Pilots on PPRuNe

[Lossie23]

Hi all,

I think it would be good if there was some way of identifying who on here is actually a pilot, I suggest in the box with a person's user name. I log on to PPRuNe to see the views of pilots as I want to read informed comment on subjects. Increasingly it seems that there is a lot of rubbish talked on here by people who obviously haven't got a clue and are not pilots. I don't mind non-pilots posting (indeed I am not a pilot), but when looking through 4 pages of comments if there was some way of knowing who is actually a pilot then it would be easier to see who is worth reading. I know a lot of very knowledgeable people in aviation that are not pilots, but I can read their thoughts on a lot of other forums. On here I'm interested in pilots views. All it would need would be a * or sign against a user name for example. I know this relies on people being honest and some people will lie, but the majority will be honest. As I said I'm not a pilot, have never wanted to be a pilot but still love aviation. Comments welcome and moderators over to you. Before the mud flies I will be up front, yes I am an aviation journalist, but the above is not for work purposes. I was into aviation long before being paid for it and I am just interested to hear informed opinion from a purely personal interest point of view.

Cheers

Dino

[scarecrow450]

There's a lot of pilots who have not got a clue ! :mad:

[Arm out the window]

I think a digital photo of our watches, signed and verified by a JP, should do the trick.

[Alber Ratman]

Are you in the military? That's a starter for this section, one is led to believe?

(I'm going to upset somebody!:E)

[Jackonicko]

Dino, mate.

It's obvious who is, and who isn't. Lurk awhile and you'll soon pick it up.

[OmegaV6]

Someone else who thinks the two-winged master race know all the answers .... :)

He'll learn .......

[alwayslookingup]

Jackonicko said:-

"Dino, mate.

It's obvious who is, and who isn't."


True. As well as who was, and who wasn't, and who'd like to be, and who'll never be, and who wishes they could be but can't, or could have been but couldn't, and who's bitter because they'll never be. It takes all sorts. Me, I'm none of the above, but it's generally a good forum with occasionally some cracking threads. I'm with Jacko on the above, it doesn't take long to spot the genuine from the fakers or wannabes. Therefore I'm not sure if we'd need any identifier.

Pip pip. Eight hours till I'll be at Leuchars. Good luck if you're involved in any way.

ALU.

[davejb]

Military aircrew....and the backroom boys and girls....

I guess this would require some sort of extra symbology to allow the presumably worthless views of non-pilot aircrew and the Ops staff to be rapidly filtered out.

Whereabouts in the forum description does it mention journalists? I must have missed that bit...

[neilmac]

Eh Why??

I am a civvy pilot but primarly RAF ground peeps.................

What a rubbish statement

NM

[Dan D'air]

What about ex-Mil aircrew who come on here for the banter??

[PPRuNe Pop]

I just love this! It about sums up the whole of PPRuNe.

It's obvious who is, and who isn't."

True. As well as who was, and who wasn't, and who'd like to be, and who'll never be, and who wishes they could be but can't, or could have been but couldn't, and who's bitter because they'll never be.

Dino, I think you will soon realise that you DO need to be around a bit before you can sort everyone out - even then you probably never will.

But hey, your'e the journalist. ;)

[Whirlygig]

Lossie, the facility already exists within profiles. If Ppruners choose not to fill in their details, that's up to them!

If you want to know whether an opinion has been made by a pilot and therefore rendered valid, firstly look at their profile and then read a few of their previous posts.

Cheers

Whirls

[Lossie23]

My apologies to WSOs and other non-pilot aircrew everywhere, when writing my post I was thinking one dimensionally (and that will never do) as it is the P Pilots RuNE. It was near 12pm and I was tired - that's my excuse anyway! Backseaters and other aircrew are just as important as pilots. Personally, I'm interested in anyone's informed comment (as I said on the opening post) and I do appreciate how important a job the Ops and other ground crew guys and girls do.
By the way with regard to the comment about a journo being on here I would be perfectly happy to be denied permission to join PPrune and thus not to be able to post messages as indeed I'm not a pilot. It would be nice to be able to view the forum however as I do find it enjoyable. But I couldn't grumble even if this was not allowed as afterall as I said I'm not a pilot so if the forum mods want to do that would be understandable as that is what this forum was set up for.

[Lossie23]

Whirls - thanks for the tip.

PPrune Mod - yes your right I should be able to spot people. I was just thinking last night as I was scrolling through page after page of comments on a thread it would be quicker to be able to see who is in the trade, as it were, if I just wanted to read their views.

[dallas]

I guess this would require some sort of extra symbology to allow the presumably worthless views of non-pilot aircrew and the Ops staff to be rapidly filtered out.
Why not use existing symbology - rank badges? C'mon, we all love having our rank badge talked to, don't we?

Perhaps we could also have some sort of filter facility where you could filter out comments made by people of insufficient rank - call it the Your Ideas Don't Matter button? The programmers shouldn't have too much trouble making it work, as there are working models up and down the RAF that they can copy.

The naughty enlisted people could then hack into the button and create their own: Visiting Air Rank Button, which would filter out everyone above or below Sgt, depending on your career interest level.

In the mean time Boscombe could be commissioned to adapt the filter for use by the air ranks, allowing them to post without having to read anyone elses thoughts, because they just know how it is. I thought the Train to Glasgow button was a good working title.

[Pontius Navigator]

Mmm, I wonder?

[c130jbloke]

Personally, I'm interested in anyone's informed comment


Just stick to the banter - its a lot safer. If somebody called minigundiplomat comes up on freq, he may tell you all about AFG:uhoh:. And if another user called AIDU comes up then be afraid, be very afraid...


C130JB:8

[Mr C Hinecap]

Increasingly it seems that there is a lot of rubbish talked on here by people who obviously haven't got a clue

Woah there fella. You need to hang around here a bit longer. We've been talking utter bolleaux here for a very long time. BTW - we keep the aircrew in a bubble so the difficult stuff can get done quicker :E

[Pontius Navigator]

Then of course there are the crapulous ones that use confusing nicknames, I mean, Lossie from Peterborough. I ask you.

[bythebackdoor]

phew!!! I don't fall into any of those groups.
so I guess I'm safe to keep posting.:ok:

[Tourist]

1.4G well said
:D

[Ayla]

1.4g. Surely Chinook Crewman are serving aircrew!

[goudie]

1.4 G

When did you first experience your inferiority complex?

[Double Zero]

Well I'm not a pilot and not strictly military - just been involved with British ( & export ) flight testing airframes & weapons / fuel tanks, guidance systems etc; shall I clear off then ?

Watch out for PIL lasers, the next big threat I feel for all types - military & civil -with wings !

Then I dunno nothing, not a pilot, just had to recover to base when el glamourous piloto ( civil ) conked out on me, and spotted a few potentially nasty snags when with military Test Pilots...Anyone however skilled can miss the simplest thing on a bad day, and maybe even prats like me can be useful sometimes - I'd be happy to have a 'not a pilot but a bit involved' symbol.

DZ

[glad rag]

Surprising that no one's said "I'm Sparticus" yet.:}

[RODF3]

L23

what a c**p idea. Just because you are a pilot does not always make your opinion worth more than anyone else, or mean you are better informed.

I are one anyway!

[Union Jack]

It was near 12pm and I was tired - that's my excuse anyway!

I truly sympathise Dino - I often feel like that just before lunch!:)

Jack

PS And even more so after lunch ....

[BEagle]

1.4G, you forgot:


Arses who insist on calling the F35 'Dave'.
Anyone who uses the word 'plane' instead of 'aircraft' or 'aeroplane'
Those who think wearing sand coloured clothing makes them into SAS warriors
Technogeeks who know all about the latest arms salesmens' glossy lies
Apostrophe abusers
Those who cannot master a shift key
Etc etc!!


Oh and glad rag, it's 'Spartacus', incidentally - and I am not he!

[charliegolf]

You see the predominate people who post on here are

.... and a sprinkling of tw@ts like 1.4g.

CG

[sisemen]

Hmm.... as an ex-sqn ldr scribbly and now a pilot (albeit in the civvy world) I guess I'll have to create my very own forum so that I can talk to myself without upsetting the likes of Lossie.

[US Herk]

Why yes, I am a zipper-suited sun god - he of the 3-foot zipper! I am perfect & never make any mistakes either. :}

YouTube - I'm a Pilot (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYLPoTNnKAk)

Need I say more? :E

[davejb]

That's the idea Dallas, but couldn't we take the button idea further? Everyone has their picture taken in their piggy jim jams, and the button is made from the photo...

...that way everyone would know to pay attention to the chap in the snug fitting wyncyette rompers in a tasteful shade of green with extra wide wings (for night time comfort), whilst pouring scorn on those who wear plain old groundcrew light blue ones.

Extra attention could be paid to those with excessive amounts of gold braid on the arms, chocolate medals on the chest, and asbestos seat.

I'd also appreciate a termination (as noted in another post) of the use of Dave/DaveB for the new aircraft, as I find it quite upsetting to log on to see thread titles that suggest I am experiencing problems I was previously unaware of.

Dave
(The REAL DaveB)

[Arm out the window]

It might be a good time to cue the Kiwi "Jet Pilot" music video now to bring a bit of perspective to the discussion!:ok:

[RAFEmployee]

I'm still employed on the helocopters if you can remember my name ;)

[Airborne Aircrew]

I'm still employed on the helocopters if you can remember my name

That's a helacopter... Chinook crewmen serve - but are not necessarily aircrew, and some of the local ex-Rocks aren't that silent...:}

Oh, and Aidu and Seldom are Cherie Blair's love children... fathered by Minigun...:confused:

[D O Guerrero]

This thread is starting to prove Lossie's point I fear....

[Brian Abraham]

Anyone who uses the word 'plane' instead of 'aircraft' or 'aeroplane'
Beags, does the USN usage of the term "Plane Captain" pass muster? ;)

[NutLoose]

Is it still holding true that VC10 Loadmasters are not allowed to put power on the Aircraft?

[Arm out the window]

apostrophie's

Wot skool was that prize from, then?:}

[FFP]

Is it still holding true that VC10 Loadmasters are not allowed to put power on the Aircraft?

If you could find one that knew how to........:E

[Two's in]

This theme appears on the Rumours and News forum with regular monotony and generally achieves the same response as it is doing here. The discriminator appears to be age and experience, but that too, is a sweeping generalization.

With experience comes the realization that being a pilot is a tremendous opportunity to do something the majority of people will never get to do. The selection process for Military pilots has the unintended side affect of allowing some people to believe their own publicity, but most are grateful for the chance to do something both fun and rewarding. I like to believe that very few Military pilots fail to understand that every hour spent at the sharp end is the result of many, many, hours of dedicated professionalism by all those support personnel in the background. My personal experience has been that those who do understand the scale of the teamwork involved are far less likely to feel the need to announce their aircrew status, those that don't will be flashing the Breitling and Ray-Ban Aviators for evermore.

There are always good times to announce your flying credentials, and of course bad times. Good times may include overhearing the Chief Bridesmaid announcing she's not going home until she's banged a pilot, bad times include when the Crew Chief comes in at 4pm on a Friday afternoon looking for a 2 hour ground run. A true aviation professional will step up to both tasks with good grace and a winning smile. It's like leadership, if you need to tell people you are in charge, you're probably not in charge at all.

[alwayslookingup]

And here endeth the first lesson.

[Chris Scott]

Quote:
By the way with regard to the comment about a journo being on here I would be perfectly happy to be denied permission to join PPrune and thus not to be able to post messages as indeed I'm not a pilot. It would be nice to be able to view the forum however as I do find it enjoyable. But I couldn't grumble even if this was not allowed as afterall as I said I'm not a pilot so if the forum mods want to do that would be understandable as that is what this forum was set up for.
[Unquote]

Speaking generally, not just about the Military Aircrew Forum: what about people who come on to PPRuNe claiming to be journalists, but demonstrate wobbly syntax and seem unwilling to offer much in the way of punctuation?

[RoyHudd]

They are journalists.

[Wader2]

what about people who come on to PPRuNe claiming to be journalists, but demonstrate wobbly syntax and seem unwilling to offer much in the way of punctuation?

Means they are probably journalists and as likely to be in the visual media. The cruncher is their lack of any understanding of aviation. :}




I am not of course, in the latter statement, refering to those known journalists who have proper syntax and knowledge of aviation. :)

[ProM]

Originally Posted by Chris Scott http://static.pprune.org/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.pprune.org/military-aircrew/342990-pilots-pprune-3.html#post4396802)
what about people who come on to PPRuNe claiming to be journalists, but demonstrate wobbly syntax and seem unwilling to offer much in the way of punctuation?


They might be journalists in the visual media, but in the UK they are probably Grauniad journalists.

Looking through the threads I think any objective reviewer would quickly conclude that were only pilots permitted to post then the expertise to answer/discuss would be sorely limited.

Whether it be a thread on passengers standing up on scheduled flights without the input of flight attendants; discussions on the design of CVF without engineers; or discussions on flight separation rules without ATCOs, many threads would be very much the poorer if only pilots were allowed to comment.

However I am not a pilot so my opinion is irrelevant (Twos in got it right though)

[Wessex Boy]

Obviously Chinook Pilots can't post without clearance and Voice Marshalling from their Crewmen?

Clear above and Behind, Steady, Post is good

[Beeayeate]

If it wasn't for ground crew you'd have nothing to be a pilot with!

:ok:

[GOLF_BRAVO_ZULU]

If it wasn't for stackers, dusties and loggies, ground crew would have nothing to spanner w**k with!

:ok:

[minigundiplomat]

Of course, you could swell the ranks of people like 1.4G who don't own up to any particular specialisation (Seriously 1.4G, VC10 Air Steward is not that bad).

Or, you could have a separate forum for C130 guys who want to talk about ovens, and how the captain takes his coffee, or how they really load their own aircraft and need 15 sets of FR CS95 so they can look like the troops they dropped off at the APOD.

Wessex Boy

I don't see how the Chinook is different to the Puma or Merlin in that respect?

[brit bus driver]

Is it still holding true that VC10 Loadmasters are not allowed to put power on the Aircraft?

Is it true that they're no longer allowed to call 'stop' (or abort, or whatever phrase the VC10 uses)? Oh hang on, they never were, but I do believe it happened in the dim and distant....:}

If it wasn't for civilian pilots (ex-mil or not) you'd have no-one to provide charter for a huge proportion of pax AT!!!

[cornish-stormrider]

Helllp.

Can someone please remind me how to add AIDUKFUSS or whatever his name is to an ignore list??

I had hoped the troll had left us.

Oh, and GBZ, us engineers seem to manage ok. we just rob something from another frame. As for tools, we all have leatherman's and maglites. What more do we need??

[BEagle]

As for tools, we all have leatherman's and maglites. What more do we need??

Tape, bodge, black............Qty lots
Tape, speed.....................Qty lots

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a341/nw969/Internet/zxzxz.jpg

[Pontius Navigator]

Ignore is counter intuitive.

Click his name. Select Add to Buddy List. A new window opens. In the Control Panel on the left, at the bottom, is a buddy/ignore list. Click this. The Add window changes to an Add/Ignore window, his name is highlighted, click Save - job done.

[Tourist]

Do you not find that ignoring somebody is more annoying even than just having to read their posts? Half an argument is still irritating surely?

[Pontius Navigator]

Tourist, not sure I follow your argument. :) if there are just 2 in the argument and one is ignored then no argument. In a thread with many contributors the one that is ignored will probably not add anything of value anyway.

If someone is prone to overly long diatribes then they eat up screen real estate - that is one I have blocked. Or if someone is plain annoying.

Now occasionally there may be a gem, often someone will cut and paste so you see the comment anyway.

[LowObservable]

All our syns are properly taxed.

[6onthebleeptest]

"My point is very few are actually started by currently serving Aircrew (or ground crew, mustn't forget them) so maybe a change of the title at the top is in order".


You may find that most of us "frontline" aircrew are too busy doing our job to post regularily on here!!!

Although from the rumours I heard today there may be a few dozen "fag chariot" drivers and rear seaters with a bit of spare time on their hands soon!!!!:eek:

[6onthebleeptest]

Thanx 4 the SP 1.4g..aye shod no better havin' don ISS!!!!:ok:

Is "banter" not a thing of the past now that the "fun police" have introduced PC training?