth]

I got in with 360 Hrs. (That was before they had Airvans)
It all depends on how you come across to bob and how in need he is for pilots. It can be very seasonal.
The best idea would be to make it a weekend. Head out to jabbas see the sights , do some fishing , visit the airport chat with bob or the CP , meet the other pilots.
The whole NT and possbly WA GA scene is a lot easier to crack when you know more people.
And believe me there is a good time to be had, with some of the most enjoyable flying you will do. Not to mention the life long friends you can make!!:ok:

[enalkay]

Having cut my teeth in Jabiru getting my first thousand hours flying vfr charter and scenics,i was then ready to move on and finally now am a jet jockey.I had the best time out there never got sworn at once and can only recommend it as a great place for newbies wanting to get ahead.As for this Dan who when i checked with the chief pilot last night had turned the job down well tough mate how can you spend all that money on a licence, send a grovelling resume wanting a job before you even had a commercial ,turn up some 3 months later with a new commercial be offered a job after an assesment of your entire package and whether you would fit in,be offered your first commercial job and turn it down,WHAT A HUGE BOOBOO!! .It is true and of late even more so that resumes are flooding in to operators like the one in question,experienced pilots who have lost there jobs thru companies folding,Qantaslink trainees who got cut,defence force pilots you name it Who do you think you are and I guess as a gen y human you think you can just walk into another job offer-fat chance with the number of real pilots out there looking for work.
Grow up realise that many successful pilots start with these sorts of jobs!!!

[AussieNick]

sent a resume and gave the guys at kak air a call today, have been told that there is a 450hr min requirement for insurance by a nice lady in the office there. my 275 hours wont cut that mustard sadly.

oh well, i'll just keep lookin

[FloRider]

AussieNick, at least you saved yourself a drive. There's a lot to be said for straight up honesty! Head on down these ways through the Kimberley. You never know your luck!:ok:

[PCFlyer]

AussieNick ... pfft!

I got told the same thing when I rang them a few years ago and ended up getting the nod about 3 weeks later with just over 300 hours.

And besides, if you do the drive, Kakair isn't the only company out there. :ok:

[Mr. Hat]

Nothing wrong with the drive and shaking a few hands boys. You just go out and say G'day and then one day when you want to move on from your private skydiving job they'll remember you and your effort.

It says alot when you make the trek just to meet people.

I learned all this stuff back when getting a flying job was basically impossible....

[DanArcher]

why go there....

Whilst I would have loved to beable to accept the position & work with a great bunch of guys up there at kak air, one must remember that this is a small industry & it never hurts to look after those who gave you your first start.......





grow up
Having cut my teeth in Jabiru getting my first thousand hours flying vfr charter and scenics,i was then ready to move on and finally now am a jet jockey.I had the best time out there never got sworn at once and can only recommend it as a great place for newbies wanting to get ahead.As for this Dan who when i checked with the chief pilot last night had turned the job down well tough mate how can you spend all that money on a licence, send a grovelling resume wanting a job before you even had a commercial ,turn up some 3 months later with a new commercial be offered a job after an assesment of your entire package and whether you would fit in,be offered your first commercial job and turn it down,WHAT A HUGE BOOBOO!! .It is true and of late even more so that resumes are flooding in to operators like the one in question,experienced pilots who have lost there jobs thru companies folding,Qantaslink trainees who got cut,defence force pilots you name it Who do you think you are and I guess as a gen y human you think you can just walk into another job offer-fat chance with the number of real pilots out there looking for work.
Grow up realise that many successful pilots start with these sorts of jobs!!!

[AussieNick]

PCFlyer, never said i wasn't gonna make the drive, i'm still going there tomorrow, never say never until the CP says never :}

[enalkay]

what doing meat bombing with a ppl yeah real good.Any ppl can do that no ppl can fly the job you were offered.get over yourself!!

[multime]

M
Any job is a job.
Hours, however hard fought. Don,t worry about the knockers, if you,ve got the guts and the determination the experience is rewarding and will pay off.
Everyone gets there. With committment.
Unlike a JET JOCK, (joke) enalkay.
Sounds like a severe attitude problem to me.
But good luck in your travells.
M:ok:

[DanArcher]

what doing meat bombing with a ppl yeah real good.Any ppl can do that no ppl can fly the job you were offered.get over yourself!!


The interesting part is that within 12 months or there abouts meat bombing will be considered a commercial operation by casa, hence cpl will soon be required for jump pilots

the draft CAR should be out soon if not already

[gutso-blundo]

Definitely looks like a good operation, and a great bunch of guys. I was out there recently & cut a few laps in the Airvan. CP said "yes", owner said "no" :(
A combination of a wife interstate and over 700hrs in the book were the nails in the coffin. Too much of a flight risk (no pun intended, awesome as it is :}) with Darwin and twins up the road.
Shame, I was really looking forward to spending a season in Kak! Good luck fellas!

[Clear to drop]

Dan,

I think you'll find that skydiving will continue to remain AOC free for those operations choosing to do so. It has been proposed that aircraft used at training organisations be maintained as if they were class B charter aircraft with up to a 12 month compliancy period being negotiated with CASA by the APF.

Further info can be obtained from the Director - Aircraft Operations, on the APF website.

CTD