New helicopter - NEO two seater

[verticalairborne]

Does anybody know if this helicopter has already been test flown??

It´s a new designed two seater light helicopter made of composite and a NOTAR tail.
Designed by a german aeronautical engineer.

It was displayed on the ILA in Berlin.

Would be great if somebody got some more details...

many thanks

[md 600 driver]

i read somewhere it uses exhaust gases to counteract torque how will this work when the engine stops also what is the tail boom made of

in the notar there is a fan driven by the gearbox which drives air into the thruster bin and blows air down tail boom for counteracting torque [although some other pilots still think hot exaust gases flow down the tail boom ]

[handysnaks]

although some other pilots still think hot exaust gases flow down the tail boom

Whereas most other people know they flow straight to the pilots microphone:p

[ChopperFAN]

Looks cheap, how much is your life worth...?

That rear has tiny aerofoils, doubt if they would have any effect in the real world... they scamed the 500 series and NOTAR tail so y not the fins to go with?

How come they can use the Notar concept and others dont, isnt that patended to the owners of MD now?

The site tells you sweet f all bout it

What drivetrain are they going with? Are the complex components made by them or from another model?

Simon

[MrEdd]

On asking Youngcopter about the anti-torque system, Mr Jung confirmed the following to Rotorhub.com:- "We use a system similar to the one MD Helicopters uses. We do not call it NOTAR because there is a little difference in the design and this acronym is a registered trademark of MD. We just call it JCS which stands for jet control system. The basic patent of the MD system has expired some years ago which means that its content is state-of-the-art. There are several new and active patents owned by MD which are not touched by our JCS-design.

[ChopperFAN]

Well i guess that explains it, i too remember hearing that boeing kept the patend for the NOTAR when the lines were sold to RDM i think its called a few years back so they could incoperate it into their future lines

Im always sketching different helicopter designs since i was about 8 and ive always wondered what legalities would be involved in using a simular system

Alot of the rotorcraft i come up with have a simular setup to the fenestrom, as ive heard different things bout tail authority with the notars in certain winds

Seems that as much of a good idea it is, the conventional tail or fenestrom still is the better design in the real world

Hope this NEO doesnt end up being another mini500 style deathtrap...:\

Cheap helicopters give the real deal turbines and their pilots a bad name when they cause all these mishaps, and the image rubs off onto the public

You get what you pay for...


Simon

[Runway101]

i read somewhere it uses exhaust gases to counteract torque how will this work when the engine stops

no engine no torque -> no need for anti-torque system??

[heli1]

I see there was a good article on the Neo in last week's HeliData News ..if you can afford the annual subscription !Its currently completing ground runs and due to fly this summer.Apparently the NOTAR patent has expired which is why it can use a similar system.

[Yellow & Blue Baron]

No engine no torque -> no need for anti-torque system??


Yes but directional control after a loss of power might still be useful.

http://www.youngcopter.com/assets/images/ha64_300.JPG

http://www.youngcopter.com/assets/images/ha23_300.JPG

http://www.youngcopter.com/assets/images/ha182_300.JPG

I think the style of this helicopter still has attraction - is there anyone owning a NEO who can report a little about its handling quality especially with the JCS (jet control system) anti-torque device?

http://www.youngcopter.com/assets/images/yc084_900.JPG

YBB

[Ian Corrigible]

...is there anyone owning a NEO...
AFAIK it's still at the concept/study phase only, in common with the plethora of other concepts that emerged during the peak years of 2006-8. No customer deliveries yet.

I/C

[Runway101]

From the web site:

20.12.2010

Since our last info mail a lot of time has passed and in the meantime a lot of inquiries have reached us.

The development of our NEO is still in full swing. Through the intensive use of modern and up-to-date technologies in the fields of the airframe, rotor, powerplant and control system the development effort emerged clearly more extensive than originally thought. In this process even small changes are often followed by further time consuming changes.

One of the latest tasks was the dynamic tuning of the rotor system. Recently, here we have achieved our goal. The rotor is now running at a very low vibration level and the cyclic stick is almost free of vibration. For the first time we have achieved that after assembly of the blades the rotor could go into operation without further track and balance corrections.

Currently we are working on the most efficient coordination of the jet control system at the tail. We assume that NEO will fulfill all of our requirements soon and that we finally can provide information on the future price of the kit and its delivery times.

But first, we look forward to peaceful holidays and wish you

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!

[Ian Corrigible]

NEO takes to the air!
NEO Youngcopter (www.youngcopter.com/html/news.html) November 7th

On October 31, 2011, NEO left the ground taking off to its first test flight at Mainz Airfield, Germany. After more than ten years of development a dream became reality. With this first flight we have reached the most significant milestone and our NEO project is now entering a new phase.

As part of the certification program Neo now has to fulfill numerous tests on the ground and in the air. We are recieving a lot of inquiries and currently expect the start of a kit production in 2013 at the earliest.

The first flight and the subsequent second flight were used to qualitatively assess stability and control properties of the helicopter. As expected, the rotor is very responsive and also for yaw control the Jet Control System (JCS) requires small inputs only.
neo first flight.mov - YouTube

I/C

[hillberg]

Nice little helicopter:ok:

[krypton_john]

Looks pretty unstable but I guess there's a lot of tuning still to do.

No stabilisers at all?

[mickjoebill]

No helmet, bare arms.. on the first flight?



Mickjoebill

[hillberg]

Not unstable, Look at the movement of the cyclic. He's just feeling out the new equipment.:}

[krypton_john]

Looked to me like he was behind it not ahead of it!

[Vertical Freedom]

Morning Chaps....any new news on the NEO? no response from the company = hmmmmmm maybe it's all over red rover, even before the start :{ looked a nice bitta kit though :8