Bell 412/212 Training

[chester2005]

Hi all,

I am looking for somewhere to undertake a Bell 212/412 Type rating course.

I have searched the forum but to no avail and the CAA web site only lists
4 212s and 2 412s .

Bristows web site mentions that they have experience in these types but does not list a type rating in these types.

It doesn't necessarilly have to be JAR training as I could do it through my FAA licence

If the price was right i would be willing to travel to do the course.

Any help you could give me would be appreciated

Thanks in advance:ok: :ok:

[Oogle]

Chester2005

Check your PM. ;)

[Spunk]

Try SAS Flight Academy (http://www.sasflightacademy.com/) in Stockholm / Sweden :ok:

[munchkins]

Maybe you could save yourself some $$$ by going to the Middle East and getting a rating from either Aero Gulf in Dubai, Gulf Helis in Doha or Abu Dhabi Aviation in Abu Dhabi.
Then you can spend a little time there enjoying the Arabic culture, +100* temperatures, get a few hours of offshore under your belt then BAIL OUT like hundreds have before you. Good Luck.
Munch Munch

[calli]

Does anyone know where I might be able to get a 412 IR in the UK? Has to be a CAA approved FTO...

Got the type rating already.

Thanks!

Calli

[omanman]

Does anyone know where I might be able to get a 412 IR in the UK? Has to be a CAA approved FTO...

Got the type rating already.

Thanks!

Calli

I understand that Alan Mann at mailto:[email protected] offer training on the Bell 412, though when you do it, do the 212 differences course at the samee, it should only add a week to your course.

Regards omanman

[calli]

omanman,

Thank you very much for the information, I will certainly contact him.

Regards
calli :ok:

[Winchin out]

Good morning, Does anyone know of any JAA TRO in the UK or Europe for the Bell 412/212. I need to re-validate an out of date license and quick!! any Ideas out there? short of signing up again that is!

[170']

Winchin Out

Try these folks....TRTO...But they're very busy with the commercial season and may not have a machine available. But worth a call....

http://www.agrarflug-helilift.com/

Ask for Dennis or Robert...Both fluent English speakers and nice guys...

170'

[Winchin out]

thanks v much

[vfr440]

No, unfortunately they do not. Definitely not! Try Bristow or FBH for a professional job ~ VFR

[idle stop]

I believe that Bristow have recently put the 212/412 back on their TRTO approvals; call Bristow at Aberdeen.
FBH do not currently offer a civilian course on either variant.
There is also a JAR TRTO in Croatia: Zagreb, I think.

[collector]

There is also a JAR TRTO in Croatia: Zagreb, I think


There's no JAR FCL2 TRTO in Croatia which offers B212 TR at this moment...actually there is no a helicopter TRTO nor FTO in Croatia at all :(

As for the Bristow, I have called Aberdeen about an year ago for the B212 TR and they had no helicopters available...

[Heli-Ice]

What is the name of this company you call FBH?

[Heli-Ice]

Thank you :ok:

[Heli-Ice]

I contacted FBH to find out that they only do military or government training contracts, not individuals.

Guess you have to look further.

[helipilot2]

Hi,

I am a current mil pilot with a Jaa CPL type rating on the Bell 212, looking to obtain a Jaa IR on type. Already checked the links above but with no joy.

Advice on current JAA Organisations and IRIs would be appreciated.

Regards,

HP2

[wiisp]

Hello all..

SAS academy is nowdays [B]Oxford aviaton academy[B], including 212/412 sim and looot of courses..

Fly safe..

[roger1x2003]

Hi,
There is FTO in Serbia which offers B212 TR and IR…

[helipilot2]

All,

Thanks for the replies so far and the PM,s. Just waiting for OAA to get back to me. Also tried Inaer and helisul but no joy. JAA land is a big place, there must be somewhere to get an IR on the 212.

PPruners help required.

Regards,

HP2:ugh:

[helipilot2]

Happy new year PPruners. SURELY, there is a JAA FTO offering the IR on the Bell 212/412. All contacts above have been checked with no joy. :ugh:

[N707ZS]

Have you tried Spain Inaer or FAASA.

[Heli-Ice]

Links please?

[TunaSandwich]

INAER do not have an FTO, only TRTO so unable to do an IR.

FAASA has an FTO but as far as I know do there IR courses on A109's. I would suggest getting in touch with them to see if they could do it in a 212/412 although I think it unlikely. Also might be an issue getting hold of an English speaker to give you the information, although I'm sure the IR instructors are fluent in English;)

http://www.faasa.org/index2.cfm?codigo=0400

Good luck! let us know.

[N707ZS]

FAASA run basic corses on Hughes 300s then operate Bell 212/412s for fire dutys. They have just bought a large number of AW119s.

[e-miles]

Hi all, Faasa is doing IR course on the Bell 412, no more on the A109.


Cheers

Miles

[S76driver]

The 412 sim in Dubai is JAR approved, although as of a few months ago they didnt have a resident examiner, but they did say they were getting one!

[Heli-Ice]

I guess this has been posted before but...

Would any of ou like to share where one can get a JAA approved Bell 212/412 type rating training and what should one expect to pay for it?

[maeroda]

@Heli-Ice

go and gather some info's at Oxford simulator (former SAS) in Stockolm, Sweden; now their sym is JAA approved for type rating and comes approx. 1000€/hour dry.

Otherwise if you cross the Alps southbound you will manage to spend over 2500€/flight hour if going for the real machine in Airgreen, Elilombarda, Inaer, Elitaliana.
They all have web sites.

Cheers

[Heli-Ice]

maeroda

Thank you.

[helipilot2]

Hi,

I am still trying to find a JAA FTO capable of conducting a 15 hour JAA IR package in the Bell 212/412. 10 hrs minimum in a FNPT2 and 5 hours in the aircraft incl skill test. With the implementation of EASA from 8 April, keen to get it complete in Feb/Mar before any changes have an impact.

The following have been tried;

FAASA, Proflight, Inaer (not a FTO), UK (no FTO able to)

PPruners help required.

HP2:ugh:

[GoodGrief]

Sounds like you want to convert ICAO IR to a JAR IR.
Why does it have to be a 212/412 ?

[helipilot2]

Goodgrief,

UK Mil/CAA dispensations. Already have a JAA type rating on the 212/412, which would prevent having to complete another type rating, providing I find a company to complete the IR package.

HP2

[hueyracer]

Not mentioned before?

Get in contact with Mr. Bönig from the company "Motorflug" in Baden-Baden/Germany.

He will take you to the Simulator in Stockholm....the cheapest (AFAIK) you can get.....

I´ll need to go there by myself....so maybe we can share one or two hours....

[212_Nightdipper]

Huey please check you pvt messages...Thanks

[helipilot2]

Hueyracer,

Thanks for the info, just emailed the company. I'll keep you posted.

Regards,

HP2

[mad hound]

My UK CAA ATPL (H) needs bringing up to date and thanks to the recent ruling that prevents CFS Agents from conducting the type rating assessment, I now need to seek the services of a civilian TRE in order to make the grade. As I am currently instructing on the type in the military, I may be able to gain use of an aircraft with which to conduct the check but it seems there are very few Bell - rated TREs out there. Does anyone out thereknow of a jobbing Bell 212/412 TRE who might be able to help?

[ambidextrous]

Hi, why don't you try PMing 'Troglodita' ? He's a well seasoned commercial 212/412 man who spends his time between Dubai and Nigeria. He may be able to help or recommend someone.
With fraternal greetings,
ambi:ok:

[apb]

Mad, in Spain you can do It with:

FAASA Aviación (http://www.faasa.org/en.html)

and

INAER, líder global en servicios aéreos de emergencia y mantenimiento de aeronaves (http://www.inaer.com/)

[helipilot2]

Hi MH,

Good to see you the other day :cool:. I tried to follow a similar path but for the IR, unfortunately there was only one possible company in the UK that could assist and they own your current aircraft.:ugh:

There is a couple of TRI/TRE's in EASA land that could help. Please see the PPRUNE link below:

http://www.pprune.org/rotorheads/326491-bell-412-212-training.html

Hope that's useful.

HP2

[Twinpac]

mad hound,
Do I know you? I run the military instruction. Why not call me tomorrow?
Twinpac

[baronn52]

I am JAA TRE on Bell 212/412.
Wat do you need?

[helimo]

I am looking for someone to share the simulator costs in Arlanda for my 412 renewal. So if anybody is in the same situation, PM me.