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andyandlinda
25th Oct 2008, 12:33
Just noticed on PPJN that Parc are advertising for a First Officer on the 707 based in Africa.

Cant be many of them left flying in the world let alone anyone floating around with a type rating.

Anyone know who the airline is am just intrested in who is flying them now.

Can remember standing as a young lad at Heathrow watching them blast off great sound with that long trail of black smoke out the back.

mwafrika
25th Oct 2008, 17:03
Very interesting. I think Sudan Airways is still operating them. Might be the only operator in Africa. I dont fly in Africa but don't most airports have noise restrictions on them? The 707 was a thunderous beast in its days as one of the pioneers of commercial jets. The last time I spotted one was a few years ago as a US stratotanker. I've also seen, on TV albeit, ex Airforce 1.
Anyone holding a type on 707 is a real aviator. I can only imagine what flying it would be like with the five million round dial instruments.

BelArgUSA
25th Oct 2008, 17:14
Was a great plane...
Last I flew to its "permanent desert retirement" was about 1993.
Some former civilian 707s still flying nowadays in South America.
Argentina, Brazil have a few. But they are operated by the military.
If any other still flying in Africa would be Congo-Kinshasa, besides Sudan.
There are a few flying with JT8D low-noise STC...
Saw a fairly recent picture in a magazine of one.
Many of the NATO AWACS are ex-civilian 707s...
xxx
:)
Happy contrails

bond7
25th Oct 2008, 18:03
Travolta is the only private citizen in the U.S. to own and operate a Boeing 707. He employs a cockpit crew of six, who along with Travolta wear navy-blue uniforms and jaunty white caps. "He uses the 707 as the family van, the Gulfstream is his sports car."

There's a clip on you tube where Tex Johnston barrel rolls a B707 during a company demo. Brilliant Pilot!!

www.707sim.com/texjohnston.html - 24k

atpcliff
25th Oct 2008, 18:10
Hi!

I flew the KC-135R. In learning to fly the -135, I found out it was the next model in the series after the -707, and if it was a civilian plane, it would've been called the -717. That is why the Boeings went from a -707 to a -727, "skipping" the -717 designation. The "skip" was the -135.

I have been wondering the same thing about ads asking for currency in older jets, such as the -707, -727, DC-10, L-1011, etc.

cliff
KMRC (today, based KYIP)
DC-9 Captain
USA Jet Airlines

Jumbo744
25th Oct 2008, 18:12
oh i would love to fly one of those! used to be a passenger plenty of times when travelling on MEA from Lagos to Beirut in the 90s! Unfortunately by the time I get my ATPL, there will almost be none in service. :{

BelArgUSA
25th Oct 2008, 20:19
Travolta's 707 is a very special one, a 707-138B - real ex-Qantas machine.
These were lighter weight, shorter fuselage 707 rocketship. I flew one once.
Max T/O gross was reduced to 258,000 lbs.
Got the chance to visit "N707JT" in Las Vegas. All I had to show was my 707 rating.
xxx
Last I checked on his FAA ratings, he did not have a 707 rating yet.
I am sure he will get that soon. I saw that he had a CPL Citation rating.
Must be happy that oil barrel is dropping below US$65.oo.
xxx
:ok:
Happy contrails

JanetFlight
25th Oct 2008, 21:41
In USA we have N88ZL still flying...and AFAIK we still have a few "Gods of the Skies" flying around Mighty Africa. Some on a Cargo Basis, some on State Basis...but all of them Beautiful as Hell;)

Metro man
26th Oct 2008, 00:21
I heard about one in Angola a while back, flying arms into dirt strips at night. Must have been an interesting job. ;)

Old Fella
26th Oct 2008, 01:41
Metro Man. Flying a B707 into a dirt strip at night would not only be interesting but also extremely unlikely. A product of a vivid imagination I would say. One thing for sure, If it got on okay it would be most unlikely to ever get airborne again. Those JT3D's just would be four big cleaners sucking up the dirt. Maybe the informant had been on something stronger than Lucky Strike cigarettes!!!

LittleMo
26th Oct 2008, 10:12
Old Fella: it's true, used to hapen in the late 70's/early 80's quite a bit. Don't want tmention names but i'm sure if you ask the ex Rhodesians who used to fly for that mad chap who unfortunately isnt with us anymore (the one who perished in his Spitfire) They'll relate some seriously interesting stories of landing 707's and DC8's in the bush. Interesting times called for some extraordinary flying...

MIDSEVEN
26th Oct 2008, 11:26
The B707 was a frequent nocturnal visitor to Dr Savimbi during the war. The 707 transported diesel into dirt strips at night illuminated by a flarepath. No approach aids. Happened every night for a long time. Africa is not for sissies. Transafrik also operated B727's into dirt strips at night for over 12 years. Garmin GPS letdown to 100'

ferrydude
26th Oct 2008, 15:50
"There are a few flying with JT8D low-noise STC... "


Currently there is only one JT8D powered 707 flying and it is the development aircraft, not being used in revenue service. At 20 million plus per conversion, highly unlikely that there will ever be any JT8D powered 707s in commercial service.

RobinB
27th Oct 2008, 07:10
and of course there is always this one - if you accept the associated risk........

JetPhotos.Net Photo » 9Q-CLK (CN: 17702) Democratic Republic of Congo - Government Boeing 707-138B by Rob Boyes (http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=6055263)

four engine jock
27th Oct 2008, 08:40
The B707 Has to be one of the BEST aircraft ever built.
I flew The 707 for over 18 years straight as an FE. Was a sad day when I stoped flying her.
Would go back to fly her any day.

cochise
27th Oct 2008, 12:24
Sudanese States Aviation operates one or two of them. I'm not sure they're the kind of outfit you would want to work for though.
Was on the ramp in Juba a few weeks ago and one of their new captains from the Congo came over and was asking for any spare charts we had.
Alot of these companies operating the classic jets are struggling to keep up with fuel and maintenance costs. I guess some things take a back burner :eek:

JTrain
27th Oct 2008, 16:36
Hewa Bora in the DRC has at least one B707 freighter.

jt

bond7
28th Oct 2008, 19:26
I would guess maintaining her and the current gas surge, leaves little if any or no margin for keeping her flying!!

metrodriver
30th Oct 2008, 00:08
Government of Mali has a B707-300 TZ-TAC that until recently flew for the government of Togo (5V-TGE)
Beta Cargo and Skymaster in Brazil were still operating 707's in 2006

perceval
30th Oct 2008, 08:07
So nobody has any idea who is offering that job and where it's based then ?? Anyone applied ??

JanetFlight
3rd Nov 2008, 22:27
Hi Perceval...according some sources, wich i cannot guarantee at 100%, the job its for a new Tchad Company named "Mid Express Tchad".
It has already acquired a 707 from Bangladeshi's "South Asian Airlines", ex-S2-ADU, and now as TT-DAX under new Tchadian Jurisdiction, based at NDJ.
Cheers and Keep Smoking the Skies:ok:

C212-100
8th Nov 2008, 18:19
Janet Flight, olá!!

Do linhadafrente para aqui... :) Cumprimentos.

Do you have any inside infoe if they are only taking type-rated guys?

Any chance for a non-type rated to be able to grab a chance on one of the classics (B727, B707 and DC-8)?

Greeetings.

Gonçalo Dias

JanetFlight
8th Nov 2008, 20:27
Boas;)

Im going to check;

Saudações Lusitanas:)

mini
8th Nov 2008, 21:18
There was a 707 on a cargo run out of Addis, if memory serves me right it was to Delhi.
Grotty old ship, can't remember who operated it but it was a regular.

perceval
9th Nov 2008, 12:41
Did apply though Parc but no reply , so I guess they are looking at a TR F/O .

Mobotu
9th Nov 2008, 23:34
BOEING 707 - 63 Remaining

Africa 30 Remaining
African Airlines Int’l (320B) 4
AGL-Air Grand Lucs (320B) 1
Air Memphis (Uganda) (320C) 1
Angola Air Charter (320C) 3
AZZA Transport (320C) 2
Etram Air Wing (320C) 1
Global Airways (320C) 1
Hewa Bora Airways (320C) 3
Interair (320C) 2
Johnsons Air (320C) 1
Libyan Arab Airlines (320B) 1
Libyan Arab Airlines (320C) 3
Sudan Airways (320C) 2
Sudanese States Aviation (320C) 2
Trans Arabian Air Transport (320C) 1
Tristar Air (320C) 1
Wimbi Dira Airways (320C) 1

Asia, Australasia & Mid East 20 Remaining
Dolphin Air (320C) 1
Iran Air (320C) 4
Iraqi Airways (320C) 2
Mahfooz Aviation (320B) 1
Saha Airlines (320C) 4
Sky Aviation FZE (320B) 1
Sky Aviation FZE (320C) 1
South Asian Airlines (320C) 1
TMA (320C) 5

Europe 3 Remaining
Air Charter Express (Belgium) (320C) 2
Romavia (320C) 1

North/South America 10 Remaining
Beta Cargo (320C) 4
LAN Cargo (320C) 1
Skymaster Airlines (320C) 5

So as you see - Africa Win's Again!:eek:

denlopviper
9th Nov 2008, 23:53
we have a 707 parked at OPRN, but belongs to the PAF. last i heard they were looking for a buyer and that it was airworthy.

listen, if you want to buy it, i'll get you a great deal on it BUT on one condition. you hire me to fly it:E

MKA742
16th Nov 2008, 20:35
Thats not right at all! Where did you get that info?

The '707's' in Ostend are actually DC-8-63F's.
A lot of the companies you list aren't operating 707's for a long time, like African or Angola air charter.

If you are interested in a correct and up to date list, visit: Die Boeing 707 in Köln/Bonn (http://www.aviation-friends-cologne.de/html/Boeing707/Boeing707.htm) .

Anyone have pictures of TT-DAX?

Greetz

JanetFlight
16th Nov 2008, 22:11
Here»»»
http://www.skyliner-aviation.de/photos/TTDAX.jpg

Alt »»» http://www.skyliner-aviation.de/photos/TTDAX.jpg

Cheers...JF;)

johnriketes
17th Nov 2008, 03:24
I have 6000 hours plus on B707's. Last flight 10 years ago approx. If anyone looking for a PIC I might consider going back to the old girl, part time/commuting. Age, under 60.

sslut
17th Nov 2008, 15:29
And TZ TAC is on the ramp at Lanseria in all her pride and glory. Strange how many guys are wandering around with that distant look spouting about "them good ol' days" Hope I'm there when she departs - its gonna be one helluva noise as she rotates coming past our hangar.

JanetFlight
17th Nov 2008, 22:41
There is also another recently registrated 707, but this time in Kyrgyzstan Prefix "EX"...The bird its all white at Ras-al-Khaimah, UAE, and it carries the mark EX-120...No one knows the owner nor other details...Weird..:rolleyes:
Any Help, even with the previous Reg...Please:confused:

Contract Dog
18th Nov 2008, 07:34
Hi all, a bit off the topic, but do any of you know where I can get a civi 707 maintained? have tried all the SA AMO's but they all say they have stopped working on the old girls? any ideas?

Dog

johnriketes
18th Nov 2008, 08:17
Have you tried that lot at Southend in the UK?

London Southend Airport - Serving the Thames Gateway - Companies Based at Southend (http://www.southendairport.com/pages/companies.htm)

They used to have approval, so might be worth contacting them.

wilford@global
18th Nov 2008, 10:43
if you still have a licence .then email your CV to [email protected].
we have a great B707 ready to roll.thanks

johnriketes
18th Nov 2008, 11:34
In the post.:ok:

Contract Dog
19th Nov 2008, 06:57
Copied, thanks, have sent a mail, lets see if they can help

Dog

MKA742
19th Nov 2008, 15:04
Thx for the picture!

Wow, what 707 do you have ready to go? VIP?

Grtz

MKA742
19th Nov 2008, 21:44
But I just needed to post this!

We miss u girl! :ugh::{


Photos: Boeing 707-366C Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net (http://www.airliners.net/photo/Air-Memphis/Boeing-707-366C/0731947/L/)

superspotter
21st Nov 2008, 17:46
Hmm.....
The picture of the MID Express Tchad 707 a few posts earlier is not copyrighted to Skyliner because it is mine!!!
I took it 7 days ago in Ndjamena and it can be found on my Flickr page at Flickr: superspotter's Photostream (http://www.Flickr.com/photos/superspotter) ....if you are interested that is!!

maldito
2nd Jan 2009, 23:34
Boas:O

I now the owner of this aircraft its a long story.
I was on this machine a couple years ago

ajet32
3rd Jan 2009, 02:51
Sudanese State Airways had one based in Khartoum, also based and operating from KRT are B707's operated by AZZA and Sudan Airways. The AZZA and Sudan Airways examples were still flying in October 2008. They could be seen hauling freight to Juba and to Nyala and El Fasher in the Darfur region.

There are several still hauling freight in the DRCongo one based in Lubumbashi and several in Kinshasa , Hewa Bora operates the Kinshasa based machine.

johnriketes
3rd Jan 2009, 07:25
CIRCUITB

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