Logging Radio operator hours

[liam548]

I understand you can log hours as a radio operator in your logbook, if you are completely in charge of radio work during flights.

Are these hours completely seperate from total hours?

Liam

[Gertrude the Wombat]

You can write whatever you like in your log book, but it won't count for anything.

[tangovictor]

why would you want too ?

[liam548]

why would you want too ?

if they arnt worth anything you wouldnt.

[Whopity]

why would you want too ?The FRTOL is a Flight Crew Licence ANO Sched 8
Personal flying log book
35 (1) Every member of the flight crew of an aircraft registered in the United Kingdom and every person who engages in flying for the purpose of qualifying for the grant or renewal of a licence under this Order shall keep a personal flying log book in which the following particulars shall be recorded:
(c) the capacity in which the holder acted in flight;

(2) Particulars of each flight during which the holder of the log book acted either as a member of the flight crew of an aircraft or for the purpose of qualifying for the grant or renewal of a licence under this Order, as the case may be, shall be recorded in the log book at the end of each flight or as soon thereafter as is reasonably practicable,including:

So if this was the only licence you hold and you wish to renew it you have to comply with Article 35.

Operating Capacity is logged as RTO!

[BackPacker]

Operating Capacity is logged as RTO!

Just wondering how many aircraft still require a separate RTO.

I fear it's the whole "logging P2 in a light aircraft" discussion all over again.

Are these hours completely seperate from total hours?

The "total hours" column is a way of checking that you've done your sums right. So you add up all the hours that you flew in the different types of aircraft (SEP, MEP, Glider, type-rated, hot air balloon, space shuttle) and it should equal your total hours. Likewise, you add up all the hours that you did in various capacities (PIC, P2, Dual, RTO, whatever) and these should also match your total hours. The "total hours" is just that - a grand total.

In fact, if you were to fancy logging your time as Self-Loading Freight in the back of a 737 you would log that as "PAX" in the capacity column, and add it to your total hours as well.

Legally speaking, there is *no* requirement anywhere to have a certain amount of unspecified "total time". For issue or renewal of a license or whatever there's always a specification that you need to have a certain hours in a certain capacity on a certain type of aircraft.