PDA

View Full Version : Ground XL aircraft where are they all?


wantabe_crew
12th Sep 2008, 22:53
If you have seen any XL aircraft blocked in like that on Sky news at MAN/EGCC let this site know please.

myairways
12th Sep 2008, 23:20
Today as I was on the crew bus for staff west I seen Two 737-900's and a 737-800 sitting on a remote stand with trucks parked behind them. This was at 17.00. Hope this helps.

pavil
12th Sep 2008, 23:23
theres a 73? next to the zoom at GLA blocked in with a snow plow. sad sight to see one airline sitting like that never mind two

Blinkz
13th Sep 2008, 00:09
There a 737 in Dublin but its not blocked in, just parked in a remote stand.

WATABENCH
13th Sep 2008, 01:26
Is there any real reason to block them in? Its not as if they're going anywhere is it? poor sods, it all seems a bit over kill to me, wish all the best to all XL staff across the country.

wantabe_crew
13th Sep 2008, 05:39
Well just think how much in landing fees XL must still owe this would be the reason to ensure the do not go any where!!

billyg
13th Sep 2008, 06:50
Apparently the Canadian registered 738 at Glasgow is no longer impounded as all outstanding debts have been settled.Aircraft will leave for the states today or tomorrow !

HZ123
13th Sep 2008, 06:54
The debt rests with the administators of XL. The aircraft are leased and owned by another company that will not be responsible for XL debts. It is all a little unneccessary but gives a little power to a BAA goon.

MattGarner
13th Sep 2008, 07:38
Has anyone got any pictures of the aircraft grounded with say like a van behind them or something?

Buster the Bear
13th Sep 2008, 08:15
A number of airframes are apparently grounded outside the UK, caught up in the airline's collapse.

OliWW
13th Sep 2008, 08:23
I know theres a aircraft B738 at Lanzarote

There's
EMA - B738
BRS - 2x B738
MAN - B738, 2x B739,
LGW - 3x B738, 2x B767
GLA - B738
DUB - B738
ACE - B738
NCL - B738
LCA - B738

The leased aircraft like the A330 went back to XL France yesterday/today.

Both TOM B767.200's, bmi A321, Titan B752 are out today bringing passengers back according to the CAA, from there destination and passengers might be able to get on flights with FCA, TOM and TCX + low cost airlines

nt639
13th Sep 2008, 08:27
There is a 767 at SFB

jhangiani
13th Sep 2008, 09:51
Why all the interest in gaining pics of grounded aircraft, i mean for F***Sake it's not the first time this has happened and won't be the last, surely individuals wanting pics of aircraft blocked in, obviously have too much time on their hands, unless you are some individual media mogul trying to get a cheap scoop, this is now history, just wait for the next one to go bust, then if you are that good at media detection, in this case not due to the fact you are having to beg for pics of grounded aircraft, you can have a story hot off the press.

And if it is true that BAA blocked in 737 with a snow plough, then i think it is a sad day, as if somebody is gonna come along, get airside without an airside ID, Walk to a remote stand, start the apu, start the engines and taxi out and go for unauthorised take off, I mean come on BAA Overkill, get a grip on reality, bad enough being searched by shopping mall security coming to work, so if BAA is that suspicious of the aircraft being taken, then they should gaurd it 24 hrs a day, then hey presto they might find that nobody will steal or damage it, after all i mean it is parked within a secured area after all.

MattGarner
13th Sep 2008, 10:05
Well I only asked because I never seen it happen before. I wouldn't even contact the media, I'm only 15 <_<

daz211
13th Sep 2008, 10:15
Give the lad a break, as you see he is only 15.
What has it got to do with you anyway.

billyg
13th Sep 2008, 10:30
The Canadian registered 738 which was at GLA has now departed on an SWG callsign .

Chidken Sangwich
13th Sep 2008, 19:27
"The debt rests with the administators of XL. The aircraft are leased and owned by another company that will not be responsible for XL debts. It is all a little unneccessary but gives a little power to a BAA goon."

WRONG! All debts remain with the Aircraft that have incurred them!

Its the same a driving your car through a speed camera, the car registration is sent the fine!

If the owners (lessors) want their Aircraft released from each Airport then its them that have to stump up the cash for any debts.

west lakes
13th Sep 2008, 19:38
Is there any real reason to block them in?

Just speculating, but is possible it is a legal requirement from some age old law that is still on the UK statute books, which could explain why the one at Dublin is simply parked remotely.

kevincoy
13th Sep 2008, 19:39
With the situation of impounded aircraft across the country, and indeed in other parts of the world, it really does highlight how risky the aircraft leasing business is, especially due to the fact that as mentioned above, that all debts raised by an aircraft, remain with the aircraft.

I can't imagine that there are only a few fuel bills and a couple of landing fee's outstanding on these aircraft, I'd think it's safe to assume that most probably a quarter's worth of debt are outstanding on each machine.

I saw an aircraft (B767) impounded at Birmingham Airport on a remote stand with a snow plough parked behind it in 2005. I believe that it was a shoddy airline setup that sold seats to India but never actually carried out a flight. Others suggest is was on lease to FlyWho which folded, but I never confirmed it.

In response to MattGarner's request, I believe that the Press Association (www.pa.press.net (http://www.pa.press.net)) have some images. A polite email to them may yield some results for you.

Cheers
Kev

BelArgUSA
13th Sep 2008, 20:04
You better "block" these airplanes wherever parked...
Chains and padlocks -
Some have a tendency to "disappear", suddenly.
Do you remember the 727 in Luanda...?
One guy ("solo qualified") was required to fly the "3-crew" airplane.
Ramp pass not needed - A "baksheesh" will do... Obrigado.
xxx
:ooh:
Happy contrails

jethro15
13th Sep 2008, 20:14
For those interested, I've just updated the current XL fleet status/locations.

XL UK (http://jethros.eu/fleets/fleet_listings/xl_uk.htm)

Jethro
UK and Ireland Airline Fleet Listings
jethro's UK and Ireland Airline Fleet Listings (http://www.jethros.eu)

jhangiani
13th Sep 2008, 20:17
Apologies m.garner but the media have been trying a number of underhanded tricks to get info, and as such joining sites such as this and airmech to gain info on such a sad occassion,which turns a sad event into a mockery, the 1700 people that lost their jobs yesterday through no fault of their own just would like the dust to settle so they can move on, these people have lost their jobs in a time of great financial stress and as a result some may become homeless, marriages may breakdown, constant reminders only make people uneasy this is from my own personnal experience in the past, the media do have a job to do which is to report what is going on, but there are means and professional ways of going about their business through the right authoritive channels.

But too quench your curosity i am sure some pics will be posted on the net soon, but believe me your not missing much all you will see is either 73 or 76 with a vehicle parked at the rear end, nothing too exciting :)

NutLoose
13th Sep 2008, 21:12
As said above Matt... OK COPYRIGHT ON THESE IMAGES REMAINS MINE.... That means especially you The Sun.....

These are for you Matt, and not to be transmitted or sold by anyone to anyone without my permission......... ( had it before with pics I posted on here appearing in the SUN.)

Possibly one of its last flights as taken the day before the termination of services.....


http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff321/taylortony/Lastday.jpg

And parked up at East Midlands on the wash bay, a sad sight......

http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff321/taylortony/XL.jpg

Sad to see and my thoughts are with all the guys and gals from XL....... you offered a crackingly good service......... so hold your heads high and remember that........

NutLoose
13th Sep 2008, 21:15
[John R (http://www.pprune.org/members/197899-john-r)

Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Oxford
Posts: 53


So what does happen to the aircraft that are stranded in say Dinard, Sanford etc.?

Do they just sit there until they are bought by someone else? Pure curiosity.



A lot will be owned via leasing or financing companies so when things are settled such as parking etc they will be returned to these companies and moved on to other companies or stored......

H Ferguson
13th Sep 2008, 22:24
Jethro,

C-FTAE B738 left Dublin last night, 12/9, heading for Bangor , Maine as SWG9001.

Tony

hostiegirl
14th Sep 2008, 00:10
The Ema a/c is going to Istanbul to it's new owner not sure if went today or tomorrow :(

VAFFPAX
14th Sep 2008, 06:52
All four XL a/c at LGW were parked at remote stands (where Air Namibia usually parks), two had baggage carts parked behind them, the other two were clear. This was on Friday. I didn't get to check regs.

S.

colinhunn
14th Sep 2008, 08:54
The NCL aircraft is flightplanned to Lasham today

househunter
14th Sep 2008, 18:04
why would the aircraft go to lasham?

Gulf4uk
14th Sep 2008, 18:15
its a Maint Base for many companys GOOGLE for there Website ATC LASHAM
Loads of Information .

Up to 1913 It is a no Show as far as can Tell

Tony
farnborough

mary_hinge
14th Sep 2008, 18:15
why would the aircraft go to lasham?

A lot of parking space cheaper than most airports, where the aircraft can be put into storage or under care and maintenance.

When the aircraft is placed with another airline, ATC Lasham, a maintenance company based there and at Southend, working with the leasing companies, will re-brand the aircraft into the next operator.

WATABENCH
14th Sep 2008, 18:31
I heard the EMA aircraft was off to Istanbul??

BRS have blocked in their aircraft with tractors....:rolleyes:

Gulf4uk
14th Sep 2008, 18:34
Might seem over the top to some but blocking them in stops them
being moved to another part of field where possibly someone
else makes a claim on them for moneys owed

EGNT
14th Sep 2008, 18:34
Well the NCL a/c was still parked remote @ 19:00, blocked in by a large truck.

Gulf4uk
14th Sep 2008, 18:39
Thanks that seems not Lasham bound this Eve still listed as

Sunwing Airlines Flight 9005 to , (EGHL)

Airline Sunwing Airlines
Flight Number 9005 (SWG)
Departure City (Airport) Newcastle, England, Great Britain (EGNT)
Departure Time 09/14/2008 03:10 PM
Arrival (Airport) , LASHAM (EGHL) (planned)

Trident man
14th Sep 2008, 21:00
Here is a pic of one of the three aircraft impounded at MAN on the friday morning........................copyright is mine and the pic cannot be used for publication without my written consent.
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q193/Neil2312/IMG_3418-2.jpg

Bushfiva
15th Sep 2008, 00:57
TM, why don't you add copyright info to the EXIF and/or (better) IPTC fields? With the latter, it should show up in whatever software the newspaper uses for handling its images.

azazael
15th Sep 2008, 04:44
The XL in Dublin is gone ,fees paid by owner apparently.:mad:

tubby linton
15th Sep 2008, 08:33
trident man how did you get the copyright onto your image?

AviationNE
15th Sep 2008, 11:01
Sunwings crew arrived yesterday to try and take the aircraft but were told by the airport it would not be released. As far as aware left the airport to try another day.

VAFFPAX
15th Sep 2008, 13:48
There are now five XL a/c at LGW. Four (the smaller a/c) have been blocked in, the fifth (on stand 155) is not.

This is the status as of 13:25 BST (when I returned from BLQ).

S.

SCANDIC
15th Sep 2008, 19:07
Does anyone know where the 767s will go to, will G-BOPB go on its lease to air india like it was supposed to do, i hope that they are seen flying again at some stage over here. I flew on xl in june and they didn't seem to badder airline but you never know whats round the corner. Who do you think will go under next?

Gulf4uk
15th Sep 2008, 19:17
noted on ONLINE MODE S site and on Acars


G-XLAD 2008-09-15 12:48:59.103 B737-81Q United Kingdom XL Airways EDDS1, DE

=====================FROM ? TO ?
G-XLAD 20080915 1130 JN0000 (B737 XLA) (Various routes \schld\charter)
=====================


Anyone update who OPS this now ?

Rainboe
15th Sep 2008, 21:05
Who do you think will go under next?
someone who calls himself 'Scandick' on Pprune.......hopefully under deep water!

Fun, isn't it? Trying to guess which airline runs out of cash first! Twerp. It's quite possible also drowning themselves will be your old grammar teacher, if you ever went to school. Have you read your post?

Gulf4uk
15th Sep 2008, 21:36
This is a spotters page and some of us do want to see where the fleet end up
but lets not loose sight of the fact thousands of people lost there holidays
and STAFF there Jobs . Many Spotters have travelled on Airlines that have
Since been Lost and XL was in my opinion one the best . WE Do not want
any more closures but it might Happen . So lets keep this thread simply
about where the Fleet End up and no more of "WHO IS NEXT " it might BE YOU
To all the XL STAFF I wish you all the very best and thanks for a good
Service

Tony
farnborough

smith
15th Sep 2008, 21:41
Can you really see any professional pilot getting on an imponded plane and trying to taxi and take off without clearances, even getting it tugged to another part of the airport requires clearance and I am sure the tug operator would not want to get involved in anything like this either. Just seems a bit overkill to me.

There has been an A320 impounded at Glasgow for ages.

Was there not an incident of an aircraft landing at Prestwick at night with no clearance and no runway lights a while ago?

jhangiani
15th Sep 2008, 21:45
Could not have put it better myself Gulf4uk well put sir, well put:D

Gulf4uk
15th Sep 2008, 21:46
Dont think its anyone trying to fly one out there concerned about its
more likely if the Aircraft was movable and towed to another area
Someone owed money might lay claim to it and further problems might
Arise . Surely there is no Aircrew who would risk there LIVES and others
trying to remove an aircraft without lights , fire cover etc its just to
Silly an idea to suggest ,

Gulf4uk
16th Sep 2008, 11:16
HI

C-GOAF G-XLAF Has departed NCL inbound to QLA (Lasham)


Tony
farnborough

Gulf4uk
16th Sep 2008, 14:08
hi

Just shows what you can do one of my friends given the heads up
at Lasham took this YouTube - C-GOAF Boeing 737 @ Lasham (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=4eDQIv9869c)

Skipness One Echo
16th Sep 2008, 16:00
Spotters Anorak firmly on :

Stored at

G-XLAK
G-XLAP MANCHESTER
G-XLAR MANCHESTER
G-XLFR

Anyone fill in the gaps?

Viscount812
16th Sep 2008, 16:04
I understand from the British Consulate staff at Sanford on Saturday, that the XL 767/2 stuck there was actually taxiing out when the news of XL's failure broke on Friday 12th September. The aircraft was immediately surrounded by Police vehicles and escorted back to the stand and passengers dis-embarked.

We were among the lucky ones. We flew home to LGW the following day (Saturday) on Luz Air's L1011 Tristar 500 operating a repatriation flight on behalf of Monarch. To say the flight (and the aircraft!) was "basic" is an understatement, but we were all glad to be on board and heading home.

Gulf4uk
16th Sep 2008, 16:12
HI

JETHRO www site

G-XLFR Re-regd FHDXL 12 Sep 08 and rtnd to XL France

G-XLAK Parked EGKK (London Gatwick)

tony

to flamin warm for Anorak at moment (Farnbororough)

opsjockey
16th Sep 2008, 16:18
G-XLAK will be leaving LGW on Friday for lasham...

OliWW
16th Sep 2008, 19:11
G-XLAD departed EMA yesterday to go to Lasham... flight number was something like JN010P

Gulf4uk
16th Sep 2008, 19:27
G-XLAD Deff not at Lasham as far as am aware last noted 15.09.2008 1348 Z somwhere over Germany ?

Gulf4uk
16th Sep 2008, 19:45
HI

G-XLAG GATWICK TO LASHAM this eve 2050

a bit later G-XLAO 2105 ARRIVED

mary_hinge
16th Sep 2008, 20:29
How many have they got parked at Lasham? Have they shifted some of the others that have been stuck there for most of the year.:(

READY MESSAGE
16th Sep 2008, 21:03
Just wondered who is flying all these aircraft around? XL France/Germany crews? Contractors? CAA pilots?

Just curious......

jethro15
16th Sep 2008, 21:32
Fleet status/location updated to this evening 16 Sep. Note the change of ownership yesterday 15 Sep for G-XLAG / N / O / P / R (Celestial Aviation Trading Ltd, Shannon)

XL UK Current Fleet Status (http://jethros.eu/fleets/fleet_listings/xl_uk.htm)

jethro
UK and Ireland Airline Fleet Listings
www.jethros.eu (http://www.jethros.eu)

Lashamcat
16th Sep 2008, 23:00
G-XLAC, G-XLAK, G-XLAN, G-XLAP and G-XLAR all expected within the next two or three days.

Currently on site at Lasham:-

G-LSAB, 5N-BLC (ex VP-BSV), LN-KKI and G-BMRA all hangared
5N-BKQ, 5N-BKR, 5N-BLD, VP-BSQ, VP-BTG and VP-BTI
VP-BAA and VP-BAJ
C-GOAF, G-XLAG and G-XLAO
LN-KKF
EC-JQX
Not to mention A300 D-AIAI and the two derelict B727s OO-DHN and OO-DHR

vespasia
17th Sep 2008, 04:21
Can you really see any professional pilot getting on an imponded plane and trying to taxi and take off without clearances, even getting it tugged to another part of the airport requires clearance and I am sure the tug operator would not want to get involved in anything like this either. Just seems a bit overkill to me.

You'd think, wouldn't you - but it's happened before and it WILL happen again, which is why they get blocked in!

1station
17th Sep 2008, 18:19
Looks like the 73's are on the move at Manchester. Flight deck occupied on stand 249 at approx 1800. Not sure who will handle the flights, certainly not Servisair I expect!!

opsjockey
17th Sep 2008, 18:25
Why not servisair? Our company has been contracted to move a few of the XL a/c, handling is with our preferred handling agent.. in some places this is servisair... if the company moving the MAN based unit have servisair as their contracted agent, it'll be on their own account and re-charged to whoever asked them to the to move the a/c...

Gulf4uk
17th Sep 2008, 18:35
we heard that 3 Aircraft were coming Early this Eve but all appears to have
been cancelled for Thursday

Trident man
17th Sep 2008, 18:56
The three aircraft at MAN will depart tomorrw,two will fly down to Lasham at 10am and one will depart for Canada at 1pm.Info v reliable.:ok:

NutLoose
17th Sep 2008, 21:15
I took some pics of the XL one departing East Mids and the obvious final calls to sort everything out whilst the crew sat awaiting the go.....

If any XL Crews want pics of it finally taxying out, PM me and I will gladly makes them available to you.

Tubby linton you use something like photoshop open another layer then type over the image on that layer and merge them by simply saving it as an image. I have on this one, but have reduced its opacity down so it is visible but does not distract from the picture.. As said, copyright remains mine.

http://www.skonk.net/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=130&g2_serialNumber=1

Gulf4uk
18th Sep 2008, 09:38
next lot on way

G-XLAN INBOUND Lasham eta 1045 ish EGGD-EGHL

TONY
Farnborough

Gulf4uk
18th Sep 2008, 09:49
G-XLAR To QLA 1100 eta (LOCAL) Presume EGCC-EGHL

Tony

salope
18th Sep 2008, 09:59
On this subject, I was intrigued by the aircraft prevented from leaving Sandford.
The Sunday Times has a story that the info leaked out from the crew to the groundstaff, who had the aircraft stopped as XL owed money to the airport.

But my understanding is that few places other than the UK have the legal ability to do this
So was the US distraint legal ?

Pity the crew could not have ignored the requests and continued with the flight.....didnt something like this happen with a Court Line aircraft which managed to escape from Newfoundland the day the company went down ?

Whitehatter
18th Sep 2008, 10:05
I think you will find that the 'blocking in' is more symbolic than anything. Immobilising the asset for legal purposes as aircraft are considered to be mobile assets and there are also obviously laws concerning interference with a moving aircraft.

That's an interesting point for debate. If an airline was to obtain clearances from air traffic control and begin to move an aircraft, could a third party or the airport operator lawfully stop the plane taking off? There are some bits and pieces of aviation law in there which could be open to interpretation.

Gulf4uk
18th Sep 2008, 10:19
G-XLAP EGCC -EGHL Next to land

Tony

Skipness One Echo
18th Sep 2008, 16:28
Guys is it possible to get some photos at Lasham without trespassing or getting in someone's way? Quite a sad sight but one worthy of recording I feel. Anyone give me a heads up? Thanks

Gulf4uk
18th Sep 2008, 16:51
have asked the locals to pop over here and give Information on viewing

Tony

Buster the Bear
18th Sep 2008, 18:12
I cannot remember the name of the road, but it links the road out of Alton up to Odiham and the road out of Alton to Basingstoke. I think it might be called The Avenue.

Anyway, if you are coming via the M3 Jct 5 follow the signs for North Warnborough then Alton. You pass Odiham and about 4 miles later there is a pub on your left called the Golden Pot. Turn right here into The Avenue, drive along for a couple of miles and you will pass the rotting aircraft museum, then you can turn into the gliding club about 1/2mile further on your left. Visitors are welcome inc restaurant and bar. There is a superb viewing area with ATC off to your right.

Come back out and turn left, follow this for 1/2 mile and just before the A339 turn left into a narrow lane with a sign ATC. Drive to the top, but don't stay too long especially if there are movements as you will be moved on. There is a No Parking bay here, you can get good shots, but you are facing South. Step ladder might help?

Drive back out of this lane, at the bottom turn left, then left again toward Alton. Drive around 1.5 miles and there is a sign on your left to the Golden Oak, this is a pub in the village of Lasham. If you drive past the pub keeping it on your right, this will take you toward an access gate.

My advice is to leave your car and walk up. From here you will see those airframes on the South side of the hangar complex.

Some of the XL and the A300 will not be good for photography and as I am a domesticated bear, I seldom head off into woods with a compass. Some might know of country paths which afford views of the Airbus and the 727 wrecks?

I am told that a 5th XL will arrive sometime tomorrow.

YouTube - A Busy Lasham (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=PonRBd6-ThE)

Buster the Bear
18th Sep 2008, 18:52
I should have said, the Royal Oak in Lasham!

For your Sat Nav:


Gliding club; GU34 5SS


Golden Pot; GU34 4DJ Maps of the world, street map search - powered by Multimap (http://www.multimap.com/maps/?zoom=14&title=The%20Golden%20Pot&countryCode=GB&qs=GU344DJ)


Royal Oak GU34 5SJ Maps of the world, street map search - powered by Multimap (http://www.multimap.com/maps/?zoom=15&title=Royal%20Oak&countryCode=GB&qs=gu345sj)

Toodle
18th Sep 2008, 19:36
Drive to the top, but don't stay too long especially if there are movements as you will be moved on. There is a No Parking bay here

Are you really advocating that the hoards of spotters that will descend on Lasham park in a "no parking Bay" :ugh::=

may I refer you to this thread http://www.pprune.org/spectators-balcony-spotters-corner/343492-spotting-general-courtesy.html

Gulf4uk
18th Sep 2008, 19:45
hi

It has Happened in the past and some problems have occurred . We Have Good Relations with the Airfield ATC and GLIDERS we want it to Stay that way
The problems mentioned Elsewhere on that link Do occur from time to time
and thankfully there a minority of Idiots you get those in Every Hobby
Please and Thanks go a long Way so does considerate Parking . not climbing over Fences and Gates . Not much to ask is it but for some its Abused

Tony
farnborough

Toodle
18th Sep 2008, 19:53
well it only takes one "idiot" as you call them to park in the "no parking" bay at the wrong time to ruin it for all the others who obey the rules!! :mad:

grob103
18th Sep 2008, 20:23
I'm a gliding club member at Lasham, and it's certainly been interesting today with what I think may be a record number of jet movements.

Spotters are welcome in the clubhouse area, ie the fenced-in area on the north side, accessed from The Avenue, and clearly signposted with a brown "Lasham Gliding Society" sign.

Car parking for the public is on the left before the barrier.

Spotters are allowed outside of the fenced area if accompanied by a club member, and a tannoy from the office requesting an escort for group of "aircraft enthusiasts" is not unheard of.

Might be appreciated if you were to buy a cup of tea/biscuit/Mars bar while you're there. Speaking personally, I'd be interested if anyone happens to be regularly taking photos of the gliders; I'd love a photo of me taking off or landing.

ATC Lasham are a bit more protective of their aircraft, I wouldn't imagine they'd have a lot of tolerance for members of the public wandering around their bits.

Cheers,

grob103 (who doesn't fly a Grob 103 any more)

Buster the Bear
18th Sep 2008, 21:43
No parking bay, well it is the 'public' side of the barrier and I have stopped there many a time.

I would suggest that this road is public up to the barrier. I was politely asked to move my car, this is the first time ever that this had occurred and of course I did without hesitation.

Toodle my old chum, get a life! My video of the C-GOAF was done with a Police car sat behind me in 'the No Parking bay'. A brief explanation of who I was, what I was doing and why completely satisfied the two coppers on duty. I moved my car down the hill and everyone was totally happy.

I doubt very much if hoards of spotters will descend upon the no parking bay and if they do I am sure most will be completely sensible, unless Toodle you think that most aviation enthusiasts are ******'s?

Here is a bit of advice, if the rotating high resolution beacon is rotating over at ATC, this means that there is a movement imminent, so driving up this lane should be discouraged. You can easily see this beacon from the gliding club.

If you also read my advice about the Royal Oak, you would then understand that I am only advocating viewing aircraft at Lasham sensibly!

Anyway, what do I know about the safe operation of airports and the benefits of allowing the public some access to view aviation? (if you only knew)!

In my view, Lasham Gliding Club have just about got the balance 100% correct (as owners of this airfield).

Toodle, enjoy the traffic jams and be kind to the majority of idiot aviation enthusiasts popping into Lasham to witness the demise of yet another giant in UK aviation, but DON'T PARK IN THE 'NO PARKING' BAY! I will up there flogging sarnies and squash!

Toodle
18th Sep 2008, 21:48
Having taken the time to read through the whole post it seems Buster, who suggested parking in a "no parking bay" at Lasham is a friend of Gulf4uk!!

Gulf4uk wrote
hi

Just shows what you can do one of my friends given the heads up
at Lasham took this YouTube - C-GOAF Boeing 737 @ Lasham (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=4eDQIv9869c)


Perhaps Gulf4uk the next time you meet Buster (your friend) you could educate him in the etiquette of spotting within the law! :rolleyes:

P.S. Would love to be a fly on the wall when Gulf is trying to explain to Buster why he called him an idiot :)

Toodle
18th Sep 2008, 22:46
Well Buster I seem to have hit on a raw nerve here!! so many things to reply to in your last post but I will limit myself to just the three...

Toodle my old chum, get a life! My video of the C-GOAF was done with a Police car sat behind me in 'the No Parking bay'. A brief explanation of who I was, what I was doing and why completely satisfied the two coppers on duty. I moved my car down the hill and everyone was totally happy.


why do you think you had to move before everybody was totally happy? would it be something to do with the fact that you were parked in a "no parking" bay per chance!

Here is a bit of advice, if the rotating high resolution beacon is rotating over at ATC, this means that there is a movement imminent, so driving up this lane should be discouraged. You can easily see this beacon from the gliding club.

perhaps you should be taking your own advice then!

Anyway, what do I know about the safe operation of airports and the benefits of allowing the public some access to view aviation? (if you only knew)!

Dunno, please enlighten us, the one thing we can take from your diatribe is that you have no understanding of rules on the public highway or the law!

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Gulf4uk
19th Sep 2008, 08:10
hi

What in said is my opinion what others do is there problem But they should
remember it could cause problems for others.
What does annoy me is the Sarcastic comments on these forums .

We have had problems at Lasham . FARNBOROUGH and other places people parking in wrong places blocking Fire gates LITTER Damage to fences etc
We can remind people not to do it but its down to them in the end yes
these people should no better it amazes me that people still do it . I get
enough problems parking everyday even when my vehicle has the correct
Disabled badge on it I rarely can get a bay I Can park LEGALLY in no parking areas but I dont do it EVER . But when anyone complains you get Abuse and
Sarcastic comments. All I say is please dont make Waves for others

Tony

Toodle
19th Sep 2008, 11:10
Well said Tony, I agree whole hartedly with what you say... and yes Busters last post was somewhat sacrastic! still never mind thats just Buster I suppose! what he doesn't seem to understand, perhaps he's just naive or perhaps its just stupidity, is that by saying that its ok to park in bay marked "No Parking" to a Forum with over 257,000 members is just asking for trouble. Perhaps when the barrier is moved down to the bottom of this lane will be the day that he will rue ever advising it!!

sunnybunny
19th Sep 2008, 11:37
Question for Lasham locals. Looking at Lasham airfield on Google maps there appears to be hangers towards the SW corner. Presumably these are the maintenance facility. In front of one is a 4 engined jet aircraft, which would appear to be too large to fit past buildings by the tarmac.

Has it been there a long time or does it fit?

Visual06
19th Sep 2008, 12:01
Hi Sunnybunny,
Looks like an MK Cargo DC-8, its no longer there, an aerial photo of Lasham taken last Friday can be found here S.E. Aviation Photos - Lasham (http://eglffarnborough.proboards51.com/index.cgi?board=lasham)

Gulf4uk
19th Sep 2008, 12:55
HI

Another new Arrival this time ZOOM C-GTSN arrived 1300 from Glasgow

G-XLAK should be at QLA sometime today

1station
19th Sep 2008, 18:51
Has anyone got or can direct me to a link of any pictures of the invasion of Lasham????

Gulf4uk
19th Sep 2008, 18:54
will pm you as would be wrong to post link here

Tony

GLOBESPANER
19th Sep 2008, 20:39
I work fot GSM and when Zoom first went down, our AC took a 14 min DLA as GLA airfiekd ops hadnt parked the snow plow right and they had to move it so we could push back!!

Globespaner

househunter
24th Sep 2008, 13:49
Is there still a 767 in Sanford?

Gulf4uk
24th Sep 2008, 13:56
hi

Three listed That i know of as

C-GZNC KATL 16th sept 2008

C-GTDX KMIA 19th sept 2008


C-GTSN EGHL(QLA) 19TH Sept 2008

amanoffewwords
24th Sep 2008, 14:28
Has anyone got or can direct me to a link of any pictures of the invasion of Lasham????

a.net has something - not sure how recent it his though

Photos: - Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net (http://www.airliners.net/photo/-/-/1401322/M/)

Gulf4uk
24th Sep 2008, 14:33
hi

anyone who wants to see recent pictures at lasham please PM Me
i will supply a link .

Tony

mutt
24th Sep 2008, 19:11
New A330 sitting outside the Airbus hangar in Toulouse minus engines and another one inside the production area....

Mutt

Rampvan
25th Sep 2008, 22:28
there are some taken on Thursday the 25/9 here S.E. Aviation Photos - 25 sept 08 XL Zoom (http://eglffarnborough.proboards51.com/index.cgi?board=lasham&action=display&thread=513)