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leee
27th Apr 2008, 06:48
Hi, i remember years ago seeing an old picture in the hiller museum at San Francisco of a helicopter flying over san fran with both pilots standing out on the skids (i think it was to show how stable the heli was). Ive been trying to find it on the web, but have had no luck.
I dont suppose anyone else can remember this picture or knows where i can find it??

Thanks Leee...

Snapsimo
27th Apr 2008, 12:15
I remember that photo. It was something to do with 'Hiller' I think. Showing how stable his rotor system was.

leee
28th Apr 2008, 07:56
That sounds about right, i have looked at thier website but cant find anything.
its a scary looking photo at couple of thousand feet with both of them climbing back along the skids from an open cockpit.
One of those "i wish i had bought a copy at the time" kind of pictures.

Anyone else have a suggestion how to find it??

Cheers Leee...

HillerBee
28th Apr 2008, 08:15
It is in the book Vertical Challenge by Jay P. Spencer

topendtorque
28th Apr 2008, 12:40
seeing as how the driver usually sits amidships in those types it sounds like a set up to me, a bit like Elvis "flying" a Bell 47J model from the stbd rear seat. I think that was in 'blue Hawii'.

FH1100 Pilot
28th Apr 2008, 15:00
Hillerbee, you should be ashamed of yourself! It was Jay P. SpenSer. With an 'S'. It's a wonderful book, and yes it does have the pic in question.

TOT, two things: 1) Hiller's were piloted from the center seat, but when dual controls were installed they were done so in the left seat like a Bell. I've seen the picture, and most assuredly the two guys are *outside* the helicopter over San Francisco Bay. Unreal. Then again, any helicopter can be made "pretty stable" at 60 mph. I would have liked to see them do that with the FH1100 at 120 mph. Not!

2) I don't know that the King flew a helicopter in 1961's "Blue Hawaii," but he played a J-model pilot when he returned to Hawaii in 1965 for "Paradise, Hawaiian Style." He and James Shigeta flew two 47J-2's (with unusual-for-the-time key-type mag switches) in the movie, and "E" most assuredly "flew" his (or the mockup anyway) from the proper front-center seat. Great helicopter shots all around, as well as astounding aerials of Hawaii, all filmed by a cameraman named Nelson Tyler, who would later go on to develop the Tyler Mount that we all know and love.

Agaricus bisporus
28th Apr 2008, 16:16
"FH1100, you should be ashamed of yourself..."

TOT, two things: 1) Hiller's were piloted

That's Hillers without the Greengrocer's apostrophe...

:=

FH1100 Pilot
28th Apr 2008, 18:04
Uhhhh....I think I meant that in the possessive case and left out a word or two. "(Stan) Hiller's (inventions) were piloted..." as opposed to Larry Bell's, which were piloted from the left.

That's me story and I'm sticking to it! Nice try though.

Skycop9
2nd May 2008, 01:57
i SAW THAT PICTURE IN AN ADD IN AN OLD ROTOR WING MAGAZINE DATED IN THE EARLY 50'S. I THINK THE HELICOPTER ONLY HAD A HALF WINSHIELD AND THEY WERE SHOWING HOW STABLE THE HELICOPTER WAS.