US Air Force

[Tris1601]

Sorry if this has already been asked. In order to join the US Air Force do you need to be an American citizen? Thanks in advance for any answers.

[brickhistory]

To enlist, no.

To be commissioned, yes.

[Dan Winterland]

And you need a degree to be commissioned.

[brickhistory]

Moving slightly off topic and increasing:

The USN has started a program of warrant officer pilots and NFOs. Besides the usual medical qualifications, no older than 27, et al, the program is open to E-6 to E-9 (more senior enlisted) and upon completion are awarded CWO (chief warrant officer) rank.

Requires only an Associate's degree (2 year). Open cockpits include P-3, EP-3, EA-6B, helos. No pure strike jets like F/A-18.

First ones through the training pipeline should be joining their operational squadrons soon (if not already).

I would imagine US citizenship would be a requirement for this as well.

[Wrathmonk]

Warning .... Thread Creep ....

On a previous thread didn't that wag Chief_Two tell us all at great lengths that CWO is a commissioned rank or was it all a dream (nightmare?) .... :E If this is the case then surely from the evidence below they require more than an Associate's Degree.

Or perhaps they're not commissioned ....

Chief_Two - comeback and put me right!

And before you all start it's meant as a bit of fun :ok:

[Always a Sapper]

Wrathmonk....

Thread? what thread.... you mentioned that name.... :=

Got to admit though he was the first thing I thought of as well when I read brick's post. :sad:

You dont think brickhistory could be Chief_two under cover......... :eek:

[brickhistory]

I assure you I am not the 'charming' US Army Warrant Officer.

I simply found it interesting that the USN is going with pilot/NFO warrant officers for many of their airframes and that info might be of similiar interest to the thread author.

[Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh!]

And you need a degree to be commissioned....but don't worry, because you only need an American degree

:E

[brickhistory]

...but don't worry, because you only need an American degree

to have a choice to fly somewhat more than 5 C-17s..............

[FOGII]

WO/CWOs require an associates degree of higher from an accredited institution.

CWOs are commissioned but are restricted, not unrestricted officers of the line.

S/F, FOG

[DOWN_SOUTH_AGAIN]

There are no plans for WO pilots or ECMOs to be streamed to the EA-6B Prowler; which, in turn will start the transition to the EA-18G after xmas.

[PilotEyes]

Do any US services do lateral recruiting?

[FOGII]

Pilot,

There are exchanges with at least three of the Commonwealth nations, usually 3-4 year tours.

If you want to join one of U.S. services there are ways to directly enlist. If you want a commission then you need to be a citizen of the U.S. Check with the DAO’s office in Canberra for the specifics.

S/F, FOG

[Moose Loadie]

It is true that non citizens can enlist but they can only be employed in non mobility positions. That means any form of aircrew is citizen only.

[FOGII]

Moose,

That is not a true statement.

I know of non-U.S. citizens in USMC recon and also in aircrew positions.

The lack of U.S. citizenship will limit security clearances and thus some positions/deployments.

S/F, FOG

[flown-it]

"And you need a degree to be commissioned."
The trouble with American institutions...be they military or civil...is that the almighty 4 year degree is THE THING.
I have been turned down, before talking to a human, by the dreaded HR for not having a degree.
46 years and X thousand hours of accident free aviation mean Zip

[IcemanF22]

Enlistment into the U.S. Air Force by citizens of countries other than the United States is limited to those foreign nationals who are legally residing in the United States and possess an Immigrations and Naturalization Service Alien Registration Card (INS Form I-151/551 -- Commonly known as a "Green Card"). Applicants must be between 17 and 27; meet the mental, moral, and physical standards for enlistment; and must speak, read and write English fluently. Note: The U.S. military branches cannot assist foreign nationals in obtaining admittance into the United States. Questions concerning immigration to the United States should be asked of the U.S. Embassy. Only after immigration procedures are completed and an applicant is legally residing in the United States may an application for enlistment be accepted. Furthermore, in order to be commissioned an officer in the U.S. Air Force, one must be a native-born or naturalized United States citizen.

[ZH875]

Applicants must speak, read and write English fluently.

Thus setting them apart from the American people.:E

[Flight Detent]

Ok, just a little more...is it true that the USN has both commissioned and non-commissioned Warrant Officers?

Cheers..FD..:confused:

[EOSM37]

Applicants must speak, read and write English fluently.

Don't worry if you can't, as their glorious leader George Bush once said ""You teach a child to read, and he or her will be able to pass a literacy test.''

[Chief_Two]

Ok, just a little more...is it true that the USN has both commissioned and non-commissioned Warrant Officers?

Cheers..FD..:confused:


Warrant Officers are commissioned at Chief Warrant Officer 2 in the United States Navy. There are no Warrant Officer 1s (appointed officers not non-commissioned officers) in the US Navy.

[ZH875]

Warrant Officers are commissioned at Chief Warrant Officer 2 in the United States Navy. There are no Warrant Officer 1s (appointed officers not non-commissioned officers) in the US Navy.

No-one cares.

[1.4G]

There are no Warrant Officer 1s (appointed officers not non-commissioned officers) in the US Navy.

I beg to differ. I know of at least three who are currently serving in the US Navy.:ugh:

[Chief_Two]

I beg to differ. I know of at least three who are currently serving in the US Navy

There have been no WO1s appointed in the US Navy since 1975. Royal Navy exchange WO1s fill Master Chief billets.

[1.4G]

Well, it appears you know nothing about the American Military rank system. You know even less than brick person and that is saying something.

[brickhistory]

Aaaaaaannndd off to Jet Blast we go..........................

[Two's in]

Either the standard of conduct and behaviour for Military professionals has been abandoned or there are some trolls here looking for Jetblast. Sad state of affairs when a reasoned discussion is truly a thing of the past, probably fits right in with today's societal norms.