Cool stuff. Wind sail pulling large cargo ships. 4 year break even.

SkySails - Turn Wind into Profit (http://www.skysails.info/index.php?L=1)

http://s2.streamingfarm.tv/streamingfarm/skysails_clips/20070823_SkySails_Erklaerfilm_e03_768k.wmv

http://www.skysails.info/fileadmin/user_upload/Pressedownload/Dokumente/EN_Technology_Information.pdf

http://www.skysails.info/fileadmin/user_upload/Pressedownload/Dokumente/EN_Turn_Wind_into_Profit.pdf
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I guess if you reduced crew costs by adding in the press gang and the lash you'd really see profits soar.

...and Admiral Drapes, playing "15 men on a dead man' chest, yo ho hum and a bottle of Bundaberg" on Strat......:E

That'd be Rear Admiral Drapes I believe...

Look bloody silly when bunker oil prices crash...

:hmm:....STERN Admiral Drapes might be a safer way of phrasing that....:)

hope they know how to gybe it.......lots of scary fun to be had when spinnakers go out of control :eek:

So...who gives way at sea then?

(you nautical chaps will know what I mean)

Would a very large fan, powered by water flow past the hull, and blowing forward, make it go faster ???

(Please don't waste 40 pages discussing this.) :=

You have nothing to fear.

Port gives way to Stbd
Windward gives way to leeward

-visions of tanker captains shouting "stbd" and "water" come to mind :eek:

I was thinking there was a "powered vs Sail" rule in there somewhere Kluge....:confused:

Only if under sail - as a sailing vessel.

If not it is motor sailing and hence subject to the rules of a power vessel.

There were nowt wrong wi a load of natives chained to oars,when yer wanted to go faster yer just laid on a bit wi the lash,very green form of propulsion it were.
:rolleyes:

Mr Draper - I think you've just hit on the perfect solution for prison overcrowding.
And an environmentally "green" idea it is too. Captive in the hold of a ship and forced to work.
Excellent :ok:

Some time ago stood on the harbour wall at Le Havre watching a little yacht in very light winds desperately trying to clear the harbour entrance before the 250,000 ton tanker with several attached tugs arrived made me wonder if the 'steam gives way to sail' rule is as fixed as it sounds.

The yacht crew were paddling away with anything they could lay their hands on including a frying pan and, I suspect, the ships cat.

The following may help explain.

"Here lies the body of Michael o'Day who died defending his right of way.
He was right, dead right, as he sailed along but he's just as dead as if he'd been wrong."

Seen it occur up the Seaway,silly buggah dressed like a Admilral in a wee plastic yot demanding a 5000 ton cargo vessel give way,big nasty Glaswiegian Master put him right on the loudhailer,
"Git oot me way ya wee fecker or I'll run ya doon"
:rolleyes:

Pah, I've had one of them for years.

http://tinypic.com/dp7bwj.jpg

From: International Regulations for Preventing Collisions at Sea

18. Responsibilities Between Vessels
Except in narrow channels, traffic schemes, and when overtaking (i.e. rules 9, 10, and 13)
A power-driven vessel must give way to:
a vessel not under command;
a vessel restricted in ability to maneuver;
a vessel engaged in fishing;
a sailing vessel.
A sailing vessel must give way to:
a vessel not under command;
a vessel restricted in ability to maneuver;
a vessel engaged in fishing.

Quinquireme of Nineveh from distant Ophir,
Rowing home to haven in sunny Palestine,
With a cargo of ivory,
And apes and peacocks,
Sandalwood, cedarwood, and sweet white wine.

Stately Spanish galleon coming from the Isthmus,
Dipping through the Tropics by the palm-green shores,
With a cargo of diamonds,
Emeralds, amythysts,
Topazes, and cinnamon, and gold moidores.

SkySail of Deutschland coming out of Kobe,
Chugging from the Far East pulled by a kite,
With a cargo of Datsuns,
Mazdas, Hondas,
Into the Solent past the Isle of Wight.


(With apologies to the late John Masefield)

A sailing vessel must give way to:
a vessel not under command;
a vessel restricted in ability to maneuver;
a vessel engaged in fishing.

Plus the universal rule of "might is right". :E

Where does a rowing boat come into this?

When training for the Sark to Jersey rowing race we nearly got run down by the Corbiere car ferry coming into St Helier as we rowed out against the tide. Prolly didn't see our dinky ladies coxed four.....and we were of course facing astern and couldn't see it.... Cox lost her voice for a few days after yelling "Row!! ROW!!!!!!!FU"""NG ROW YOU STUPID C***TS WE'RE GUUNA GET HIT BY THE CORBIERE!!!!" Surprised the Corbiere crew didn't hear her :eek:


Ooo err!!
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h315/minnie_the_minx/Corbiere01.jpg

Sea rowing - A great way to keep fit!

A sailing vessel must give way to:
a vessel not under command;
a vessel restricted in ability to maneuver;
a vessel engaged in fishing.


You just try crossing the Channel say from Cherbourg to Portsmouth in your sailing yacht and try holding your course. Apart from anything else its pure common sense to get out of the way of ships in the Channel.

I've lost count of the number of times I have had close shaves not only in the Channel but also the Med where you might be lucky to see anyone on the bridge!

RiscOS
"Would a very large fan, powered by water flow past the hull, and blowing forward, make it go faster ???"

Only if it was on a frictionless conveyor belt :ok:

That's what that tunnel is for Mr Gannet, civilians, :E
The greatest fear in the channel used to be Greeks,Lands End Radio used to transmit,
"Warning to all vessel in the Western approaches and North Sea area Dogger Greek Merchant Vessel at large in English Channel, assume not under control"
:uhoh:

Thanks, pup. That's what I thought.

I seemed to offend some of the merchant ships coming up Chesapeake Bay. They were blasting nasty signals with their whistle while I sailed across their path FAR ahead of them. I think you'll find another rule somewhere that says that one can't require the burdened vessel to deviate into shoal water where it would run aground.

All this sail has the right of way is more theoretical than practical. It should be observed in the case of pleasure motor boats, but they seemed to enjoy missing me by minimal distances to see me bob around in their wake.

"SkySail of Deutschland coming out of Kobe,
Chugging from the Far East pulled by a kite,
With a cargo of Datsuns,
Mazdas, Hondas,
Into the Solent past the Isle of Wight."

Brilliant. I love it.

:ok:

If a boat has bigger lifeboats than my boat it can do whatever it likes.
I'll avoid it thankyouverymuch.

Anyway, for non sailors, you know when you cross the road, maybe too close to an oncoming car, he maybe beeps the horn.
Try that on a yacht against a ferry, when he beeps his horn the entire bay hears it.

Indeed ,Great Rhyming Mr? 603DX, :ok::rolleyes:

Try that on a yacht against a ferry

Yes, or one of Her Majesty's smaller ships vs the Queen Mary. All of creation, but especially the captain of HM Smaller Ship, vibrates to the throb ("sound" is a wholly inadequate word) of that whistle. Glad I was not the OOW, just a by-stander, altough the captain's remarks embraced by-standers too, I rather thought. Of course, the QM was probably a bit hyper after carving HMS Curacoa into two.

Yer lorra kinetic energy in 30,000 tons of steel and crude ambling forward at 12 knots yer can't just pull back on the reins and clatter to a stop,and 30k tons is a wee one now,the bridge would not even notice the bow squishing some flatpack recreational vehicle,now a iceberg is a different matter.
Coincidently on another website read about one those Aquacars that appeared in the sixties,you know looked a bit like the old Triumph Herald wi the top cut off,drive straight into the water and it became a boat,read that some chap tried to drive one across the Straight of Gibralta and came off worse in a argument wi a big bulk carrier,the vessel was cleared of all blame steam not having to give way to four wheels, the ship didn't actually hit the car just swamped it with its wake.
:uhoh:

Or just drive along the shore and confuse/scare everybody.
YouTube - Bigger than a Train Horn #2 (Ferry Horn) (http://youtube.com/watch?v=rjR5K_Fb6r4&feature=related)

Thank you, Mac and Mr D. Couldn't resist it - I have always loved that original little poem.

And yes, Mr D, I am Mr - at least, I was when I last looked.

green granite gets it :ugh: