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bentleg
16th Aug 2008, 07:46
Starting today I seem to have lost all the formatting in PPrune. No other website seems to be affected. Is it my computer or PPrune? I had ten auto-updates downloaded last night, so am I alone or is it happenong to other people? My browser is IE7. Comments pls



Tidbinbilla
16th Aug 2008, 07:55
Bentleg,

the biggest mistake a Windoze user can do is have automatic updates turned on. Take a look here before you apply any updates from Micro$oft:

http://www.askwoody.com (http://www.askwoody.com/)

:}

mphysflier
16th Aug 2008, 08:04
I seem to be in the same boat bentleg. No other websites affected and don't recall any automatic updates since last night either (but memory gets a bit hazy after a couple of reds on a Friday night....)

SmokingHole
16th Aug 2008, 08:04
I seem to be having the same prob. Auto updates are off. No recent updates to this computer.......Started today.

Defenestrator
16th Aug 2008, 08:11
Add me to the list as well. Anyone know how to fix it.

tail wheel
16th Aug 2008, 08:14
Bentleg.

There has been a problem with PPRuNe for the past few weeks (or months) - see HERE (http://www.pprune.org/computer-internet-issues-troubleshooting/334575-pprune-access-problem-reporting.html).

The geeks that talk funny have been working around the clock to try to identify and rectify the problems - hence the site was down for maintenance around 10.00 am AEST this morning.

Not that I understand these computer things, but I believe four servers are currently carrying the load and if you log onto the crook one, you may get something like this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v315/Woomera/PPRuNe/TimeOut-1.jpg

(Yeah, I know, in frustration I made some modifications....... :{ )

If you find the site very slow or times out, or if you get "Database error" or the forum looks "strange":

Log out of PPRuNe
Clear Cookies
Close the browser
Open a new browser and log back into PPRuNe.We're aware that the date/time stamp also has an intermittent fault and shows the wrong time.

Apologies from PPRuNe. Hopefully the problems will be fixed soon.

I've long since given up on IE7 at home. I use Mozilla Firefox - vastly superior.

Tail Wheel

bentleg
16th Aug 2008, 08:24
Tried Tailwheel suggestion. No difference. The Clear Cookies worked, because I had to login again as the login cookie had been lost......Does anyone NOT have this problem and if so what browser?(Edited to remove formating not recognised while this problem applies)

tail wheel
16th Aug 2008, 08:31
As I understand the problem, no browser is immune as it is a site server problem.

From the Boss Geek:

As I had mentioned previously we were able to set up monitoring from various areas around the globe and across each unit of a page download.

We've been tracking it all week and it's been very insightful. Though at times the site does hum along, there are also clearly times where it is dragging its tail, especially in Europe (especially in France!).

The primary culprit is what is known as "first byte download", which could be a number of things. We've been testing a couple of different ideas but have yet to crack it.

Then unfortunately today we got snagged by a completely different problem around connectivity with our firewall (Pprune wasn't alone with this one). Luckily the team dug in and solved this one but it took most of the day.

Tomorrow the team will concentrate once again on the "first byte download" issue which we think is really a combination of multiple issues -- auto redirects, file sizes and compression, apache configuration, persistent connections, location of servers, etc. Each of these potential solutions requires tweaking, testing, tweaking and testing and so the fix is not going to be immediate but we do have a TEAM of people working on this.

We also think that there is some erroneous interaction taking place between the ad system and the vBulletin software that may be the culprit of our notorious timestamp issues, so we're actively exploring solutions for that as well.

Tail Wheel

bentleg
16th Aug 2008, 08:42
Thank you. A PPrune problem. I suspected so.

rmm
16th Aug 2008, 09:08
I'm using Windoze 2000 with Firefox 3.0 and optusnet cable, no problems whatsoever (touch wood)

capt.cynical
16th Aug 2008, 10:30
I also have the funny look & format prob.last MS update was 01-08-08 started today AEST between 0900 & 1300.Good luck sorting this one.

Capt Claret
16th Aug 2008, 10:34
Well, Safari and my Mac work perfekly, jus' perfek. :}

landy01
16th Aug 2008, 10:39
had the same problem:ugh: :{

Tried tailwheel's suggestion, worked perfectly all fixed:ok:

bentleg
16th Aug 2008, 10:58
Tried Tailwheel suggestion. No difference. The Clear Cookies worked, because I had to login again as the login cookie had been lost


I deleted Temporary Internet Files, then reloaded IE. Bingo! Fixed. :ok:

Pinky the pilot
16th Aug 2008, 11:07
What Bentleg said!:ok::ok: Worked a charm!

capt.cynical
16th Aug 2008, 11:14
:ok:Ditto from me bentleg:):) worked well:D

Desert Flower
16th Aug 2008, 12:38
Yo bentleg - you da man! :ok: :D

DF.

Trash Hauler
16th Aug 2008, 13:18
Ctrl F5 fixed the problem for me...........all back to normal.

Cheers

TH

Jenna Talia
16th Aug 2008, 14:03
A big, big thank you to admin 1. I sent a brief email concerned that my computer was cactus and he promptly returned a reply stating it was PPRUNE and not my computer. He later sent me another email advising to delete the contents of the Temp Internet Files and all would be OK.

Now, that is service :ok:

JT

corsair
16th Aug 2008, 17:59
Ctrl F5 fixed the problem for me...........all back to normal.

Cheers

TH

That worked, brilliant. Simple, no caches, cookies or oodledipsers to delete or whatever. But exactly what does Ctrl F5 actually do?

maxgrad
16th Aug 2008, 21:40
Glad I'm not the only silly bugger who pressed CTLF5 not knowing what the heck it does.
Did work a treat though!

bushy
17th Aug 2008, 01:45
I had exactly what you describe.

Now I have to apologise to my computer for all the naughty words I said to it.

Buster Hyman
17th Aug 2008, 02:57
I demand a refund!!!Tail Wheel...if you could organise that through my Nigerian accountant, I'd be most appreciative.

tail wheel
17th Aug 2008, 08:01
Done Buster. I sent it to your Nigerian accountant and he's promised me $45 million.... :}

The problem is being investigated almost around the clock. You can rest assured Danny and the Mod team have pressure on the site administrators to rectify whatever is causing the problem.

CTL F5 seems to clear the problem. Alternatively, log out, clear cookies and history and log back into PPRuNe in a new browser.

The good news I guess is that Australia seems to be almost immune from the problems. It appears far worse in the UK and parts of Europe.

Sorry I can't give you any indication of when it may be fixed.

Buster Hyman
17th Aug 2008, 08:11
Done Buster. I sent it to your Nigerian accountant and he's promised me $45 million.... (tee-hee! Once I give him my PIN & account numbers, I'll be rich I tells ya!!!)

multime
17th Aug 2008, 12:25
Thanks to Prune
Just wasn,t my day without a prune fix.
Regards
M:ok:

HotDog
18th Aug 2008, 00:54
Still no smilies or icons.

flog
18th Aug 2008, 01:55
Ctrl F5 tells the web browser (IE at least) to go and ask for everything again, ignoring the contents of the cache, temp files, cookies, etc.It's good for this as well as some websites where you know the content has refreshed but you're still seeing old stuff.Flog (aka, geek).

bentleg
18th Aug 2008, 06:20
Still no smilies or icons.


Delete Temporary Internet Files, then reload IE.

HotDog
18th Aug 2008, 08:22
Magic! Thanks bentleg.

Keg
18th Aug 2008, 08:26
If you're using IE7 then you deserve everything you get! :E I've never had hassles with Firefox! :ok:

slam_dunk
18th Aug 2008, 15:36
Thanks for THE tip !

Ctrl F5 did the trick !

( but why was it screwed up in the first place? :confused:)

Buster Hyman
19th Aug 2008, 14:22
Careful with Firefox, Hackers just hit them!

BEACH KING
22nd Aug 2008, 06:18
Deleting temporary internet files seemed to work for me.

http://www.advrider.com/forums/images/smilies/lamer.gif

tail wheel
22nd Aug 2008, 07:07
I am advised a number of site problems have been resolved, however there is still an intermittent problem with the site responses slowing down for short periods.

I will advise further if I hear of any improvements.

Pinky the pilot
22nd Aug 2008, 11:25
Taily, Does this mean that the beatings will continue until morale/performance improves?:}:E

hadagutfull
23rd Aug 2008, 16:57
get a mac....

tail wheel
24th Aug 2008, 12:33
Pinky. You can rest assured the site technical staff have had more than an ear full from the Mods!!! :=

I - and other Mods in the UK and US - are experiencing a 20 minute slow down most days at almost excatly 4.00 pm (0600UTC) and have reported that to the site administrators.

Most of the database problems seem to have been solved.