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emirates001
24th Feb 2009, 14:33
Looking for an answer to the following:-
Can you log flight time as P2, flying a certified single pilot/ single engine aircraft privately. When the owner/operater deems it to be safer operating it multi crew?
Both pilots are type rated.
Anyone have any ideas?
Thank you.
nick14
24th Feb 2009, 14:44
Pretty sure that if it is certified for Single pilot ops then it can only be operated as such officially. Meaning that even if you do fly as P2 you cannot log the hours as such.
Its the same deal when operating as safety pilot for ex. a king air. SPA so only 1 pilot logging hours.
Nick
OneIn60rule
24th Feb 2009, 15:02
Unless the type has been changed to MUlTI CREW then you can't log p2.
It's not up to the operator to deem it Multi crew.
If you are flying a C172 and the owner says it's safer to operate it as multi crew (cough-sputter,gay).. still no.
1/60
Keygrip
24th Feb 2009, 20:51
Depends really on the aircraft type and the use it is being put to.
Tell us more.
How come a private operation in a single engine aircraft that requires a type rating?....and which country are you talking about?
Bittair3000
25th Feb 2009, 22:51
According to the local CAA here in Iceland, if the aircraft is classed as a single pilot a/c but the type of flight conducted requires two pilots (e.g. commercial ifr/night flying) it is possible to log the flight either as PIC or SIC, but not Multi-Crew.
Aircraft such as the Do228, DHC-6, Fairchild Metro and the BE-20 which are flown single pilot in many parts of the world are always crewed by two pilots here, and these hours are logged as multi crew since the pilot's type rating stipulates two flight crew members.
usedtofly
27th Feb 2009, 14:16
In the UK there are many single pilot aircraft operated by two crew under the terms of the company's AOC
I fly a King Air and all our public transport flights are two crew.
So depending on where you fly the answer is yes (however both pilots must hold the type rating for the aircraft in question).
The really bizarre thing about this tho' is that you don't need an MCC to fly under these terms.
It is all a matter of agreement with the CAA
:)
Oops, I just realised that the original question referred to flight time on a single so the chances are .....NO (I think) :}
Multi-pilot TIME refers to multi-pilot OPERATION which may be conducted in a single-pilot AEROPLANE, as may be required by the type of operation, specified in the AOC.
Don't mix SPA/MPA with SPO/MPO!