24th Feb 2009, 08:49
I'm looking to pick up some charter work in the UK working for a small company that provides leisure flights and the occasional charter. Sight-seeing, special occasion present and/or 'company bonding days', that type of thing. Does anybody have any info on what is an appropriate rate to charge as a free lance fATPL(A) pilot?
Any advice or steers in the right direction would be much appreciated.
Something on the small side of Zero I guess. One the mainland the hourly rate for any s/e work is a lukewarm handshake, maybe a free coffee!
24th Feb 2009, 11:07
Usually about 250-500 euro a day although this depends on the
employer and work ..
Dont sell yourself short .The more sep experience you have obviously the higher the charge
24th Feb 2009, 13:37
Never heard of anyone doing bona-fide single engine charter flights. A lot of flying schools do them under the pretence of trial lessons. I suppose this would require an instructor rating and would be very low paid. For multi-piston charter expect about £150 per day.
24th Feb 2009, 14:28
Looked into this a while ago but it requires some careful control of docs and a huge amount of investment to set it up yourself.
I stand to be corrected but when I looked at it, you needed an AOC for sight seeing, one of the "A to A" type (you depart and land at the same place).
For charter work, you most definitely need an AOC (A to B). On top of that for charter work and because you are a Single Engine, it will be VFR only (UK).
For single pilot OPS (not sightseeing anymore but charter), you need 700 hours flight time (EU OPS).
500 Euros a day for pleasure flights ? That's almost 10 times the hourly cost of a 152 ? I assume it is for a PC12 or similar right ?
I think a rate equivalent to a flight instructor's in the UK should be expected. If you take part in getting the clients, organising the full event etc, see how much cash you can help generating and ask for your (sensible) cut.
Good luck !
24th Feb 2009, 16:23
There are however certain 'operators' and I use the term loosely who try to circumvent the rules and regulations and will rent an aircraft to someone then put them in touch with a pilot. In theory. I would proceed with caution here, get on the wrong side of the authorities at your peril.
will fly for food 06
24th Feb 2009, 17:49
I get paid £200 a day plus expenses for single engine flying. This is not just vfr sight seeing though.
24th Feb 2009, 18:51
Many thanks for the replies; all useful. The company has an AOC and is above board so I've no worries on that front. I'm just looking to keep busy with a bit of local flying while the day job is quiet.
Any other comments are more than welcome.
24th Feb 2009, 20:07
I'm thinking TheGlide might be having a little joke. Up to 500 euro a day flying a SEP/turboprop about? Those sums don't add up!
will fly for food 06 I get paid £200 a day plus expenses for single engine flying. This is not just vfr sight seeing though.
Skydiving, towing ? Don't need to give your game away but it is not public transport right (charter) ?
Stupidbutsavable, what aircraft size do you have in mind ? 172 ? 208 ? Based on what the basic, wet hourly rate is you should be able to work something out.