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KNIEVEL77
20th Apr 2008, 13:11
Excuse me if this has been asked before but once having passed the PPL(H) in a R22, what are the exact requirements to then be able to fly a Jet Ranger?

Many thanks.

Helipilot1982
20th Apr 2008, 13:16
Minimum 5 hrs training - but make sure the school will let you self fly hire without a safety pilot after you have completed the TRT, or you may be stuck with having to have a safety pilot for a few hours first!!

If you go for it - its a lovely machine to fly:ok:

Whirlygig
20th Apr 2008, 13:17
Minimum of 5 hours, type exam, all to be completed at a TRTO.

All this is to be found in LASORS; you can download it for free.

Cheers

Whirls

g-mady
20th Apr 2008, 13:19
What do you think a Jet ranger rating would cost at the moment (not having done the research)?

Is £2500 less VAT realistic?

MADY

Helipilot1982
20th Apr 2008, 13:25
Being a newly qualified PPL - you may want to consider about £3000-£4000 for it as you may well need more than the minimum 5 hours. If you plan for that and its costs less then HAPPY DAYS!!!

Whirlygig
20th Apr 2008, 13:30
I agree that £3-4k is more realistic. And, unless you have registered for VAT with the view to becoming a self-employed freelance pilot, prices should include VAT. And landing fees!

You also need to factor in the costs of maintaing the rating; a minimum of two hours a year bearing in mind that, as a low-hours PPL, you are unlikely to pass a skills test with only two hours a year!
Cheers

Whirls

flap flap flap
20th Apr 2008, 13:30
I wouldn't bother with a 206 rating as a newbie PPL. it will cost about £600 per hour and no school will let you hire without having many more hours on type.

You're better off doing an R44 rating (about £450 per hour), almost the same same speed as a 206 and only one less seat. And you can't hot start it. And most schools will let you hire it after getting the rating.

Flingingwings
20th Apr 2008, 17:02
FFF,
Agree fully :ok:
R44 Raven II is a much better option than a tired old 206 so long as you don't need that extra seat.

FW

4ftHover
20th Apr 2008, 17:10
K77

It took 4 weeks for my R22 licence to come through in that time i did my 44 rating.

You cant fly until your licence comes through so it made sense for me to get the 44 done.

I've been out in a jet ranger for an hour but there is no benefit for me to have the rating as the 44 is ample for my needs

rattle
20th Apr 2008, 21:38
I did 22, then 206, then 44. The 206 is fabulous to fly after training in a 22, but as a PPLH has many downsides. Cost, availability and permission. It ended up with the only 206 that was "available" was not for SFH, so always with an instructor. I did however have a great week in LA flying in a traffic 206 from 0600-0830 and 1600-1830 for 5 days. Exhausting, but great fun and good flying experience. All for $100 an hour.

My 206 lapsed, as did my 22, leaving the 44. 3 times as many passengers and not even double the cost (compared to a 22).

If I did it all again, if I wasn't going to LA, I would skip the 206, and get straight into the 44 rating.

HeliCraig
21st Apr 2008, 08:00
I should like to echo other peoples comments re availability. There is nowhere near as many available for SFH afterwards when compared with the 44; and when you factor in the other attributes (speed / size etc) for me it isn't worth the rating...

... however it is at least a turbine rating. Depending on what you want to do with your licence this may or may not be helpful.

Will be interesting to see what the arrival of the R66 in a few years does to the number of people with turbine time/ratings!

Just my twopenneth worth; and may even be overvalued at that.


Craig.