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donnlass
20th May 2008, 14:50
http://www.pprune.org/forums/images/icons/mpangel.gif Beacons!!!!!
Hello Everyone

I am interested in planes and how they fly etc as well as radar and navigation.

I was out in Knutsford, Cheshire recently viewing an old water tower which my partner was showing me and it had aerials on the top. I noticed that planes were turning as they flew over it and I wondered if it was waypoint or a beacon (VOR)?.

I cant find any info on what it might be and was wondering if you could let me know what it is exactly.

I have the Manchester Aerodrome Booklet which I am slowly fathoming out but cant work it out from there.


Many thanks

Chat again soon

Donnlass

Intruder
20th May 2008, 15:15
Probably just a convenient visual reference that happens to have mobile phone antennae on it...

opnot
20th May 2008, 15:21
Donlass
I expect those aerials are micro-wave links for mobile phones, they seem to appear everywhere nowdays.
Acft which turn over Knutford are flying a standard instrument departure from Manchester, part of which includes the instruction to turn left 6 miles after departure, this distance is measured from the Manchester vor sited on the airfield.
Hope this helps

chiglet
20th May 2008, 15:46
www.ais.org.uk (http://www.ais.org.uk)
This site [you have to register, but it's free] gives you ALL the info on UK Airspace/VORs[beacons]/Airports....and all the radio freqs,so that you can all listen to ATC [illegally]
watp,iktch

HEATHROW DIRECTOR
20th May 2008, 15:48
A VOR is a huge device. Look out for a short, round building with a kind of round wire mesh about it and lots of strange shaped antennas around it. Look up the location of one at tha AIS site and then go and look at it. They're fascinating..

cieloitaliano
20th May 2008, 15:55
This link has most of the UK DVOR 'beacons' listed and photographed.

http://www.trevord.com/navaids/index.htm

donnlass
21st May 2008, 09:08
Thanks all for your help and advice on my beacon query. I will be checking out all the info you have given me on those sites. Cheers again.

TotalBeginner
25th May 2008, 23:15
No, definitely not a VOR. Here's what one looks like...

http://www.trevord.com/navaids/naimages/highres/hr_dty1.jpg
Daventry DVOR

You can also see them on Google Earth (if you look very carefully)

diddy1234
26th May 2008, 16:24
correct me if i am wrong but isnt there one at hatfiled's old site and at nuthampstead ?

these can be seen here :-

http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=51.762181&lon=-0.255675&z=18.9&r=0&src=msl

RD

HEATHROW DIRECTOR
26th May 2008, 17:19
I don't think there's one at Hatfield unless it is experimental. The closest VOR to there is at Bovingdon.. Nuthampstead is probably the Barkway VOR.

MikeStanton
26th May 2008, 17:36
There is a VOR station near to Brixham Devon up on the headland. You can walk right underneath it Worryingly there is no security at all ! not even a fence just a concrete building housing the electronics :eek:

HEATHROW DIRECTOR
26th May 2008, 17:56
That'll be Berry Head.