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gomez308
18th May 2008, 14:45
Has anyone heard of this happening. Where are all the C-5s and C-17s?

brickhistory
18th May 2008, 14:47
They're a bit busy nowadays.

So what? Contract air is used all the time. The ANs, when they work, can carry boat-loads of stuff. They've been used for years now.

Admittedly, it's weird to see one on a US base, but times do change........

High_lander
18th May 2008, 14:48
They also ship MRAPS straight out to Iraq. They're not the enemy anymore!

We also use them to transport Merlins etc.

MAINJAFAD
18th May 2008, 16:10
Seen them move UK Apaches, F-3's and a whole host of other stuff over the years. Nothing new.

Big Tudor
18th May 2008, 17:01
Nowt new in using the AN's. In the run up to GW1 Gutersloh had an AN124 pop in by to pick up a few bits and pieces. :eek: Also had 3 x IL76's operating out of Gut for a few days. And this was less than 18 months after the redesign of the Berlin Wall. Mind you things were rather busy then :uhoh:

TEEEJ
18th May 2008, 18:32
Nothing new in outsourcing transportation contracts. Ukranian and Russian airlift companies have been very busy over the years on military contracts.

The sole Ukranian operated An-225 has also been used for military contracts to both Iraq and Afghanistan.

http://www.charleston.net/news/2008/jan/05/air_force_hires_russian_jets26735/

http://www.sfu.ca/casr/ft-isaf-armour2.htm

http://www.nato.int/issues/strategic-lift-air/index.html

http://www.volga-dnepr.com/eng/presscentre/releases/?id=4523

http://www.mfa.gov.ua/usa/en/publication/content/12550.htm

Cheers

TJ

larssnowpharter
18th May 2008, 19:06
Nowt new in using the AN's. In the run up to GW1 Gutersloh had an AN124 pop in by to pick up a few bits and pieces. Also had 3 x IL76's operating out of Gut for a few days. And this was less than 18 months after the redesign of the Berlin Wall. Mind you things were rather busy then

The few 'bits and pieces' were a couple of main base transfer loaders (them thingies that move pallets off high sill aircraft onto pallet dollies) on feckin great trailers. The IL 76s were moving a Dutch Hawk missile unit out to Turkey.

By the way, the An 124 was bloody tight getting around the taxiways at Gut. The 5188 ft runway meant that it didn't have far to go before refuelling either.

During the build up to the 'invasion' of Kosovo the UAE moved a fair number of their choppers to Macedonski coutesy of the Antonov Design Bureau.

Alber Ratman
18th May 2008, 19:35
And AN124's are used by the MOD all the time.:ok:

mr fish
18th May 2008, 20:00
all the examples posted so far seem a bit one way, any trade from the other direction, a c5 with a mig on board would look weird maybe?

brickhistory
18th May 2008, 20:03
a c5 with a mig on board would look weird maybe?

1976 from Japan.

After several Arab-Israeli spats.

But I don't that's what you meant exactly.................

MSF
18th May 2008, 20:05
Aeroflot were carrying choppers for the US Army after the Somalia pullout.
Nothing new there.

TEEEJ
18th May 2008, 21:35
mr fish wrote

all the examples posted so far seem a bit one way, any trade from the other direction, a c5 with a mig on board would look weird maybe?

Moldovan MiG-29 Fulcrum B being loaded onto a C-17 during 1997.

http://www.defenselink.mil/dodcmsshare/newsphoto/1997-11/971028-F-0000X-003_screen.jpg

http://www.defenselink.mil/photos/newsphoto.aspx?newsphotoid=904

TJ

mr fish
19th May 2008, 16:04
TEEEJ, thanks for the pic, and to my cold war eyes that does look weird!!!

Tyres O'Flaherty
19th May 2008, 18:21
The day I knew things had REALLY changed was when I saw 2 czech af Fulcrums turning above me in Bicester on their way to U.H. airshow ( '91 !?!)