View Full Version : Hats and Ties at EK
11th Apr 2009, 15:35
Just heard from a FO, that the guy he was flying with for 8 hours one way then 9 the other, wore his hat and tie the whole time . Yup, I asked him specifically, while in the flight deck? And yes he was wearing head sets on over the hat and everything. At least the guys at QR have a reason to look like the came out of the forties. Im not sure but I think even the QR guys take there hats off in the Flight deck.
I wonder if he had the laminated card stuck up his B#TT
11th Apr 2009, 15:50
An interesting one indeed, in my outfit, even after ToC crew are allowed to put loud speaker on and headsets off.
Does he always do that? or maybe he is nearing retirement and trying to find something new:ugh: .... But indeed an interesting phenomena this day. ;)
11th Apr 2009, 16:29
If true then all I can say is what a muppet:ugh::ugh:
11th Apr 2009, 16:34
Not near retirement , his staff # in the 380000 so fairly new, maybe he's never been a Captain before. Looser comes to mind.:ugh:
11th Apr 2009, 16:43
Why is he a muppet? He's obviously having a larf... Keeps the hosties guessing about his sanity, too!
Looser comes to mind.
Love it when people spell "loser" with two Os.
11th Apr 2009, 17:09
I will bet this years profit share that he will wear it in the Sim too.:}
11th Apr 2009, 17:13
didn't your mummy tell you NOT to comment about things you clearly do not know anything about?
You display the same amount of arrogance we have become used to see all around the world when coming across an EK crew. Lately, and I wonder why:}, EK crews have become a lot more friendly when they see their counterparts from "the goat" but you clearly are still living with your head up your A@<hidden>$$.
So we look like we come out of the 40's huh? Ill take that as a compliment as those where the days where sex was safe and flying dangerous!
For what its worth: once the goat's flight deck door is closed hats and ties get thrown in the back, just like anywhere else!
11th Apr 2009, 17:20
F/O told me a tale; while taxiing for t/off, Capt (reputation for being a stickler- and I'm talking recent, not Imperial Airways days), suddenly notices that said F/O had removed his tie; put the park brake on right there and then and told him to put tie back on, which he did. Another day, another F/O, same Capt, similar scenario, but this guy decided to tell the Capt to "Foxtrot Oscar", or words to that effect (nothing in company regs requiring the wearing of ties on the flight deck).
I guess it takes all sorts to make the world go round.
11th Apr 2009, 19:43
Not sure if the EK FOM has changed, but it did say that ties could be removed on the flight deck at the captain's discretion...of course, I'm sure there's one out there that won't roll with it...
Is this all we have to bleat about today -bloody ties and hats?
11th Apr 2009, 20:10
Kinda makes me glad I fly a Freighter , no prima donnas or wankers on my flight deck. Ties and hats...... ? You gotta be kidding , get a life.
11th Apr 2009, 22:27
Gents... It's obvious as the egg on our faces what the captain in post #1 was trying to achieve... With a staff number like the one quoted, he was after a quickie 10,000 hour 'bash' in 'is 'at. (If you hafta wear the 'at, yuh gotta look 'cool'.)
I imagine that the wife of one of our (now) longer term 'Boos captains will have heard about the new rools and will be on standby in the front galley whenever she flys to report (to Head Office) any miscreant pilot who dares to go to the toilet without first donning his tie, (as she did some years ago, when hubby was a brand new captain).
12th Apr 2009, 00:51
i would imagine the guy was having some fun wearing the hat and headset together. As for a guy stopping the aircraft and getting the F/O to put their tie back on, surely nobody could be such a bell end !!.
Its about time the company ditched the hat to save some costs. Ditch the silly gold wings on our shirts too.
Bring on the freighter, hopefully wont be reported for wearing my shellsuit, tucked into my white socks, slipped into my oh so cool crocks !!.
12th Apr 2009, 05:00
He was just getting ready to meet the CAA after his long duty...:suspect:
12th Apr 2009, 06:41
On a recent visit to the clinic with my kids there was a dude who wanted to be named 'captain' .... You should have seen the look of the staff. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
Well, after the capping in productivity pay, zero bonus, property meltdown, some seem to hold on to the last thing they have here in DXB.... :ugh:
On a positive note:
EK can stuff the hat, tie and recent changes in our contracts up where the sun never shines.
12th Apr 2009, 07:39
Just do what I do. Run a SANTA flight deck.
Swearing Allowed No Ties Allowed.
12th Apr 2009, 09:49
Why bother to even getting wound up about it, we all know that the management here at EK are a bunch of tossers, so just carry on as before and don't think about it. :ok:
As long as they keep wasting money on this sort of crap I won't be shutting down an engine taxing in!!
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12th Apr 2009, 09:53
Now you have gotten me really worried about the state EK is in!
No seriously, I knew here in QR we had some pilots demanding from everybody to call them Captain. This was leading to some incredibly insane conversations in the hallway going like this:
Good morning Captain.
Ah how are you doing Captain, everything ok?
Sure Captain. And what about yourself.
Very well thank you Captain. And how is the Captain's family doing lately?
There even is one guy, and I know 100% this is true, who demands his wife and kids to be calling him Captain!
So yeah, I thought that kind of behaviour was reserved for the best airline in Doha. But it seems like EK is taking over all the good habits these days.
Way to go!:ugh:
12th Apr 2009, 12:34
Don't worry shneider me old chum - we'll crush the 'captain' revolution before it gets too far:ok:
A hat's only useful for putting epaulettes, ID, e-gate card, keys etc in when in the hotel room - makes a good container..
As for no rucksacks, backpacks - well, I find a plastic carrefour bag to be very good for carrying the old EK jimjams through the terminal these days:}
WK I think a Choitrams green bag has a little added class. It certainly caught the eye of the security screeners and made them smile!!!!!!!
12th Apr 2009, 15:02
ok, ok - how about a 'Park and Rob' bag for the ultimate in classy plastic bling:}:}
12th Apr 2009, 18:08
"On a recent visit to the clinic with my kids there was a dude who wanted to be named 'captain' .... You should have seen the look of the staff"
I am sure its the same one who reported a cabin crew for not calling him captain when he was a pax in 1st class.
13th Apr 2009, 04:58
From the beautifully laid out, expensively laminated flyer "The Emirates Pilot Uniform; The image of professionalism";
"Hat; It may be removed on board the aircraft, or whilst seated"
"Tie; May be removed once in the flight deck, but must be replaced whenever leaving the fight deck"
So, if a Capt tells you to put the tie back on..tell him to GF!! I think for FOs, this is the only reason to keep this marvelous document in your flight bag..shove it under the nose of the tosser Capt that comes up with that sort of crap.
And by the way..."the image of professionalism??????" At the end of my last far east flight that had started off at 0300, and where the flight was full so therefore no "soft blocked" seats for my crew, I looked at my crew waiting for the train to the other side of the terminal. They had had no reasonable rest, and they were looking ABSOLUTELY shattered..bags under their eyes, sitting on their suitcases, yawning etc. So, our company focuses on wearing a friggin hat "so it looks good", but our crew look like something dragged out of the rubbish bin because EK is too stingy to provide adequate rest either on flights, or for that matter between flights.
A firm grip of the non-essentials!
And no comments about me keeping the uniform flyer please..I keep it for amusement purposes when I'm by myself..keeps me off the porn sites for another three minutes.:O
13th Apr 2009, 06:25
Regarding the no back packs etc...
I always preferred the old time favourite LULU hypermarket for foodstuff plastic bags. Great reactions, especially in the LHR terminal!
Do not let them catch you guys...:ok:
I would hate to see EK going the same way as QR did a couple of years ago. EK used to be the benchmark airline for this region. Without that there will be no dignity left!
QR UNITED 2009
13th Apr 2009, 10:15
In Qatar Airways rules are made to be obtained and if you dont do it you get a warning letter by CEO or he tells GMFO to give it to you .Minumum rest flights are not intrest of CEO ( keeps flights going) Aircrafts landing below minimum fuel (not important) it save fuel Crew fatique ( its ok as longe flight was done ) School alowance lower then standard ( its ok there is Pakistani school)Rostering staff not doing there job ( thats fine as long as they dont help the crew ) If a Capt delay a flight for 6 min he will be given a warning letter but if a roster issue leave 5 months late thats fine ( who care about pilots leave) Its more important who will escort him to promotion flights then pilots welfereHe removed good Qatari management ( H.B ) and put in funny one I never served military but i was told its so similar : you are here to obay the order not to think He manage to put in place people who will listen 100 % what he say and never say NO and i am sure most of them will stay there for ever ( example Mr Snake ......etc) It is more important how you look ( hat ,tie..) then how you fly .In QR you need clereance for fleet transfere,upgrade,leave,go to toilet or any kinda movment and you will NOT get it if you brake one of rule .He stopped cabin crew entering cockpit and manage to put it in OM (A) now days he stop CRM ( mix pilots and CC ) in same class One day he might come with any stupid rule and it will be supported ( when you aske answer is : "you know how it is over here"
13th Apr 2009, 17:46
This stuff looks kind of familiar.
13th Apr 2009, 20:34
...........thanx guys for the funny posts. Keep them coming. It's unbelievable with the way the world economy is gnawing at our existance the powers that be worry about how we look.:ugh: Talk about priorities:mad:
14th Apr 2009, 02:30
The Captain must have been a Bomber Pilot during his first life.... remember the WW2 pilots wearing their hats on in flight?....
15th Apr 2009, 04:27
Hat - as stated -perfect for all the bits and pieces in the hotel room..
I'm getting good mileage out of the tougher MMI bags, personally..
17th Apr 2009, 16:16
Yes I start my PA with Captain "..."
I am in command of the aeroplane and am not inviting any passenger to address me by my first name. There are standards which I intend to maintain.
Ask any of the Nigels if they had any problem with calling their superiors 'sir'.
This is an airline; there is no income without aeroplanes moving from A to B and that means a Captain and that means we are the most important people in this business. Think of the EK clinic; the Doctors there are religiously called by Dr "first name". We are called by our first name only but this an airline not a hospital. There is no respect for us and I for one will insist on it. To do otherwise is a slight on our profession/job/trade.
17th Apr 2009, 16:44
"Jackets must be worn on layover flights." It is written, chaps!
17th Apr 2009, 16:46
I have to say that I find the "Dr First Name" business demeaning for the doctors, who should be given more respect and be addressed by their surnames. It's almost as bad as the madness EK IFS has just introduced of calling our passengers "customers".