HRH PW multitudeinous types

[alwayzinit]

Don't mean to be disrespectful to HRH P W but with a very tight defence budget does this young man have any chance of "flying off" his training costs.
1x Chinook
1x Apache(?)
1x SAR Seaking(?)

Or are the services being used as play ground for HRH?

Alwayz

[Tourist]

Perhaps you might consider the money well spent on educating the future king about his armed forces?

[alwayzinit]

Though I agree that your point is valid to some extent Tourist, the use of three types is excessive.

It has been some time since our Monarch actually led his/her troops into combat.

Surely better to have another 2 helo drivers rather than spending 3 lots on one HRH?(Especially since he is not allowed go anywhere "hot")

Alwayz

[Aeronut]

Alwayzinit - you've lost it mate.

[MarkD]

you didn't mean to be disrespectful but I think you'll find that you were anyway, not least to your fellow prooners who have had to put up with 379 similar threads already (or at least it feels like it)

[RODF3]

I may have missed the point, but what costs. From my understanding he has has had a few famil trips to aquaint him with the types in service. It's no worse then CAS getting trained on the Typoon so that he can say he went solo in it. When is he going to use that operationally?

[airborne_artist]

It's no worse then CAS getting trained on the Typoon so that he can say he went solo in it.

It's far more use to have Prince William learning Service life in a specialist role than checking out CAS on the Typhoon. When he becomes King he'll be the one having weekly meetings with the Prime Minister, and he'll be straight onto anything with a Service issue, and the PM will know that he knows what he is talking about.

It's vital for the future of those who serve in the Armed Forces that the person at the top not only cares, but can speak with authority.

[Airborne Aircrew]

It's vital for the future of those who serve in the Armed Forces that the person at the top not only cares, but can speak with authority.

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

[PICKS135]

At least when HRH comes to power, he will have served in the forces. UNLIKE some recent defence ministers and there cronies:mad::mad::mad:

[dervish]

When he becomes King he'll be the one having weekly meetings with the Prime Minister, and he'll be straight onto anything with a Service issue, and the PM will know that he knows what he is talking about.

It's vital for the future of those who serve in the Armed Forces that the person at the top not only cares, but can speak with authority.



I understand and agree with the sentiment but both the present incumbent and her hubby served during WW2. And she lost an uncle in WW1.

[Hamish 123]

Of course it's a good thing that the first and second currently in line to the throne have both got recent military experience, and clearly champion the armed forces.

However, QEII is surely as staunch a supporter of the services as you could get, and she still couldn't/wouldn't/didn't stop Broon making the one of the great offices of state a job share!

[NutLoose]

Look at it this way,

As the future head of the Armed Services he needs to be multi tasking as by the time these Governments have finished, he may be the only Helicopter Pilot left...:mad:

[rolandpull]

Come on PW, tell them to 'ram-it'!

[NP20]

And she lost an uncle in WW1.

Which side was he on? :}

[GreenKnight121]

Poor Queen Victoria... all that effort making sure all the "Crowned Heads of Europe" were tied together by marriage & thus all part of the same family.

She forgot that fights between family members are often the most vicious of all.

[L J R]

Dear your royal highness - please fly in the military to understand what the military does. Please ignore those on this forum who disagree..

I am not (necessarily) advocating support for the Royals, just stating that I support that if you are royalty, you need to have a grip of reality.

L J R.

[PPRuNeUser0139]

This month's outright winner is L J R for his:

"if you are royalty, you need to have a grip of reality."

[dervish]

Which side was he on?


The Black Watch (Royal Highland Regiment). It was commonly held for many years that Queen Elizabeth (the Queen Mother) was largely responsible for preventing the wholesale and very damaging changes we have seen since her death, that her loss was deeply felt and no Government dare cross her.

[XV277]

When he was still at school, I remember reading an article that PW's preferred career path was to become a pilot..


Now, idle speculation on my part, but following that path as an ab inito entry would have taken a few years until he qualified, meaning his 'work experience' trips round the other services would have been later in his career/life, and may have impinged on his continuation training in the RAF.

Is it beyond the realms of possibility that joining the Army was a trade off - join the Army, do Sandhurst, his specialisation training and serve with his Regiment for a while, do the 'Other Services' experience then, providing he shows the apptitude required, transfer to his chosen path?

Equally, being a SAR pilot means he is out of the way of most of the hostiles. (If you exclude some members of public who think it their right to walk up mountains in jeans and tshirts!!)

[alwayzinit]

Chaps as I have understood it, and I may well be wrong, HRH was training on the Chinook OCU to completion, hence his little drop in jaunt, now it's Apache and then train to be an SAR bod.

Now by anybody's calculation that 3 convertion courses on one lad.

The argument that CAS went solo on a Typhoon so its ok to waste more cash is potty.

I was at Sleaford Tech when HRH PE was being taught to fly at Barkston Heath. Barkston closed to everyone else.

The point about the history lesson is that it was an inappropriate use of funds and assets then as is the "do you like this Helo Sir or do you prefer the ######?"

Yes, emphatically yes to educating a future Head of State in the ways of The Services.

What I am asking is "Is this the best way to do it when we are afterall in a shooting war on 2 fronts?"


Alwayz

[airborne_artist]

HRH was training on the Chinook OCU to completion, hence his little drop in jaunt

So you say Wills completed Chinook OCU - are you sure?

[TOPBUNKER]

Future 'leader' of the country - I think not!
A future tourist attraction maybe - but then again who really wants burger-scoffing Rupert Bear clad spams jamming the pavements of our cities?

If we want to give those who wield the power some military education how about putting PM candidates through selection or P Company? (And no - of course - I haven't done either of said things)

Broon and Prescott doing the fan dance - that's an interesting mental picture!

[knowitall]

"Now by anybody's calculation that 3 convertion courses on one lad."

or more likley just a handfull of famil flights on a lad who will have the ear of the PM of the day, every week for several decades

so basic flying training and 3 ocu's in 6 months?

there's a differance between compressing training and time travel!

[Postman Plod]

Why let facts get in the way of a good shoulder chip?

[ralphmalph]

Oh my god, what a load of rubbish!.

The man is learning to improve his understanding about his future job, not undertaking training specific to being employed in role!.

Be thankful that he is giving the time and space to fully understand our predicament and process!.

ralph

[brakedwell]

William might enjoy being a real pilot so much he hands the Kingship to Harry.

[chinnyrationcarrier]

Come on guys, why do a number of you have such a big chip on your shoulder about His 'Royal' Highness P W wanting to join the 'Royal' Air Force as a SAR pilot? This can only be a good thing; great PR, an operational role for our future leader and a cracking opportunity to give more back to the community.:D
(Broon, you may want to try this some time).

So what if he's been on various types during his military education (tourism according to some). He's put a damn site more interest in the military than the majority of the Government and I for one think it's a great decision by him and hopefully it pays dividends for all of us.

:{ I believe some of you should try drying them.