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sundown18
15th Jan 2009, 19:49
Hi Guys
Just wondering if anyone could help me my local hospital is planning to put a car park right next to the helipad and i was just wondering if that would somehow affect the use of the helipad by the local air ambulance if anyone wants to see the helipad location look up 51° 8'34.49"N 0°54'57.83"E on Google earth and they are going to position the car park in the field next to the pad and as you can see if it goes ahead it will be surrounded on all sides by car parks and buildings some of which have quite tall chimneys

VeeAny
15th Jan 2009, 19:56
Just to help, this link shows that location 51.142914, 0.916064 - Google Maps (http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=51.142914,+0.916064&jsv=141e&sll=53.800651,-4.064941&sspn=15.24674,46.582031&ie=UTF8&geocode=FQJhDAMdYPoNAA&split=0)

15th Jan 2009, 20:22
One would hope that your local Air Ambulance have been consulted about the building work either directly or through Ambulance Control.

Hedge36
15th Jan 2009, 20:57
For the love of all that is good in the world... punctuate. Please.

RJC
15th Jan 2009, 21:24
Colchester hospital helipad is in the car park.

Google Maps (http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&sll=51.142888,0.915921&sspn=0.004099,0.00721&ie=UTF8&ll=51.910659,0.899699&spn=0.002015,0.003605&t=h&z=18&iwloc=A)

The pad is actually raised a bit. That has been there for years.

spinwing
15th Jan 2009, 23:31
Mmmm ....

Looks Ok to me .... what exactly is the perceived problem?


:confused:

SASless
16th Jan 2009, 02:32
Sounds like the ordinary commonplace hospital helipad based upon my experience.:mad:

MightyGem
16th Jan 2009, 07:55
my local hospital is planning to put a car park right next to the helipad
One of our local hospitals put a car park ON the helipad. No more helipad. :confused:

R44-pilot
16th Jan 2009, 08:10
Looking where most AA pilots have to land, I wonuldt think that would be a problem at all....

Brilliant Stuff
16th Jan 2009, 09:19
Coventry has got the pad in the middle of the car park.
Oxford has the car park in the undershoot and the cemetary in the overshoot. Handy that.

FloaterNorthWest
16th Jan 2009, 09:56
Doubt it will affect the AA as they go in and out of fair worse places.

May affect the paintwork on some of the cars. :}

FNW

kpd
16th Jan 2009, 18:18
Mater-too near jail and a little history there!!!
Beaumont-Irelands neurosurgical centre-NO helipad!!

Old Skool
17th Jan 2009, 11:31
One hospital just cleared a few parking spots, painted a yellow block and hey presto...N29 01 17.99 W080 55 15.84
available day or night...

Pink Panther
17th Jan 2009, 19:28
The thread is starting to run off course a bit but to reply to one of the contributers. Beaumont hospital doesn't have a helipad, but it does have a football pitch beside the hospital car park which is used when required by IRCG 61's.:ok:

Daifly
19th Jan 2009, 22:14
At the risk of taking it more off topic, whereabouts is the Derriford Helipad?

I used to work at Plymouth City Airport (ooooh!) and used to see the helimed disappear behind the trees but can't see anything that looks pad like on Google Earth.

Freewheel
19th Jan 2009, 23:07
Perhaps you could ask your friendly hospital authority to add 1 more floor to their car park, locked off and equipped for use AS the helipad......

Bertie Thruster
20th Jan 2009, 11:19
UK Dept of Health helipad guidance doc:


http://195.92.246.148/knowledge_network/documents/HBN_15_03_Exec_summ_20080229102606.pdf

Exec summary only, they are charging £50 for the full copy now!

Daifly
20th Jan 2009, 12:02
SilsoeSid - will explain why it's so difficult to spot then!

Great, thanks.

Tony Chambers
3rd Feb 2009, 22:10
All UK hospital helipads should in fact meet ICAO standards and many do not meet the minimum recommended standard.

We should also look at the differences between AA pilots and HEMS pilots and the flight clearances given in emergency situations.

Also there has been and still is many discussions about secondary road transfer of AA/HEMS patients and the use of playing fields away from the main hospital sites.

By the looks of the GE image the helipad has no markings as is required.

JAR-OPS3 and HBN 15-03 are two good guidance documents.

trickii
28th Aug 2010, 14:46
It is sometimes difficult to interpret whether helipads can in fact meet ICAO standards.Take a look at the current disasterous proposals to site a new helipad in the main public area next to patients (65 ft from a ward) outside Frimley Park hospital outside...

Tell me what you think?

Would you land at first floor level on a narrow pad,next to the main ward (waking them all up three times a night )to a busy hospital at 3am in the morning,mid winter,with wind sheer, rain, close to heavy concentrations of people with no lighting?

:zzz:

500e
28th Aug 2010, 19:29
First helicopter lands at Musgrove Park Hospital helipad (From Chard & Ilminster News) (http://www.chardandilminsternews.co.uk/video/100858/read/)

Including video

THE FIRST helicopter landed at the new helipad at Musgrove Park Hospital (http://www.chardandilminsternews.co.uk/search/?search=Musgrove+Park+Hospital), Taunton (http://www.somersetcountygazette.co.uk/news/taunton_news/), this morning.
Hospital officials assembled outside the Accident and Emergency Department at 11.30am to watch the landing just before midday.
The new helipad was officially opened by the Chairman of NHS South West Charles Howeson.
Jo Cubbon, Chief Executive at Musgrove Park Hospital, said: "The helipad will allow us to provide an even higher level of service for the people of Somerset who need expert help quickly after injury or sudden illness.
“We live in a rural area and road transport is often too slow to deal with emergencies.
"In addition, treatments for illnesses such as stroke and heart attacks are improving significantly and it can make a huge difference if patients can get to a well equipped accident and emergency centre quickly."