Will it be better to study here

[Riz0]

Will it be better to study here than the UK as it's cheaper and JAA approved.

What do you guys think of this school, check it out

private pilot, learn to fly with Orlando Flight Training

They can issue a JAA license and are the first I have found in the US.

obviously alot cheaper than the UK schools

any thoughts?

Thanks

[Riz0]

private pilot, learn to fly with Orlando Flight Training (http://www.flyoft.com/pro_pilot_course.php)

[INNflight]

disregard...too early for me brain :ouch:

[AlphaMale]

Might help you out.

http://www.pprune.org/professional-pilot-training-includes-ground-studies/318200-nac-vs-oft-vs-oba-vs-eft.html

http://www.pprune.org/professional-pilot-training-includes-ground-studies/206623-european-flight-training-eft.html

There are a few other threads floating around on the other schools in Florida.

Ormond Beach Aviation - Home Page - Welcome! (http://www.flyoba.com/)

learn to fly, helicopter training, private and commercial pilot training with OFT (http://www.flyoft.com/)

European Flight Training - the Difference is the Approach.™ (http://www.flyeft.com/)

Naples Air Center - Home (http://www.naples-air-center.com/)

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[preduk]

Three things I see with flying in the US;

1) The USD vs GBP isn't great at the moment, if you work out the costs they aren't really that much cheaper. Example:

OFT PPL Course - £5,752 ($8,525USD)
Flights to the US probably between £400-700
Food/Car Rental/Social Occasions?

Highland Airways in Inverness PPL - £4,600
Accommodation - £10 per night.

Obviously the weather is better in Florida.

2) The American flying enviroment is completly different to Europe; the weather, terrain, radio phraselogoy etc. are all different so you wouldn't have any proper European experience.

3) If you pay all your money into the states then their economy benefits and ours suffers, meaning air training schools will have to push their prices up because of the lack of clients, it also means that those who become instructors may be affected by the trade leaving the country.

Many people me disagree with me, but thats my views on it :}

[AlphaMale]

Not forgetting the hassle of Visas, finger prints etc. ;)

[Riz0]

If its the same qualification and half the price (where some schools actually are), couldn't these minor issues not be much of a problem??
wouldn't you think it is worth it...
if Uk flight schools want to remain competitive with overseas schools, shouldn't they maybe reduce their price

[isi3000]

Where do you intend to fly after your PPL? If it is the UK it would clearly benefit you to get some experience flying here. I work it out to be cheaper to fly here in the UK at the moment. The only problem is the weather :uhoh:

[Riz0]

How is it cheaper to fly in the UK at the moment? and im planning on gaining experience abroad before I return to the UK

[preduk]

I would say having no european flight experience is a major issue :ok: If I wanted to get my UK driving licence I wouldn't got to the US to get it, why? The roads are different, the traffic is different and the general atmosphere is different.

Yes you can come back here and build on your hours but you wont pick up the tips, advice or knowledge from European Based instructors who know about the enviroment they are flying in.

The FTOs over here can't bring their prices down to compete with the America schools because of Tax. They pay higher VAT, Fuel and income tax.

It's cheaper to fly in the UK at the moment because of the crap USD v GBP rates at the moment, if you are looking to get it all on the cheap then South Africa or New Zealand would be better.

[mcgoo]

OBA is £4695 for PPL on the 150 at the minute which includes housing and night qualification, RT, 3 attempts at each ground exam, study kit and visa costs, in the last few days BA have direct flights to Orlando for £172 each way, total £5039.

Highland doesn't include RT course £100, night qualification £500, skill test £400, housing (using preduk's £10 a night figure for 21 nights) £210, PPL course £4,600, total £5810.

So with the USA option, you could still have around 7 hours flying with an instructor when you get back to adjust to UK airspace for the same price. Or you could also sit the FAA standalone PPL for that extra cost and hold both JAA and FAA PPL's.

Also I noticed preduk only added food and social occasions to the US prices, clearly people at the Highland flying school do not ever go out or eat! :E


Just posted for people to see you need to compare like for like and read whats included in packages and what isn't, it can make a big difference!

[preduk]

mcgoo,

That is where you are wrong, us Scots go out hunting for our meals every night therefore costing nothing :ok:

The money spent on food/social occasions can be covered by the money you would need to spend on renting a car AND buying your flights to/from America.

[mcgoo]

preduk

You don't need to rent a car for PPL and also if you read my comparison above I have included return flights to the US in my total.

happy food hunting! :ok:

[preduk]

Yeh but there is no way you're going to get to the states for £152 with BA especially, there will be more costs to it.

I did see you had wrote that, went to edit it and my internet crashed... Doh! :ugh:

[mcgoo]

I never mentioned £152, in the last week or so I searched with BA and found Gatwick to Orlando direct flights in January for £172 each way including taxes.

I've just double checked and it's gone up, it's now £173 each way including taxes, fees and surcharges.

[Riz0]

How does this place sound to you guys instead of the USA

Canadian CPL/IR License - Commonwealth OACI License - European JAA-ATPL license (http://www.cargair.com/flightschool/jaalicense.html)

and you do experience flight training in Europe

[isi3000]

How is it cheaper to fly in the UK at the moment? and im planning on gaining experience abroad before I return to the UK


Flying in the UK means you can fly in an area near your home (assuming you live here) which means no extra accomodation/food costs. It also means no visa fees (mainly USA), flight costs and any other extra costs. It's just the weather here that would make it difficult to get more than a few hours a week.

[Rj111]

Going to the US just seems like an enormous hassle for a minor cash saving, which would probably be offset by the fact that you don't come away with UK flying exp anyway. Maybe when you could get 2.05 dollars to your pound but now, unless you're in a hurry it seems a bad idea.

I bet there would be loads of hidden cost associated with going to the US that you don't think about as well, like transport from the Airport to your destination. Which usually costs a bomb - would cost me about 20 quid to get to LGW and back, for example.

Besides, who would feed my fish when i'm gone? :(