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SW_US
1st Oct 2008, 02:59
Does it happen? What if I'm German. I don't speak German.

AND

I have no JAA certificates, it's all genuine FAA issue.

captain.weird
1st Oct 2008, 07:25
Hello,

No, you won't make a chance to fly for Luffie. Why?
1. You need a JAA (Frozen to) ATPL
2. You have to speak German! But you don't have to be a german..
3. You need Abitur.

stefair
1st Oct 2008, 13:40
Hi,
CW is correct in saying that you would need a JAR license. That being said, however, depending on your level of experience you can convert your FAR license to JAR rather easily. I believe, but do stand to be corrected, that if you have 1500 hours commercial experience it's rather easy. Should you have less you would have to drag yourself through those 14 JAR exams which are a real pain but not as difficult as many think.
You do need to speak German, at least a fair bit, but do not have to be German. All you need is a citizenship that allows you working in the EU and traveling freely.
Now, the last thing, the Abitur. You do not necessarily need exactly that, if you have your US highschool diploma. As far as I am concerned you would have to get this evaluated though by a third party appointed by LH, and although, with all due respect, the US diploma is probably of lower standard than the European education, it is deemed equivalent to the German Abitur. Best thing to do is, should you meet all other requirements, to contact LH Flight Training in Germany. Also, look up their details on Lufthansa Cockpit Careers (http://www.lh-pilot.de). Those folks can tell you exactly what you will need to have but it is also published on the LH website.
Lastly, keep in mind that there are three not-so-easy tests awaiting you conducted by the Deutsches Zentrum fuer Luft- und Raumfahrt in Hamburg, Germany, which you will have to pass. Also, LH runs its own Medical Center and you will have to pass a LH medical, which some say is a bit stricter. Don't know about that. IMO, should you already hold a JAR Class 1, which you will by the time you have a JAR CPL, you shall have no difficulties.
Good luck!

BelArgUSA
1st Oct 2008, 14:15
Let's start with an anecdote...
In the "rest of the world" we call people who speak 2 languages = bilingual...
And those who can sneeze in 3 languages, are trilingual...
The ones who only speak only one are... Americans...
Definition of unilingual interchangeable with... any Anglo-Saxons.
xxx
How in hell can you dream flying for Lufty, without speaking German...?
Or trying to get a job with Air France without French...?
If I had been hired by Japan Airlines, hell, I would have learned Nipponese...
When I was based in Jeddah, I learned 20 insults in Arabic, insh'Allah.
And 50 other insults in Urdu for their Pakistan taxicab drivers - Kuda aafis.
xxx
Little Belgian-born boy here. In other terms, language whore.
I spoke French at home, and at times had to speak Dutch (Flemish) in the streets.
In school, had to learn ze Engliche, yes, und die Deutches sprache, jawohl.
Even had to figure how to sleep during my Latin and Greek classes at school.
And at 49 of age, went to Argentina, and master Castellano (you call that Spanish).
And retiring in Brazil. and now this old fart can bark in somewhat decent Portuguese.
xxx
Here, I read about these wannabees and their pride of a few A and O levels.
Why don't you learn another language besides Shakespeare's...?
I am tired to translate ATC when you guys fly in South America or Africa.
Sorry, but every time I hear international pilots complain of "poor English", this is my opinion.
xxx
:8
Happy contrails

Re-Heat
1st Oct 2008, 14:53
While flightdeck language is English (and indeed in the past a number of BA secondees worked on the 737 for Lufthansa), German is a requiement.

However, Abitur is not a requirement. Abitur equivalents are acceptable, including A-Levels etc.

You will not get anywhere without JAA licences.

pininfarina
21st Nov 2008, 02:29
Let's start with an anecdote...
In the "rest of the world" we call people who speak 2 languages = bilingual...
And those who can sneeze in 3 languages, are trilingual...
The ones who only speak only one are... Americans...
Definition of unilingual interchangeable with... any Anglo-Saxons.
xxx
How in hell can you dream flying for Lufty, without speaking German...?
Or trying to get a job with Air France without French...?
If I had been hired by Japan Airlines, hell, I would have learned Nipponese...
When I was based in Jeddah, I learned 20 insults in Arabic, insh'Allah.
And 50 other insults in Urdu for their Pakistan taxicab drivers - Kuda aafis.
xxx
Little Belgian-born boy here. In other terms, language whore.
I spoke French at home, and at times had to speak Dutch (Flemish) in the streets.
In school, had to learn ze Engliche, yes, und die Deutches sprache, jawohl.
Even had to figure how to sleep during my Latin and Greek classes at school.
And at 49 of age, went to Argentina, and master Castellano (you call that Spanish).
And retiring in Brazil. and now this old fart can bark in somewhat decent Portuguese.
xxx
Here, I read about these wannabees and their pride of a few A and O levels.
Why don't you learn another language besides Shakespeare's...?
I am tired to translate ATC when you guys fly in South America or Africa.
Sorry, but every time I hear international pilots complain of "poor English", this is my opinion.
xxx
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Happy contrails
So, what do you want....a medal?:=


I too am interested in DLH.
However, the process of converting FAA to JAA seems rather complicated..
IF you have an FAA ATP is it still as hard to convert?

-Have JAA license
-Right to work in EU
-College degree


Is that all you need really?
CRJ experience is what I have

SilveR5
21st Nov 2008, 11:00
BelArgUSA (http://www.pprune.org/members/113788-belargusa)

crap talk about languages..that simple!!