Boring

[Yobbo]

Hey guys , this must be the most boring forum on PPRUNE . Surely there must be something going on in aviation in Canada.

[Willie Everlearn]

Nah.
Nothing very interesting goes on over here. Most pilots in Canada don't fly for an airline. They are temporarily employed by the travel industry to fly aeroplanes at pseudo 'carriers' while playing musical chairs with the IT bucket and spade brigade until the pseudo carrier falls out of favor and goes out of business because it is no longer flavor of the month. (then there's fuel pricing)
Not very creative, eh?
Two airlines in Canada. Air Canada and West Jet. Most of their pilots are on another forum. Not much here applies to their goldfish bowl.
I've tried to stir the pot in the past but nothing ever comes of it. :confused:

[SoloPilot]

For some reason Canadian pilots don't use pprune very much or even know about it. Most are on a certain other forum that, take my word, has it's fair share of controversy and interesting discussion.

[vrefplus5]

LMFAO Emile....so true !! Hahahaha

[varigflier]

Does anyone mind sharing the name of the other forum??

[peterpuck]

I believe they are talking about avcanada.ca

[Tree]

That would be the ACPA (Air Canada Pilot's Association) private forum. There you will find extreme revisionist theory coupled with phantasmorical thoughts.

[SoloPilot]

I believe they are talking about avcanada.ca

That's the one.

[extreme P]

Just as things were getting all boring in Canada finally there is a new headline. Forging licences and logbooks seems to be no big deal. Go figure.

CALGARY - A former WestJet pilot will not have a criminal record after he admitted to forging documents to show he had a valid airline transport pilot's licence.

However, to keep his record clean, Ryan .. must abide by all conditions of a 12-month probationary period, including completing 150 hours of community service.

The judge then warned the man that if he did not abide by the conditions and complete the community service work he would be brought back to court and would lose his discharge.

Provincial court Judge Bruce Millar handed out the sentence on Monday after accepting a joint submission by defence lawyer Don McLeod and Crown prosecutor Susan Mulligan.

"Mr. .. has two family members who are WestJet pilots, both successful," Mulligan told the judge, alluding to ..' father and brother-in-law. "So it's not hard to understand the misgivings he took when he

didn't hold a licence, to follow the family members to fly planes. Once he made the mistake, he carried on, and it snowballed from there."

Mulligan noted that .., 25, has gone on to obtain his necessary qualifications and during the relevant time period of the forgery - May 23, 2007, to Dec. 23, 2007 - he did not pilot any aircraft that he was not qualified to fly and no passengers were put at any risk by his actions.

McLeod noted his client has worked in the industry since 2001, initially as a commercial pilot, and now has his air transport pilot licence (ATPL). .. has worked with Bar XH Air in Medicine Hat since February 2008, but has not been hauling passengers.

The lawyer presented the judge with several character references indicating his client's skills as a pilot.

"They refer to him as skilled, accomplished and professional. He is dedicated, hard-working and conscientious," said McLeod. "He has strong family support and is engaged to be

married. He has suffered publicity, as far as these proceedings, which has brought him stress and humiliation. A criminal record would have devastating impact on his career of eight years now."

Court heard the incident began when .. applied to work for WestJet, after he claimed to have written the necessary examinations and had completed the necessary hours.

He provided a photocopy of a licence and test results, which were forged, and was hired on Sept. 17, 2007, on the understanding he would subsequently supply the original licence.

.. then claimed the original had been stolen from his vehicle on Oct. 23, 2007, and obtained a temporary faxed copy of his licence but not an ATPL, in order to permit him to participate in a check ride.

"Each time that Ryan .. presented the fraudulent ATPL he knew it was a false document that he had created himself and he intended those to whom he presented it to act upon it as if it were genuine," said an admitted statement of facts signed by the two lawyers and himself, and entered as an exhibit.

After the check ride, WestJet officials became increasingly concerned as they still had never received an original ATPL or examination results for ..... and his father, then also a captain employed by WestJet, went to the Transport Canada office, where the accused provided written results for both tests.

However, the documents he signed and provided were from his brother-in-law's exams, which the brother-in-law had passed in order to obtain his valid ATPL.

Transport Canada conducted an investigation into ..' claims and an exhaustive search concluded he had never written the necessary exams. He was then suspended on Dec. 17, 2007, from his two-month employment by WestJet and has never been reinstated.

.. was later subject to a Transport Canada administrative hearing as a result of his conduct and his valid ATPL was suspended for four months.

.. declined to make any comment during the hearing. He faces other charges in Court of Queen's Bench in connection with the same incident, but Mulligan said they will be dropped on Friday at criminal appearance court.