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Nevrekar
24th Apr 2008, 02:31
Aircraft, pilots now come cheap

Anirban Chowdhury / New Delhi April 24, 2008



The recent bankruptcy of four global airlines in the US and Hong Kong has turned out to be a bonanza for Indian private carriers looking for aircraft at low prices and experienced pilots.


Low fares, high capital costs and high pilot salaries have driven most Indian carriers into the red. The bankruptcy cases abroad, industry insiders said, are a good opportunity for them to reduce their losses with some inexpensive acquisitions.

GoAir is negotiating to acquire around 20 Airbus aircraft from these airlines at 20 per cent below listed rates. The Wadia family-promoted carrier is also looking to buy the slots for new aircraft ordered by the bankrupt carriers.

Budget carrier SpiceJet has decided to hire at least ten flight commanders from these airlines, who suddenly find themselves with no work to do.

Over the last two months, three US airlines — Skybus, Aloha and ATA — and Hong Kong-based Oasis have gone bankrupt and downed shutters on their operations. Another US carrier, Frontier, is learnt to have recently filed for bankruptcy. Most of them are no-frills low-cost carriers.

The four bankrupt carriers have close to 60 aircraft between themselves. Apart from that, Skybus Airlines had placed an order for 65 Airbus aircraft at a list price of $4.3 billion. With the airlines under liquidation, all these aircraft will be available in the market for sale at a discount.

"This will lead to excess supply in the market at a time when most international airlines have already placed their aircraft orders till 2012 and the current demand is low. Hence, these aircraft can be bought at a good bargain price," said an industry expert.

"As a part of our long-term strategy, we have been looking at expanding our current fleet to 40 aircraft,” GoAir CFO GP Gupta said, adding: “We have been waiting for the right time to explore the opportunity to acquire 20 more aircraft in addition to our existing order of 20 aircraft." The carrier currently has a fleet of six aircraft.

SpiceJet Chairman Siddhanta Sharma said this was a good opportunity to grab some experienced commanders. "We expect that 50-60 pilots might be available (from the ones which are closing down), of which we plan to induct ten. At a time when the industry is so short of experienced commanders, a good supply of these pilots from any source is always welcome," said Sharma.

Company executives said that at a time when pilot salaries are shooting through the roof, it might be possible to induct these pilots at contracts less than their usual salaries.

oldhasbeen
24th Apr 2008, 04:34
Hands up all those pilots whose salaries are going throught he roof:sad:

Left Wing
24th Apr 2008, 07:27
:ok: A+ for Capt Dhillon & his team for running the best flt ops dept in Indian aviation. Spice you guys have truely set high stds. :ok::D

Kingfisher, NACIL and other guys need to learn from you ....

NG ExPat
24th Apr 2008, 12:53
If Spice Jet is doing such a wonderful job, then please tell me why at least 6 ExPat Capts have left in the past few months? All of them long before their contract expired. I know of at least 2 more leaving in the next two weeks.

powerstall
25th Apr 2008, 05:07
heard from a reliable source that a lot of the agreed upon conditions were not honored by the said airline.... nuff said... :\

getsetgo
25th Apr 2008, 05:19
pilots leaving the company does not really reflect the company performance but it shows that the pilots have better options which suites the individual and they switch over to the place most suited to them.

with some companies shutting down in usa,
fuel price 117$ , there is more expected in near future.
considering most of the LLC when started fuel was 40$.have there bussiness module based on 40$ .
in india airlines are fighting various fronts e.g. lack of infrastruture,hightest fuel price, higher salaries ,compitition,all kind of
restrictions from govt......so on
i donot know how long they continue to absorb losses.
with all the calculations and accumulated losses + losing more in future
This cloud is building up in to storm:confused:

Elmer_mt
25th Apr 2008, 07:07
Well guys if you're thinking that pilots will come to India because of bancruptcies in the US, they would think twice, as most expats returning home would have a lot to say about India & its airlines.... And I believe they have better options elsewhere.... so good luck to those Airlines in India capitalizing or at least hoping they could hire commanders on Cheap salaries!!?? or at least they hope?????

NGFellow
25th Apr 2008, 08:24
Contract labor should not be slave labor. You can only fly 120 hrs a month , 6 days a week with 1 day off, constant roster changes, night trips followed by day trips, stand up overnights with 3 hrs of sleep (on a good day), family separation, plus contract non-compliance for a period of time. After that your fun meter is just pegged!

Most of guys here have finished careers with other airlines and at our age this kind of a work environment takes it's toll. This kind of schedule might work for a 20-30 year old, but not for a 50-60 year old.

As quickly as these airlines get new guys, others will leave. So there will never be a real stable pilot workforce expat wise. The folks here know how to hire folks but havén't a clue how to keep them. The Sesame Street word of the day should be ÄTTRITION.

NGFellow
25th Apr 2008, 08:34
SpiceJet is said to be in talks with Delhi-based low-cost carrier, IndiGo for a possible merger, reports The Business Standard. The two are expected to meet in Mumbai today. Shares of Spicejet surged 9.46 per cent to close at Rs 43.95.

Rotorhead1026
25th Apr 2008, 09:53
then please tell me why at least 6 ExPat Capts have left in the past few months? All of them long before their contract expired

heard from a reliable source that a lot of the agreed upon conditions were not honored by the said airline



Well, I'm not one of 'em who's leaving. I don't know of any gross contract abuses, either, although you probably won't make your allotted time off unless you insist on it.

The company typically hires a number of expats over a short period, out of which some decide India isn't for them and leave early for various reasons. The job a long way from home for a lot of us, and this country isn't for everyone. It all adds up to too much for some folks. There are a lot more expats coming in than going out, certainly.

Personally I'm treated very well (much better than at home). Spicejet is a good choice overall. :)