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picollo
3rd Aug 2008, 19:26
Hello,
I fly the 320 for a major airline in the US. We use our own SOPs , and we have just one memory item ( O2 masks 100%).
I understand that Airbus SOPs have about 7 memory items.
Would anyone be kind enough to post them ?

Thanks

Ipaq
3rd Aug 2008, 19:41
In our company:
QRH drill: Loss of braking
QRH drill: GPWS alerts
QRH drill EGPWS alerts
QRH drill TCAS warnings
QRH drill - immediate actions EMER Descent
QRH drill - Low energy warning
Memory Items - Unreliable Speed Indications

bflyer
3rd Aug 2008, 19:43
ditto ipac

Henry VIII
3rd Aug 2008, 20:31
Airbus FCOM 3.02.01 page 2a :

MEMORY ITEMS

The following procedures are to be applied without referring to paper : Windshear, windshear ahead, TCAS, EGPWS, loss of braking, immediate actions of EMER DESCENT, immediate actions of UNRELIABLE SPEED INDICATION/ADR CHECK PROC, CREW INCAPACITATION.

picollo
3rd Aug 2008, 20:46
Thanks a lot .

Clandestino
3rd Aug 2008, 22:49
:confused:

How do you deal with loss of braking? Just curious.

Sean Dell
3rd Aug 2008, 23:15
Use pedal (man) brakes

if not

Full Reverse

Release brake pedals

A/Skid NWS - off

Apply Alt braking (Max 1000 PSI)

If still no joy

Short succcessive appication of Park Brake (all 3000ish PSI)

Then peel nose off windscreen :ugh:

Tester Call 121.5
3rd Aug 2008, 23:19
ood practice for me...

Max Reverse
Release brakes pressure
Switch off A/Skid N.W. Steering switch
Increase brake pressure.

If still no brakes...
Use hand brakes in short sharp shots.



Off to the books and confirm

St. Ex
4th Aug 2008, 11:39
Also, FCOM 3 TOME 2 states under SOPs that the flows have to be "performed from memory".

It is also a good idea to commit to memory the procedure for recovery from loss of FMS data/ severe reset specially when it happens during approach or close to landing.

The 7 memory items stated in FCOM 3.02.01 P2a and SOPs Standard Callouts 3.03.90 p4:

1) Windshear/ windshear ahead: "Windshear, TOGA" 3.02.80 p19
2) TCAS: "Traffic, I have control" 3.02.34 p12 and p17
3) EGPWS: "Pull up, TOGA" 3.02.34 p15
4) Loss of braking "Loss of braking" 3.02.32 p11
5) Immediate actions of EMER DESCENT "Emergency Descent" 3.02.80 p7
6) Immediate actions of UNRELIABLE SPEED INDICATION/ ADR CHECK PROC "Unreliable speed" 3.02.34 p20
7) CREW INCAPACITATION 3.02.80 p9

But if you read the FCTM, Airbus will tell you there are no memory items!

colsie
4th Aug 2008, 11:56
Ok, can I ask what you do when a crew incapacitation occurs? And more importantly what if both members of crew become incapacitated?

kijangnim
4th Aug 2008, 12:19
Greetings

Just Pray :}

FLX/MCT
4th Aug 2008, 15:11
Hi,

according to the unreliable speed indication: do you have to know the proper pitch angles for specific airspeeds and Grossweights or is just the technique to get a stable flightpath and to compare the flight data from the different ADRs a memory item?


best regards,

luke

jb5000
4th Aug 2008, 15:20
Below acceleration altitude: TOGA, 15 degrees NU

Above that but below 10,000': CLB, 10 degrees NU

Above 10,000': CLB, 5 degrees NU

QRH then has various pitch / power couples for different weights and altitudes as it recommends you consider levelling off above MSA, as an increase in altitude may make the speed error even worse.

If you need a higher nose up pitch to stay level then you're a bit slow, and vice versa.

Hope that helps.

FLX/MCT
4th Aug 2008, 15:27
Yes of course it helps!

Thank you! :ok:

javiersg
4th Aug 2008, 15:35
Crew incapacitation actions are writen in the FCTM and the FCOM 3. (this for the airbus)

Basically, you have to take over pressing the red push botton on the side-stick 45seconds. Return to the safe flight and engage the A/P (your side).

Then, "purser to cockpit please" by the PA, ask her/him to fasten the seat belt and move the seat backwards (so as to not to interfere in the instruments or with the handling of the aircraft). In addition ask for any qualified pilot on board and a doctor.

Declare emergency,In the mean time, in the MCDU you have an option which is called closest airports, with the information of the four nearest airport around you (check on the maps/charts the suitable, runway length...).

If you don´t have the last weather report ask for it, request proceed to, priority, high speed, radar vectors..

Well, a good idea would be inform the passengers (I wouldn´t say the real problem at all..)

When approaching, inform to the ATC that you are going to stop the aircraft on the rwy and medical assistance is required(giving all the details about the incapacitated crew)

Prepare the approach and read the check list earlier than usual. Request radar vectoring and prefer a long approach to reduce work load.

if both are incapacitated,,,just pray or sing a song untill run out of fuel.

bye

Field In Sight
4th Aug 2008, 16:48
A couple more I use:

Engine Tailpipe fire.
Rudder Jam - Use differential braking
Flat/Slat lock - Pull speed.
Stall recovery - (More for the sim).

FIS

A320_DRIVER
30th Apr 2010, 22:33
I WOULD MEMORIZE IT THIS WAY :

WET GLU INCAPACITATION ..:ok:

W: WIND SHEAR
E:EMERGENCY DESCENT
T: Tcas
G:GPWS
L:LOSS OF BRAKING
U: UNRELIABLE SPEED

AND INCAPACITATION ,,,:ugh:

longobard
1st May 2010, 13:50
Windshear/Windshear ahead
Egpws
Tcas
Crew incapacitation
Loss of braking
Unreliable speed
Emergency descent

elac2
2nd May 2010, 08:00
Any thought on RTO as memory item. Up until you stop and ask for ECAM or On Ground Emergency Evacuation Checklist?

elac2

compressor stall
2nd May 2010, 11:33
By that logic elac, you'd also have advancing the power as a Memory Item. And rotation. And gear up. And flare ... :ugh:

And the memory items ARE in the FCTM. Although the list is not exactly the same as the FCOMs :eek:

tarik123
2nd May 2010, 15:21
Do not you think Oxy is a very important memory item that is not included
in the memory items list?

Also the unreliable speed above 10000 ft does not clearly say that it should only be used during climb and not cruise.

Loss of braking is another issue because of the loss of nose wheel steering
if memory items followed.

k-skywalker
13th Jan 2011, 15:25
Preelut
P-predictive Windshear (windshear Ahead)
R-reactive Windshear (u R In The Windshear)
E-emergency Descent
E-egpws Warning
L-loss Of Braking
U-unreliable Speed Indication
T-tcas Resolution Advisory

PantLoad
14th Jan 2011, 14:19
Two more...

Stall and Stall on Takeoff....

I'm thinking it's a total of ten memory checklists. K-Skywalker listed seven. Pilot Incapacitation is eight. The two listed above make ten.

The Stall and Stall on Takeoff are new.

Tailpipe fire is not one of them....but, I fell it could/should be....as mentioned.

Fly safe,

PantLoad

ggofpac
15th Jan 2011, 06:20
10 on my list as per pantload:)

RA-alive
15th Jan 2011, 08:02
The way i remember the 10 memory items are with the acronym
WETLUG SSC

W- Windshear Ahead & Windshear (2)
E-Emer Descent
T-Tcas
L-Loss of Braking
U- Unreliable speed
G- eGpws
S-Stall warning at lift off
S-Stall
C-Crew Incapacitation...
hope this helps.....

sand_groper
23rd Feb 2011, 09:11
Another less appropriate way to remember them is: Pilot Wagesluts

Pilot (incapacitation)
W (windshear ahead)
A (actual windshear)
G (EGPWS)
E (emergency descent)
S (stall)
L (loss of braking)
U (unreliable airspeed)
T (TCAS)
S (stall on takeoff)

might work for those with a mind not indifferent to mine... :ok:

Upper Air
24th Feb 2011, 11:35
"just pray" ------???

How can you "just pray" if you are incapacitated. . ?:rolleyes:

Upper Air
24th Feb 2011, 11:40
sand groper:

"Another less appropriate way to remember them is: Pilot Wagesluts

Pilot (incapacitation)
W (windshear ahead)
A (actual windshear)
G (EGPWS)
E (emergency descent)
S (stall)
L (loss of braking)
U (unreliable airspeed)
T (TCAS)
S (stall on takeoff)

might work for those with a mind not indifferent to mine... http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/thumbs.gif"



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Thanks sand groper - Perfect!! UA

pezetaroi
8th Mar 2011, 01:53
10 Memory Items + Limitations

Superpilot
11th Mar 2022, 04:31
Old thread I know, but given the changes over the last decade, I now use:

GUTLESS.W
(Gutless Wonder, American slang often cited in Westerns)

GPWS/EGPWS Warnings and Cautions
Unreliable Speed
TCAS
Loss of Braking
Emergency Decent
Stall Warning
Stall at Lift off
Windshear and Windshear Ahead

pineteam
15th Mar 2022, 00:31
Old thread I know, but given the changes over the last decade, I now use:

GUTLESS.W
(Gutless Wonder, American slang often cited in Westerns)

GPWS/EGPWS Warnings and Cautions
Unreliable Speed
TCAS
Loss of Braking
Emergency Decent
Stall Warning
Stall at Lift off
Windshear and Windshear Ahead

Nice one!:ok: I will share it to my American fellas.
Even better now that Windshear Ahead is not a memory item anymore.

I use this one: W.EGGS.SLUT.
Windshear Warning
Emergency Descent
GPWS/EGPWS Cautions
GPWS/EGPWS Warnings
Stall Recovery
Stall Warning at lift off
Loss of braking
Unreliable Airspeed Indication
TCAS Warnings.

dream747
17th Mar 2022, 00:55
Alternatively another great way to remember these if you're not an acronym person, use a flow pattern on the cockpit instruments.

For example, if you're a LHS pilot, from left to right:

Airspeed Indicator: Unreliable Airspeed, Stall Warning at lift-off, Stall Recovery
VSI: TCAS
Wind indicator on the ND: Windshear
TERR on ND switch: EGPWS warnings, EGPWS cautions
FCU: Emergency Descent
Anti-skid/NWS switch: Loss of Braking

Vessbot
17th Mar 2022, 14:30
In our company:
QRH drill: Loss of braking
QRH drill: GPWS alerts
QRH drill EGPWS alerts
QRH drill TCAS warnings
QRH drill - immediate actions EMER Descent
QRH drill - Low energy warning
Memory Items - Unreliable Speed Indications
What does this mean - if you get a TCAS or a GPWS, or in the middle of landing rollout realize you have no braking, you're supposed to open the QRH?

Check Airman
17th Mar 2022, 21:39
What does this mean - if you get a TCAS or a GPWS, or in the middle of landing rollout realize you have no braking, you're supposed to open the QRH?

At my company, yes. :ugh:

pineteam
18th Mar 2022, 04:38
Alternatively another great way to remember these if you're not an acronym person, use a flow pattern on the cockpit instruments.

For example, if you're a LHS pilot, from left to right:

Airspeed Indicator: Unreliable Airspeed, Stall Warning at lift-off, Stall Recovery
VSI: TCAS
Wind indicator on the ND: Windshear
TERR on ND switch: EGPWS warnings, EGPWS cautions
FCU: Emergency Descent
Anti-skid/NWS switch: Loss of Braking

I’m a big fan of Acronym but I must say this trick is pretty good too. Thank you for sharing! :ok:

At my company, yes. :ugh:
How is that possible??? You get a TCAS RA you are supposed to be like: Hang on! Let’s get the QRH first instead of flying the plane?! Lol. Surely you apply the memory items first then maybe check the QRH right? Memory items are procedures to be taken without any delay. I’m curious to know the logic behind it.

Check Airman
18th Mar 2022, 11:30
I’m a big fan of Acronym but I must say this trick is pretty good too. Thank you for sharing! :ok:


How is that possible??? You get a TCAS RA you are supposed to be like: Hang on! Let’s get the QRH first instead of flying the plane?! Lol. Surely you apply the memory items first then maybe check the QRH right? Memory items are procedures to be taken without any delay. I’m curious to know the logic behind it.
At this point, I've given up on asking questions. Stupid doesn't begin to describe it, but I'm just a regular line pilot.

vilas
18th Mar 2022, 16:52
It's not important to remember how many items of memory are there. Any mnemonics will do. But all the actions required to be executed under each one of them is what saves the bacon. Those must not be forgotten.

pineteam
19th Mar 2022, 02:41
Totally agree with you Vilas. Unfortunately many instructors still love to ask these kind of questions like: How many memory items? What are they? Or like what is the max EGT for engine start? In my head I’m like: Just look at the EWD. :p

Check Airman
20th Mar 2022, 00:26
Those are certainly odd questions pineteam. I completely agree with vilas. Knowing how many or what they are isn't as important as knowing how to execute them properly.

ScepticalOptomist
20th Mar 2022, 01:40
Totally agree with you Vilas. Unfortunately many instructors still love to ask these kind of questions like: How many memory items? What are they? Or like what is the max EGT for engine start? In my head I’m like: Just look at the EWD. :p

Only poor instructors ask those type of questions. I feel sorry for any professional that has to deal with such poor training Captains.

pineteam
20th Mar 2022, 02:05
Yep I know guys.. Unfortunately it’s a reality. :}

Uplinker
20th Mar 2022, 10:40
Totally agree with you Vilas. Unfortunately many instructors still love to ask these kind of questions like: How many memory items? What are they? Or like what is the max EGT for engine start? In my head I’m like: Just look at the EWD. :p


Asking what the memory items are is fair enough - we all need to know them and recall them at any time., so we must be able to recite them line by line if asked.

But as you say, pineteam; asking what the engine limitations are is no longer necessary, now that we have sophisticated displays that tell us, and ECAM that alerts us. One way to stop instructors doing this this is to find some obscure fact in the manuals, and innocently ask the instructor about it. Then see if they can answer.

I am still gobsmacked that the airlines of the OP did not mandate all the Airbus memory drills !! How on Earth would they have managed if a memory drill situation had arisen?

CaptainMongo
20th Mar 2022, 11:46
I’m a big fan of Acronym but I must say this trick is pretty good too. Thank you for sharing! :ok:


How is that possible??? You get a TCAS RA you are supposed to be like: Hang on! Let’s get the QRH first instead of flying the plane?! Lol. Surely you apply the memory items first then maybe check the QRH right? Memory items are procedures to be taken without any delay. I’m curious to know the logic behind it.

I know I am preaching to the choir but the catchall is in any non normal the first pilot action is to “Fly the aircraft.”

At our company, “Fly the aircraft” means to include the pilot is expected to take any actions necessary to stabilize the situation. Those actions could be memory items or not, doesn’t matter. Only then do we refer to QRH etc.

tubby linton
20th Mar 2022, 19:27
For the majority of these warnings you repeat what the aircraft has said to you and add TOGA.It is much more important to know what to do than try and memorise the cause.